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Oh sure. He's a project big because you gotta get him eating a ton to bulk up. But I mean, how many big 5s are out there? Jordan, Adams, Drummond, Gortar, um... I'm sure there are a few others but really I'm not super worried about the maybe 7 guys out there.Originally Posted by Tinman
Plus he stretches the floor so well. But you're right, his weight is a concern. Sorta the opposite way Zion's weight is a concern.
Tinman why do you play with my Emotions by not answering this? Lol
Where does the 12 come from? Is that Sac Pick? Am I locked in those 3 spots?
Sac or Clippers whoever ends up worse. I'm kinda using those as averages. You're not locked into those spots. Tho I think #9 for the Pels is a pretty solid estimate.
Just generally speaking. We know the draft always falls a little different anyway.
Ok, #9 Okpala #12 Kevin Porter. USC #16 Darius Garland
- Vandy. Yes they're not that good, but he will START day 1 & is a deadly shooter.
I just checked and Clippers pick is 1-14 protected so it's have to be the Sac pick.
You think Garland is a day 1 starter? That's not bad at the 16 spot.
Yeah, living in N.O. You know, the LSU thing, I follow SEC. He is actually a MUCH better shooter than Morant. Don't think he's the athlete or near as impactful defensively, but Wow can he shoot.
I mean how good of a defender is Lillard? Lol. I know I probably shouldn't want a lights out shooter since our system oozes points no matter what, but darn it's been awhile since we've had a lights out shooter.
If you notice. The SEC is really a "Find your PG & wings conference". SEC really doesn't own Stretch 5's)
I object!!!! Jrue is a lights out shooter. It looks like he shooting when the lights are out. a bit ambiguous.
Lol. I suppose that's one way to describe it.
I mean we've had guys like Niko who are stretch 4s and are good shooters but I guess what I'm talking about is a guard who can beat you off the dribble / shoot over you.
I’d like culver or hunter at 9 then garland, Clark, or Fernando next. I doubt we get clippers pick because it won’t convey if in the lottery.
I like Culver also, but I'm On the Okpala Train. And I ain't gettin off. I really like that dude.
Yeah, that Fernando guy is a bit intriguing. Have to watch more film on him.
I don't think that's fair to Bol Bol.
When you look at him, does he look 220lbs? Not to me. He looks about as skinny as AD was when he came into the league, and at 7'2 you'd think for him to look the same, he'd probably be more like 230lbs. Add to that the fact that he has the sloping shoulders that generally project well as the player ages (again, check AD's shoulders in his rookie year compared to now), I would be surprised if Bol Bol could up to 240 or 250lbs by the time he's 22 or so. Remember, Bol Bol is only 19 and will still only be 19 by the time the season starts.
Yeah he's skinny, but we aren't a team that's looking to compete in year 1. We can wait a year or two for him to put on 20 or 30lbs before we're expecting to win, and his ceiling is sky high.
Basketball.
I get the positive speculation & don't disagree, because well, it's speculation. I disagree with rebuilding statement, though. Pels get Tatum, Brown, Smart the picks & 1 worthwhile FA, our window better NOT be that far down the road. if so, Jrues traded by beginning of next season.
Just cant use High 1 on Manute Bol Bol .
I wonder if the Clippers will be able to be bad enough to keep their pick. They're already at 31 wins for the season. With the only teams below them that aren't interested in tanking being Sac (pick is already gone), Lakers, and Timberwolves.
Except I suppose the only issue is there's some bad teams in the East that are ahead of the Clippers in tanking but are going to make the playoffs. I wonder if since they are sitting as the 8th seed they will try to makw the playoffs and just give up a non lottery pick.
O think they want the pick, to 1) screw Boston & 2) try to use it for AD.
I wouldn't use a top 5 pick on Bol Bol. I might not even use a top 8 pick on him. But depending on who's available, I might take him at or around 10th.
For me, the draft looks like this:
1) Zion Williamson
2) RJ Barrett
3) Ja Morant
4) Jarrett Culver
5) Bol Bol
6) Darius Garland
I know you had Garland higher, but he is one of the worst defensive players predicted to go in the top 10, and while he can definitely shoot it's not like he's a great playmaker. If I'm making a list of my top 5 guys, I want someone who can do more than one thing. Bol Bol can shoot, block shots, and defend even on the perimeter. Garland can shoot, and that's about it. He averages more turnovers than assists, for a point guard?
Yes possibly so. I just wonder how likely it is for them to get it. There's a lot of bad teams below them.
Just some advanced stats on Zion here, I'll add the source later when I can remember where I found the chart.
Zion on offense:
Transition: 18.7% of the time, 1.329ppp, 89th percentile
Spot up: 15.4% of the time, 0.867ppp, 45th percentile
Cuts: 15.1% of the time, 1.407ppp, 85th percentile
Put backs: 15.1% of the time, 1.508ppp, 96th percentile
Post up: 11.3% of the time, 1.114ppp, 93rd percentile
Isolation: 8.7% of the time, 1.147ppp, 91st percentile
P&R handler: 4.9% of the time, 1.211ppp, 98th percentile
Off screen: 3.3% of the time, 1.462ppp, 98th percentile
Miscellaneous: 4.6% of the time, 0.944ppp, 94th percentile
Not enough sample size for P&R Roll, or Hand-off to get any real reading.
Just ridiculous offensive stats.
Zion miiiiight be injured.
Duke freshman Zion Williamson will not return to tonight's game due to a knee injury, per release.
— Jon Rothstein (@JonRothstein) February 21, 2019
Nasty split. Blew out of shoe . Can't believe he doesn't have ankle & groin issue also.
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