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  1. #901
    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans View Post
    If we get the 1st pick and Lakers get the 4th pick, Philly get the 3rd. Do we trade back with Philly for the 3rd and 4th or take Simmons?
    I know what I would do... just gauging how big of a drop off is expected after pick 2.
    HECK no, I would not trade the 2nd pick for the 3rd and 4th. Simmons and Ingram are another level above everyone else. Now if we had the 1st pick and someone offered the 2nd and 3rd for it I'd do it and grab Ingram and Hield.

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    First I doubt they would give the 3rd and 4th pick but you never know. Second the only player I want is Simmons, everyone else I can take em or leave em, so I keep the pick and take Simmons. Now 2, I would think about trading down (barring Ingram going 1st) but have to be really really good to pass on Ingram. I think teams would get in a bidding war for the 2 spot so could make it interesting. 3rd pick I don't think you get near the trade value unless a team falls in love with someone and has picks to throw away (cough cough Boston).

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    You would be absolutely crazy to trade the 2nd pick to move back for a couple picks. We need a super star and Ingram is the perfect fit. How can you trade the chance at getting a 6'10 2 way stud at the biggest position of need on your team for years? Sure it's possible you land 2 stars but you have a way better chance taking a talent like Ingram. The kid is way under rated around here by some and it just says to me you have watched very little of him. He is arguably a better fit then Simmons but it's just hard to pass up on what Simmons could be with a shot. Only way I am not picking Ingram is if some teams come offering me Paul George and just a few other young guys I would take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianAngel25 View Post
    You would be absolutely crazy to trade the 2nd pick to move back for a couple picks. We need a super star and Ingram is the perfect fit. How can you trade the chance at getting a 6'10 2 way stud at the biggest position of need on your team for years? Sure it's possible you land 2 stars but you have a way better chance taking a talent like Ingram. The kid is way under rated around here by some and it just says to me you have watched very little of him. He is arguably a better fit then Simmons but it's just hard to pass up on what Simmons could be with a shot. Only way I am not picking Ingram is if some teams come offering me Paul George and just a few other young guys I would take.
    I gave no judgement on Ingram. I just asked a question. I think Ingram will be a beast no doubt. But my thinking is does he fit our timeline? We're not a rebuilding team, we're a team that expected to be in the playoffs but had an injury riddled season. That is the only reason we are in the position we are in. Ingram will take at least 3 years to be a star, and at least 5 to 6 years to have the maturity to compete in deep playoff runs as a 1 or 2 option. Can we afford to wait that long with AD who is ready to win now? Just a thought.

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    So reading draft express we have the 6th (lottery) 38th and 39th pick. Is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bustahyndes View Post
    So reading draft express we have the 6th (lottery) 38th and 39th pick. Is that right?
    38th & 39th will not be confirmed until tomorrow.

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    ... and 6th not until the draft lottery (May 17th)

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    I just watched some Timothe Luwawu tape and that kid can ball, if we miss out on simmons, ingram, hield, brown, dunn, murray I wouldnt mind our draft going with Luwawu in the 1st and AJ Hammons and Wayne Seldon in the 2nd round.

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    Guru doesn't like Bender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawel View Post
    Guru doesn't like Bender?


    Surely Boston will grab Bender, they need a star big man.
    Last edited by Lelicans; 04-13-2016 at 04:02 AM.

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    With 6th pick - I want someone from group Ingram, Simmoms, Murray, Hield, Dunn. In that order - hopefully someone will take Brown
    With 7th pick - I will trade down (preferred) - of course if any of 5 is available I will pick him.
    With 1-2 pick I may take any of two. Ingram is 50,1% to 49,9% in my board (I will never trade this pick)
    With 3rd pick I will check what can I get. But I will choose Bender.

    3rd pick plus Evans for Jimmy Butler and 14th pick? Probably yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelicans View Post


    Surely Boston will grab Bender, they need a star big man.
    BOS needs a star, dont need young prospect not named Simmons/Ingram.
    They will trade it along with any of 1 million other picks for somebody...

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    Which of prospects can get to the free throw line?
    We need wings who can get cheap points.

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    1. Ingram
    2. Simmons
    3. J. Murray
    4. Heild
    5. Dunn
    6. Valentine
    7. Brown
    8. Bender
    9. Luwawu
    10. Prince

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    1. Ingram
    2. Simmons
    3. J. Murray
    4. Heild
    5. Dunn
    6. Valentine
    7. Brown
    8. Bender
    9. Luwawu
    10. Prince
    Quite a few mocks have Brown going at 3 or 4.

    I'd be surprised if he slips past PHX
    Last edited by Lelicans; 04-13-2016 at 07:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelicans View Post
    Quite a few mocks have Brown going at 3 or 4.

    I'd be surprised if he slips past PHX
    He has no NBA skill outside of his athleticism and size... which in the NBA wont be as extraordinary. I do actually like him as a college player, just cant see his game translating. Even if shooting is one of the more commonly picked up skills. Having said that, if he does go above us it means someone slips... Im happy with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpo View Post
    He has no NBA skill outside of his athleticism and size... which in the NBA wont be as extraordinary. I do actually like him as a college player, just cant see his game translating. Even if shooting is one of the more commonly picked up skills. Having said that, if he does go above us it means someone slips... Im happy with that
    Is he not a good shooter?

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    this how will lottery go (assuming no changes in draft)
    1. Ingram PHI
    2. Simmons LAL
    3. Bender BOS
    4. Brown PHX
    5. Hield MIN
    6. Murray NOP
    7. Dunn

    it all depends on the lottery. PHX has Booker, Bledsoe and Knight. Don't need guard.
    Minny needs PF and to decide what with LaVine (PG/SG) and what with Rubio...

    so many possibilities...

    My board is (not draft order but who I want in order):
    Ingram, Simmons, Bender, Murray, Hield, Dunn, Sabonis, Valentine, Luwawu, Prince, Jackson, Ulis

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    I can see a blockbuster trade happening draft night.

    Boston has too many assets and they aren't going to keep all those rookies.

    Pretty sure they'll be getting Boogie. (and passing on Bender)

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    do you all think Murray is good enough defensively to pick here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawel View Post
    Guru doesn't like Bender?
    i dont dislike him, it's just I don't want to draft another PF. AD wants to be a 4, and id rather keep him happy.

  22. #922
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    do you all think Murray is good enough defensively to pick here?
    i've been asking myself the same question.

  23. #923
    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    i dont dislike him, it's just I don't want to draft another PF. AD wants to be a 4, and id rather keep him happy.
    AD should do what's best for the team. That said, Bender/AD should make up for what we loss in AD/Noel.

    And I just ran another draft simulation on ESPN and here were the first try results.

    1. NO - Simmons
    2. MIN - Ingram
    3. LAL - Bender
    4. PHI - Murray
    5. BOS - Ellenson
    6. PHX - Brown
    7. DEN - Hield
    8. SAC - Dunn
    9. TOR - Chriss
    10. MIL - Poeltl
    11. ORL - Rabb
    12. PHX - Kormaz
    13. UTAH - Valentine
    14. CHI - Ulis

    Sidenote: If the NBA lottery is truly rigged, what would be the top 3 results--based on what the NBA would prefer?
    Last edited by 704Pelicanfan; 04-13-2016 at 11:23 AM.

  24. #924
    Quote Originally Posted by pawel View Post
    this how will lottery go (assuming no changes in draft)
    1. Ingram PHI
    2. Simmons LAL
    3. Bender BOS
    4. Brown PHX
    5. Hield MIN
    6. Murray NOP
    7. Dunn

    it all depends on the lottery. PHX has Booker, Bledsoe and Knight. Don't need guard.
    Minny needs PF and to decide what with LaVine (PG/SG) and what with Rubio...

    so many possibilities...

    My board is (not draft order but who I want in order):
    Ingram, Simmons, Bender, Murray, Hield, Dunn, Sabonis, Valentine, Luwawu, Prince, Jackson, Ulis
    If that's the case, then we will trade Booker or our pick. I cant see Benson and front office waiting for a young rookie to blossum. They are more in the impatient win now mode.
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  25. #925
    Quote Originally Posted by Caffeinedisastr View Post
    I can see a blockbuster trade happening draft night.

    Boston has too many assets and they aren't going to keep all those rookies.

    Pretty sure they'll be getting Boogie. (and passing on Bender)
    Don't see it happening. Especially with Kings front office siding with Boogie and firing Karl. They are fully "all in" on DMC

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