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Do you feel like that roster can beat Golden State, Cleveland, San Antonio, or the Clippers?
I like this line-up alot but it's a solid playoff team and not a chamipionship contender. You don't trade away an asset like a lottery pick in a solid draft (Which you can acquire a potentially great player. This great player can be the AD's running mate for years and lead to a potential Championship team.) for a guy who will fill up your salary cap (while still having Asik and Ajinca taking up precious salary cap space) and net you only a playoff contenting team. You build teams around a superstar like AD to win championships and not just to be in the playoffs. Your doing deals for short team success and not long term greatness.
AD certainly is worth his and probably more.
A soon-to-be 32 year old Millsap and an above average player at the deepest position in the league that we still don't have a confident sample size on?
Thats a harder sell to me at this moment in time. Especially when you factor in the costs and risks that go along with making that trio happen. Any notable regression to Millsap after you pay up to 35 million a year for him and that could be the death blow to the AD era.
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Why can't we just add Durant!! Man can people just imagine how good we be if we could realistically land him? We would be so damn good.
I will prerequisite this with that I am an optimist to the point that my mom calls me her Thumbalina...but yeah...that front court might actually be deep and powerful enough to do it. Especially if Hield keeps it turned on, Jrue stays healthy, and either Diallo or Donuts pan out....and those thing aren't the most far fetched.
BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.
BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.
Keep in mind Millsap is a month away from being 32. Thabo is three months out from being 33.
Even if we are optimistic, Diallo is at least one, maybe two more seasons away before being a major positive factor and that puts Millsap at 33-35. And there is no realistic way to retain all those players or for the Hawks to ever accept the terms of that overly optimistic hypothetical deal.
C'mon, fam. Join me on this magical journey.
Pass so hard. Let's pay $140mil to a guy who is 4 months shy of 33 when his new contract starts. NOTHING can go wrong there, amirite?
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To play devils advocate.....do you think even the 10th pick in this draft provides a roster that beats those teams?
If the criteria of making moves is if it makes a roster better than GSW, we might as well shut it down and never make any moves. Because there is no roster we will be putting together better than them on paper.
But you would be adding a Millsap who was second team all defense just last season, and Thabo who is known as one of the better wing defenders. And you would have one hell of an advantage down low with AD and Millsap. You certainly would be a hell of a lot closer.
Bam.
And there it is. We're not talking about a 4th or better pic. This is the NBA. At 11 we are either looking at a potential guy that either never pass out or turns it on in 2021 or just a decent rotation guy...in two years.
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Well the purpose of building a team is win championships and not just make it to the playoffs. We have one of the best players in the league already (who talent wise is just as good or better than Curry and Durant) which we got through the draft. Every team should want to win championships and not just be a good team. That's why the Hawks are trading away the players they have because they can't get to the Championship with the roster that they have. When your a small market team which we are you build a championship team through the draft (Cleveland with Irving and Leborn, Golden State with Curry, Thompson, and Draymond, Clippers with Blake and Jordan, San Antonio with Duncan, Parker, Leonard, and Manu). Sure you can add pieces later but successful teams build through the draft.
Why would you add to aging players (who's skills are declining) for a potential top 10 draft pick in a very deep draft? You would get a playoff but then you end up with two old players on bad contracts that will never get you to the championship. That deal will kill the long-term goal for the minimal short term success.
Honestly, I think it goes as far as AD can take it. It would surround him with the talent to put him in the game. That's all you can ask for. From there, he needs to play like the best player on the court.
You would have four years for sure with this lineup. Hopefully you compete for four years and add some pieces along the way.
Thank God
Pelicans reportedly not interested in paying huge contract demands of Paul Millsap https://t.co/W3p5Cy4o4f pic.twitter.com/ooe3wNs3YP
— The Bird Writes (@thebirdwrites) January 7, 2017
Sources: Atlanta GM Wes Wilcox has started informing teams today that Paul Millsap is no longer on the trade market.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) January 9, 2017
Unsatisfactory trade talks, then. I mean. Give up a ton of assets, then sign him for a boatload of cash?
Who would accept that? And the finals ready teams are pretty good on bigs.
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