Pelicans underwhelmed by Lakers' initial offers for Anthony Davis

[Dr. Sting]

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...-anthony-davis

ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski is reporting that the Los Angeles Lakers' initial offers have been underwhelming, including the Lakers' first offer of Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Rajon Rondo, Michael Beasley and a first-round pick, league sources told ESPN. The Lakers have limited offers to two of the franchise's top young players in every proposal, and resisted including more than a single first-round pick in offers, league sources said.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

[6warddude]

rondo and beasley lol....i see why demps sent them straight to voice mail...

[SmontySwilliams]

For real, this offer is garbage. Also, you think Dell is gonna bring back Rondo after that "you have 5 min" b.s. I loved him while was here but would never want him back after that. Him leaving is part of the math that leads to AD's departure anyway.

[Pelicanidae]

Yeah, not surprised whatsoever. The problem for the Lakers is that this isn't being underwhelmed by ''initial'' offers. It's being underwhelmed by everything LA has. They can't make better offers. Sure, they could swap out Beasley for Ingram, and that does add youth, but it's kind of like shuffling trash around instead of shuffling garbage. Kind of a distinction without a difference.

[Dr. Sting]

The concerning thing about this however, if the Lakers don't make more competitive bids, that softens the market. Everyone is going to work off of the Lakers offers to set the market as he is AD's preferred destination. If this is all they are willing to put up, then why would someone else go all in? AD is leaving and he has to go somewhere.

[Pelicanidae]

The concerning thing about this however, if the Lakers don't make more competitive bids, that softens the market. Everyone is going to work off of the Lakers offers to set the market as he is AD's preferred destination. If this is all they are willing to put up, then why would someone else go all in? AD is leaving and he has to go somewhere.

Not true at all. Even if the Lakers made no offer whatsoever, the other teams have to bid against each other. If Boston wants him, they have to beat NY. If NY wants him, they have to beat Boston. Both of them can easily beat the best offer LA can make, so LA isn't even really a factor.

[SmontySwilliams]

Not true at all. Even if the Lakers made no offer whatsoever, the other teams have to bid against each other. If Boston wants him, they have to beat NY. If NY wants him, they have to beat Boston. Both of them can easily beat the best offer LA can make, so LA isn't even really a factor.

Nor has LA ever been rally. No assets.

[6warddude]

The concerning thing about this however, if the Lakers don't make more competitive bids, that softens the market. Everyone is going to work off of the Lakers offers to set the market as he is AD's preferred destination. If this is all they are willing to put up, then why would someone else go all in? AD is leaving and he has to go somewhere.

soften the market...man we are talking about AD...teams know the smart thing to do is hold on to AD right now...some team is coming with that wow offer in the summer...we just have to wait 5 or 6 months for it...

[Tinman]

Yeah, not surprised whatsoever. The problem for the Lakers is that this isn't being underwhelmed by ''initial'' offers. It's being underwhelmed by everything LA has. They can't make better offers. Sure, they could swap out Beasley for Ingram, and that does add youth, but it's kind of like shuffling trash around instead of shuffling garbage. Kind of a distinction without a difference.

Yeah,do you kinda get the feeling that the Lakers are somewhat realizing that Punk Paul & LBJ may have Jumped the Shark or Screwed the Pooch by their unethical approach? There BEST offer was a heaping pile & to combine that w/ the snake like tactics, I think that they know that they are 100% off the Pels Trade board. Loomis may Not be an NBA guy, but he is one tough SOB in negotiating. I don't know why the Lakers should be in anymore conversations.

[Mythrol]

This is all a game between Klutch, LBJ, Magic and the Pels.

This was the Pels taking some shots at Magic and LBJ. That's the inky reason they mentioned KCP like we care about him at all. Lol.

[Pelicanidae]

Yeah,do you kinda get the feeling that the Lakers are somewhat realizing that Punk Paul & LBJ may have Jumped the Shark or Screwed the Pooch by their unethical approach? There BEST offer was a heaping pile & to combine that w/ the snake like tactics, I think that they know that they are 100% off the Pels Trade board. Loomis may Not be an NBA guy, but he is one tough SOB in negotiating. I don't know why the Lakers should be in anymore conversations.

I do get that feeling, yeah. I think that the Lakers have realised that really, they don't have a leg to stand on here. That's partially why we have so many nonsense rumours surrounding Boston and NY coming from LA sources. I'm pretty sure I saw Ramona Shelburne talking about NY and Kyrie the other day. She's never talking about NY, she lives in LA and she's an LA reporter. Just sounds like LA are trying to poison the well surrounding other offers because they realise they have nothing to work with.

[Mythrol]

Yeah,do you kinda get the feeling that the Lakers are somewhat realizing that Punk Paul & LBJ may have Jumped the Shark or Screwed the Pooch by their unethical approach? There BEST offer was a heaping pile & to combine that w/ the snake like tactics, I think that they know that they are 100% off the Pels Trade board. Loomis may Not be an NBA guy, but he is one tough SOB in negotiating. I don't know why the Lakers should be in anymore conversations.

The Lakers are still in the conversation because you keep them there to ensure Boston and New York don't back off their offers. If they start trying to lessen their deals you start talking about Lakers.

[Tinman]

The Lakers are still in the conversation because you keep them there to ensure Boston and New York don't back off their offers. If they start trying to lessen their deals you start talking about Lakers.

Well, OK.

[UNO Gracias]

This article by BSS is amazing.

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...the-narrative/

Honestly, if you read anything today, read this. The Pelicans are controlling the hell out of the National narrative surrounding the AD trade.

[SonOfNOLA]

If the Lakers offer Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac, Ball (who could be flipped to another team), two first rd picks, and take back Solomon Hill’s salary, then the Pelicans shouldn’t accept?

[Pelicanidae]

If the Lakers offer Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac, Ball, two first rd picks, and take back Solomon Hill’s salary, then the Pelicans shouldn’t accept?

Nope.

To give a better answer: not before the trade deadline. Wait until the Summer and see what Boston and NYC are willing to offer. Both of them can do better than that Lakers offer, no problem, so they should be our first priority. That Lakers offer will still be available then, and we'll be able to get competition going for the legitimate best offer.

[SonOfNOLA]

Nope.

To give a better answer: not before the trade deadline. Wait until the Summer and see what Boston and NYC are willing to offer. Both of them can do better than that Lakers offer, no problem, so they should be our first priority. That Lakers offer will still be available then, and we'll be able to get competition going for the legitimate best offer.

Boston and NY can both give the Pelicans better picks, and Tatum is better asset. How much better is Tatum and Jaylen Brown for the Pels over Kuzma and Ingram though. It’s kinda risky to wait if KD goes to NY and Kyrie decides to leave Boston and join KD. Boston would no longer be interested in trading for Davis

[Pelicanidae]

Boston and NY can both give the Pelicans better picks, and Tatum is better asset. How much better is Tatum and Jaylen Brown for the Pels over Kuzma and Ingram though. It’s kinda risky to wait if KD goes to NY and Kyrie decides to leave Boston and join KD. Boston would no longer be interested in trading for Davis

Free agency doesn't start until July, the Boston trade can be done as early as June 1st. The trade will be made before Kyrie or KD can go anywhere.

[Dr. Sting]

So the Pelicans are only talking to them because they need to do so to make sure that New York and Boston doesn't back off their offers, but it doesn't make a difference if the Lakers don't make any offer at all?

[Mythrol]

So the Pelicans are only talking to them because they need to do so to make sure that New York and Boston doesn't back off their offers, but it doesn't make a difference if the Lakers don't make any offer at all?

Lakers are always going to have an offer out because they want AD.

[Pelicanidae]

So the Pelicans are only talking to them because they need to do so to make sure that New York and Boston doesn't back off their offers, but it doesn't make a difference if the Lakers don't make any offer at all?

Not really. As long as there are two teams eager to make the trade, you can play them off against each other. The more teams there are involved, the better, because that means there's more pressure and more opportunities for your offer to be beaten, so having the Lakers offer helps provide a kind of base-line below which neither Boston nor NY can drop, but as long as there are at least two teams battling to make the trade, the leverage is still there.

[HornetGuru]

This is Anthony freaking Davis. I want Tatum, Brown, Rozier, and a first

[Pelicanidae]

This is Anthony freaking Davis. I want Tatum, Brown, Rozier, and a first

That's some pretty low expectations. Multiple firsts, at a minimum. They've got 4, they can cough up at least 2 or 3.

[SonOfNOLA]

Free agency doesn't start until July, the Boston trade can be done as early as June 1st. The trade will be made before Kyrie or KD can go anywhere.

I just hope Davis doesn’t ruin his market value to other teams by getting injured again before then or if he or his agent comes out and say he only wants to play in LAL. He would be basically viewed as a one year rental anywhere he goes. I seen his father text a reporter that he doesn’t want Davis to go to Boston cuz of how they treated Isaiah Thomas. If that narrative becomes louder, then Boston has no reason to give up assets

[KevinDavis1022]

So.......I want Zion now. Give him to me. Now. NOW CONSARN IT!!