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I think his past medical problems mean we keep him. I think he balls out and is in the running for sixth man. He is the natural replacement for anderson's 6th man production.
That being said, I would trade him to a few different places if the offer was right.
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Tyreke Evans would certainly be in the mix if Tyreke is going to be on the team. And look, that's probably the elephant in the room in terms of this free agency period. Tyreke Evans is a guy the Pelicans have been looking to move. I don't think there is any secret about that.
He is still a viable NBA player. But the way the league has gone there is much less of a market for Tyreke Evans because he is a ball dominant guy. He likes to dribble and survey the floor and then make his move. He's not a selfish guy. He'll make a pass, often that's late in the clock. When he's made a drive or he's made a decision to penetrate and pitch. Or maybe lay off to a guy as he drives to the basket and somebody cuts. He's not a guy that's going to move the ball quickly and then get the ball back late in the clock. He's really more of a dribble it out kind of guy. And that is not in demand these days in the NBA, and it's certainly not in demand in this system.
I think there's a feeling that while Tyreke Evans can still contribute to an NBA team. If he's healthy. And again, this is three knee surgeries that we're looking at in the last year. There are going to be questions about his viability in certain systems and certainly his viability from a health standpoint. So, he's not going to be an easy guy to move. But I think the Pelicans are looking at doing that and they will continue to look at it. There is some question on if he would pass a physical at this point. And we don't know. The hope is that he's ready for training camp, but is he ready right now. Is he ready to be dealt right now? I don't know if that's the case. Otherwise the Pelicans don't have much money to play with right now.
It might be a situation where you start the season with Tyreke Evans and they're still looking to deal him after the season starts.
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guys talk like he's already off the team which i dont get. He's only got a year left and you're probably not gonna get fair value for him. Why not just keep him and see what he can do? Doesn't gentrys system strive off numerous ball handlers and he's pretty positionless. I know this system likes shooters but Iggy & Livingston were effective when shots weren't falling for the Warriors. I think he'd be great as a sixth man if he's willing to accept that
It is depressing that there is the likelihood that 2 of our highest paid players (Evans and Asik) have almost no value on the market because their style of play is not in demand in today's NBA. What does that say about Demps' vision?
Pelicans tried to "get fair value" for Eric Gordon and Ryan Anderson. Instead they got nothing.Originally Posted by AD23nEG10
To be fair Monty and Demps thought they could CHANGE Reke, just didn't happen. He said all the right things to get the contract. Asik's style of play would be in demand if he was healthy.
Couldn't you make the same argument for Holiday?
I see Tyreke being on the team to start the season. He has to prove that he's healthy before we can get anything for him.
I don't mind Tyreke, but he isn't a good fit for this team. He wants to be the man, and I respect that, but give the ball to AD. There was also the few times where it was obvious he either didn't listen to the play called or just didn't comprehend it and Gentry had to call TO to go over it again or it just looked like a total botch on the court.
There was a ton of that last year and it wasn't just Tyreke. I remember David Westley and Joel Myer used to get just as p!ssed as Gentry when this happened. That also hammers home the fact that our team didn't have the highest of bball intelligence. Reke was just a small piece of that. So drafting a guy like Buddy, and bringing in guys like Solomon Hill and Thomas will hopefully eliminate those useless timeouts.
this. hopefulyl we get something for him unlike EG and Rhino
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What exactly are we supposed to demand in return for a guy coming off his 3rd knee surgery in 13 months and only has 1 year left?
I hate it when people just say Tyreke is the problem...
This team I'll not be good next year if you take Tyreke off this team too we will be worse. Sure we picked up some great fits now we lack talent. We lost 2 double figure scorers and want to get rid if one more. I don't see Jrue being able to carry the offensive load of the team. We will have trouble scoring and creatind shots.
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Yeah alot of that was happening even after Reke was lost for the season.
Asik's style is not really in high demand for a primary center. If he were a role player, he would fit. Most teams looking for athletic 5s that can also pass. He is neither. He is a solid role player as a banger and defensive 5.
I agree, which may not be that valuable right now but next summer his deal will be worthy of a late first round pick. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping either Tyreke or Asik but would love to get value for them if we can if that means waiting till trade deadline for Tyreke or next summer for Asik. I like Jrue on this team but if he isn't going to resign then move him too.
People get way too caught up with this small ball junk. If Asik were healthy and playing well, he would be in very high demand. What has proven generally negative is a big that doesn't play defense. Ala, Kanter, Monroe, etc. Those are the guys being devalued. Asik is devalued because he is 30 and played poorly.
Same with Tyreke. All this talk about style. His value is killed because he has only one year left and had three knee surgeries. You can believe these teams with no starting PG would be jumping through hoops for a healthy Tyreke.
I disagree. Certainly those things that you mention devalue Tyreke and Asik. However, even healthy, Tyreke is no longer your prototypical guard. It has nothing at all to do with small ball. Teams (as a whole) have shied away from ball dominant guards who slow the pace. Asik would have a little more value because of his defense, but slow lumbering centers who have hands of stone and are not passers are not en vogue right now. He had almost no demand when he was a free agent. Neither would be negative value if healthy and producing, but would also not be in high demand.
If Mozgov got 16m/ yr I think it shows there's still a need for a big like Asik. Evans still has value too, but I think his lack of BBIQ is more the issue with him.
Which is a shame because Tyreke is fun to watch at times.
All I know is I saw a middle of the pack Pg get the highest contract in NBA history, and a very similar player in Evan Turner get what? $19 million a year? If Tyreke plays this year with no injuries, and does what he has done the past couple of seasons (20, 5 and 5 type of production with PER's in the top ten of his position), he's going to make $20+ million from someone.
No, he's not the prototype Pg, but there's not a lot of guys like him either. Don't fool yourself into thinking there aren't a ton of teams that would love to have what a healthy Tyreke brings on the court.
I hope those teams are interested when he is healthy. I do not see a future in NOLA.
Like with Ryan Anderson, I agree. We have Jrue and Buddy, so there is no chance we will pay Tyreke what it would take to keep him. We should trade him at first opportunity.
And I think that's what they're trying to do. Just hard to trade a guy that's coming off 3 knee surgeries, and known as a ball-dominant guard that's not the best jump shooter. While he has improved... I think most teams will let him shoot jumpers all day.
In 25 games last year Tyreke shot 39% from beyond the arc so he has improved vastly in a short span. He can get to the rim at will but he just does not fit our system. However, some team will take a gamble on him because he is on an expiring contract (Derrick Rose) and it would be a 1yr gamble. I think the writing is on the wall that he is gone because of our latest additions. For people talking that we will struggle to score, think again... We are forming a team with players who know there roles. Last year we got points but they weren't cohesive. This year AD will get his touches, Jrue becomes more aggressive and Buddy will do what we drafted him to do followed by a great supporting cast. I think after the signing period we are trading a combo of either Tyreke, Asik or Ajincia for another center. (Monroe, Vucevic, Plumlee...)
pg Jrue, Galloway,Frazier(Pending)
sg Heild, Moore
sf Hill, Q Pond
pf Davis,??? Cunningham
C Asik, Ajincia
A team in the East that should be a playoff team and also wants to have cap space for next year, would consider trading for Tyreke.
That's why I keep looking at the Celtics.
They could bench him until he's 100%, and save him for the 2nd half of the season if necessary. That team doesn't want to commit to long term salary with any of the guys still on the market, and doesn't have openings on the roster to sign a bunch of guys to smaller one year deals. Tyreke fits perfectly financially, and potentially as another scorer off the bench.
Best case scenario is he's ready at the beginning of the season and has a 6th Man of the Year type campaign for a team that could be the 2nd seed in the East.
People are eyeing Sullivan in a S/T, and he'd be exactly the kind of player the Pelicans have gone after this offseason.
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