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Thread: Game Day Thread! Pelicans vs Grizzlies 3/07/15

  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by speedyG View Post
    What? He has been praised all season as a 3 and D guy. The Bucks have nobody that can score the ball without Knight, naturally his usage rate is going to go up.
    You keep acting like I am dissing the man. He is doing GREAT.

    But I don't want to pay a guy big money to stand in the corner on this team and wait for his opportunity. And with Reke, Jrue, Gordon, Ryno, AD, etc. here, that is all a guy is gonna do. Unless we move 2 or more of those guys, we just don't have the shots for anyone else.

    Get rid of Gordon and Reke or Gordon and Anderson, and then I would love Middleton. Until that day, though, I wouldn't spend big money on a guy who scores.
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  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by RENFO View Post
    Not buying the 'earn refs' respect' line. Call the fouls if they're fouls.
    I am not saying it is how it should be. Just saying it is how the league works.

  3. #203
    Just watched the game. What a hot dam win. Thes types of wins are make the losses to the inferior teams that much more nut crunching. A little consistency is all this team needs and we could easily be a top 5 seed in the west.

  4. #204
    Grizzlies shot 29 fts to our 13 on our home court. I'm sorry but that ish is ridiculous. Asik had 3 tos and hardly ever gets solo touches lol. Guy is goofy as hell. Ajinca has surprised me big time by the progress he has made. Def been a pleasant surprise for everyone for sure. Id rather has Ajinca at this point over Asik. Especially if Asik costs any more than 7-8m per year.
    Last edited by kclaboy504; 03-08-2015 at 12:56 AM.

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Not directed at you, just in general.

    This narrative bothers me so much. Yes, we lost to some this year. But that 6-1 streak featured 5 sub .500 teams and another one who was/is playing terrible in Toronto.

    We are an inconsistent team - as most young teams are. It's not like we beat all good teams and lose all our games to bad ones. Yet, it seems like the funny, snarky thing to say. I read it, literally, 50-100 times after any loss to a bad team.

    This is an inconsistent team - partly because of injuries, partly because of youth, and partly because of lack of continuity. I don't think who we play against has nearly as much to do with the inconsistency as those three things.

    Okay, I am done. Sorry.

    Pels win!!
    We are 18-11 against sub .500 teams. Improving that record to 23-6 or even 24-5 and we are fighting for that 6-7 seed instead of being on the outside looking in right now. I think we will see a really nice jump from this team next year. We are In a brutal division. We are still growing for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    We are 18-11 against sub .500 teams. Improving that record to 23-6 or even 24-5 and we are fighting for that 6-7 seed instead of being on the outside looking in right now. I think we will see a really nice jump from this team next year. We are In a brutal division. We are still growing for sure.
    If you use that logic then you have to do the reverse. By most objective measures we rank somewhere between 14th to 16th overall in the league. Weve beaten plenty of teams who are flat out better than us in a vacuum. Should we count how many of those games we should NOT have won? This most recent Memphis game comes to mind, as does thw 12 pt 4th Qtr comeback against the Maple Leafs, I mean the Drakes.

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    I missed the game but when I stole a score watch under the table at the restaurant and we were down 18...I knew it would make us play harder and come back. Great win.

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  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Yeah. No thoughts.

    Those guys have fun over there. It's not a real board IMO. Kind of a bunch of people blowing off steam, trying to be edgy or funny IMO. Ethically, I could never go over there because of how often they are homophobic, racist, sexist, etc. Even if its just a joke, I can't support that kind of stuff.

    But people need a place like that I suppose. Just a shame that there are 2-3 solid posters over there who waste their time trying to talk ball with a bunch of psychos.

    To each their own.
    Lmao. You are full of crap. You took a shot first and then want to cry about it when people swing back. This board is no better than Pelicans Talk, and I would like to see an example of the racist, homophobic, sexist things you claim are frequently said over there. Let me guess that was just your typical BS that you like spew. Get off your high horse.

  10. #210
    Quote Originally Posted by studentofthegam View Post
    Lmao. You are full of crap. You took a shot first and then want to cry about it when people swing back. This board is no better than Pelicans Talk, and I would like to see an example of the racist, homophobic, sexist things you claim are frequently said over there. Let me guess that was just your typical BS that you like spew. Get off your high horse.
    And you seem like you would do fine over there, so why waste your time here?

  11. #211
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    And you seem like you would do fine over there, so why waste your time here?
    I post on both sites. Both have their pros and cons but your childish attacks really is not a good look for someone who wants to be taken seriously as a blogger. And I am still waiting for some examples. That is a strong claim to make especially when you have nothing to back it up with

  12. #212
    Quote Originally Posted by DefensiveMind View Post
    If you use that logic then you have to do the reverse. By most objective measures we rank somewhere between 14th to 16th overall in the league. Weve beaten plenty of teams who are flat out better than us in a vacuum. Should we count how many of those games we should NOT have won? This most recent Memphis game comes to mind, as does thw 12 pt 4th Qtr comeback against the Maple Leafs, I mean the Drakes.
    You totally missed my point in the post. If you want to play that game tho. We can play it. We are 7-12 in games against far more talented teams. So, no it really wouldn't work like that. We always play Memphis tough every year. Okc without durant doesn't count. Dallas, Spurs, clippers, Hawks, cavs, rockets, and the Blazers would all fall under the teams in that category. So, yea we aren't doing great against them. Anyways my point was we are actually doing a pretty good job of handling the sub .500 teams overall this year. If we could improve that mark NEXT YEAR to somewhere around 23-6 or 24-5 we could be in much better playoff position.
    Last edited by kclaboy504; 03-08-2015 at 11:50 AM.

  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by studentofthegam View Post
    I post on both sites. Both have their pros and cons but your childish attacks really is not a good look for someone who wants to be taken seriously as a blogger. And I am still waiting for some examples. That is a strong claim to make especially when you have nothing to back it up with
    Go search the 'f' word on that site (slang for a homosexual). 'B' word or 'P' word (ones that refer to women or acting like a woman) on that site. You will get no less than hundreds of hits. It is the sole reason I would never post over there. Like I said, I get it. It's boys being boys. Locker room talk, etc. I even said that I think it is needed as an outlet.

    But to me, those are words that are offensive to people and I could never personally support a site that doesn't condemn that type of talk. Sorry it gets you upset, but it is an objective fact about that board. That language is used there and the mindset is promoted, even if unintentionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    I do not fully agree with this, but I do think that you need to understand some of the more subtle things about the game to appreciate Asik. Casual fans do not spend one second thinking about effectiveness of a guys picks, for instance.
    But,not all that you thread w/ are "Casual fans". Your definition of a casual fan is strictly perception on your part.
    You thread as though, compared to you, everyone is a casual fan.
    Whenever there is an actual thread on the subtleties of the game, it dies quickly.
    Frankly, x's and o's of the game, I find much more interesting, than say, Is Westbrook awesome or not.. Does Tyreke have a shoe IQ.Is New Orleans too small of a city for OMER. Is poor grammar/typing a criminal offense.
    We vent on this board & basically have no clue of the intricacies of locker room dynamics,certain nagging injuries,chemistry between certain players, et al. Understanding on court subtleties does indeed add immediate credence to one's position,but doesn't encompass everything we dont/cant know about in the practice facility.
    I sit (Season Tickets) next to an attorney from Chicago at the games. He's here 15 yrs now,but still Bulls over Pelicans.
    We talked about the Asik dynamic & Noah in Chicago.He said Noah gets torched for being basically a clutz on the offensive end! It's just a normalcy that people accentuate the offensive side & have blinkers on, when it comes to defense. when you dont see Asik cerebrally prodding players, i.e. leaning, bumping, holding the back of their jerseys. Never changing temperment, never raising his voice, getting Technicals. Gets hacked over and over, takes a beating, guarding the best in the league 75% of the nights.
    So, MM, if you want to have a discussion about x's & o's, w/out the preconceived notion that you already know more than the person your threading with. Sounds like a winner.
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  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Go search the 'f' word on that site (slang for a homosexual). 'B' word or 'P' word (ones that refer to women or acting like a woman) on that site. You will get no less than hundreds of hits. It is the sole reason I would never post over there. Like I said, I get it. It's boys being boys. Locker room talk, etc. I even said that I think it is needed as an outlet.

    But to me, those are words that are offensive to people and I could never personally support a site that doesn't condemn that type of talk. Sorry it gets you upset, but it is an objective fact about that board. That language is used there and the mindset is promoted, even if unintentionally.
    They have a language filter setting on the site for people who are as sensitive as you. And I would not have a problem with what you said had you simply stated you didn't agree with the language used on the site. You went much further and started with your usual I am better than everyone attitude even to the point where you referred to the majority of the site as psychotic (seems like you are the one who is upset, not me.)

  16. #216
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    You keep acting like I am dissing the man. He is doing GREAT.

    But I don't want to pay a guy big money to stand in the corner on this team and wait for his opportunity. And with Reke, Jrue, Gordon, Ryno, AD, etc. here, that is all a guy is gonna do. Unless we move 2 or more of those guys, we just don't have the shots for anyone else.

    Get rid of Gordon and Reke or Gordon and Anderson, and then I would love Middleton. Until that day, though, I wouldn't spend big money on a guy who scores.
    I get if you don't want to pay him, but describing him as a scorer who cant impact the game without the ball, and then saying Danny Green is that guy, no.

    Middleton is doing what Green is only better, younger, and without the Spurs system.

  17. #217
    Quote Originally Posted by kclaboy504 View Post
    We are 18-11 against sub .500 teams. Improving that record to 23-6 or even 24-5 and we are fighting for that 6-7 seed instead of being on the outside looking in right now. I think we will see a really nice jump from this team next year. We are In a brutal division. We are still growing for sure.
    Well that record against sub .500 took a dive as soon as 2015 hit. They are 9-9 against sub .500 since January and 9-4 against the rest.

    Blame it on injuries, youth, coaching. Perhaps it's all three.

  18. #218
    Quote Originally Posted by studentofthegam View Post
    They have a language filter setting on the site for people who are as sensitive as you. And I would not have a problem with what you said had you simply stated you didn't agree with the language used on the site. You went much further and started with your usual I am better than everyone attitude even to the point where you referred to the majority of the site as psychotic (seems like you are the one who is upset, not me.)
    It is not that it offends me. It is that it promotes this idea that minorities, women, homosexuals, etc. are inferior. And before you say the common response of "That's not their intention," please know that intention means nothing in those matters.

    I do not think I am better than them, and never said so. In fact, I have never said I am better than anybody. That is something that insecure people tend to read from my words. Their interpretation. I simply said that I could not support a site like that too. And if you care about women, homosexuals, minorities, etc. then you shouldn't either until they institute new policies. But it is a free country and of course you can do what you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    It is not that it offends me. It is that it promotes this idea that minorities, women, homosexuals, etc. are inferior. And before you say the common response of "That's not their intention," please know that intention means nothing in those matters.

    I do not think I am better than them, and never said so. In fact, I have never said I am better than anybody. That is something that insecure people tend to read from my words. Their interpretation. I simply said that I could not support a site like that too. And if you care about women, homosexuals, minorities, etc. then you shouldn't either until they institute new policies. But it is a free country and of course you can do what you wish.
    You dont have to SAY it! Perception is reality!

  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinman View Post
    You dont have to SAY it! Perception is reality!
    And yet there are dozens to hundreds who interact with me on here or Twitter that do not feel like I think I am better than them. To me, it says more about the agent who feels this way than the one who is the supposed cause of this feeling.

    I am 6'5". People can't make me "feel short", even taller people. Because I am secure in my height. I don't think about who I am in relation to others. Similarly, people who are secure in their intelligence never tell me that I am trying to make them feel dumb or inferior to me.

    I have strong opinions, back them up, and try to engage in high end conversations where I ask others to do the same. If you don't like it, don't engage with me. Why is that so hard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    It is not that it offends me. It is that it promotes this idea that minorities, women, homosexuals, etc. are inferior. And before you say the common response of "That's not their intention," please know that intention means nothing in those matters.

    I do not think I am better than them, and never said so. In fact, I have never said I am better than anybody. That is something that insecure people tend to read from my words. Their interpretation. I simply said that I could not support a site like that too. And if you care about women, homosexuals, minorities, etc. then you shouldn't either until they institute new policies. But it is a free country and of course you can do what you wish.
    Please stop with the backtracking and quit trying to deny what you said when it is posted in this very thread. You insulted the intelligence and content of the site and have even gone as far as labeling the majority of the message board as physcotic. In fact, your original attack on the site via Twitter had nothing to do with the language used, seems like that is just an excuse you have latched on to.

  23. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Tinman View Post
    You dont have to SAY it! Perception is reality!
    Yeah I suppose next time he calls me a psycho I should take that as he thinks we are equals.

  24. #224
    Let's get back to the Pels. For those who don't like me, I couldn't care less. Just avoid me - it's not that hard.

    As for the Pels, great win last night. Huge 4 game stretch for the team coming up with a brutal stretch looming after that. Also, fully expecting some real news about Ryno and Jrue by the end of this upcoming week.

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    Sorry I brought the site up. Did not know we had tigerdropping lowlifes on this forum.

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