I do not want Garcia, his PER is 3 he is worse then Freddette. I wish everyone would stop trying to get everyone elses garbage. SMH
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I do not want Garcia, his PER is 3 he is worse then Freddette. I wish everyone would stop trying to get everyone elses garbage. SMH
The rockets get our pick if we fall between 4-19. Which if we finish as an 8 seed I think it goes to them. If we finish much higher the trade moves back another year and we keep the pick. That's what makes it hard to trade a first cause it might not be for a few years potentially.
Feel free to go look at those teams schedules and tell me how we come out on top of them. We beat the Thunder with a limited Durant and with both of their stars getting back from injury. They will be a different beast in a couple weeks. They will be a different beast when we play them again on Sunday on the end of our back to back.
Portland is currently 20-6. I don't know how you can argue they are a worse team then us. Or how they will drop enough games, barring injury, for us to not only catch them but to surpass them.
Green is a utility player. He is good at almost everything but rebounding and not great at anything. We have too many specialists on our team. We need a player that can open our offense consistently and play good defense. He is three and D with a little lagniappe in that he can get to the rim if the matchup is right.
So now you answer why don't you like him?
I don't watch Boston unless they play the Pelicans but he has size and can shoot. His percentage may not be awesome but I'm assuming he can shoot well enough to keep teams honest when he is on the wing (while Reke is on the floor) and more athletic than Babbit for fast breaks. It's the same reason I'd want Wilson Chandler, more rotation options.
And Evans off the bench? How does that closing squad work? Jrue, Evans, Green, Davis and Ryno? It would be a defensive joke and I think Davis would become an odd man out with Green and Evans tendency to dominate the ball in the fourth. But I don't think Evans will even entertain going back to that role.
Have you seen our defense now. He has to be better than Babbit who is starting.
Also Green or Chandler are versatile enough to play SG if needed, Babbit or Cunningham can't do that.
He is an ultra high usage guy who is a mediocre three point shooter(32%). Only 31% catch and shoot % despite playing with an elite set-up guy in Rondo. He's a below average defender, he's not a great rebounder,(average a little under 1.5 rebounds every 10 minutes) he's inconsistent(though gotten better), he arguably lacks court vision, isn't a good distributor, and has questionable BBIQ. The teams also plays better with him off the court(that has been argued because he plays minutes with their abysmal bench so this one may not be fair).
Nothing about him screams 3 and D. He is a slasher with questionable IQ that should be a better defender then he is given his size and lateral quickness. He is like Tyreke Evans 2.0 with a slightly better jumper. and no real passing skills. Except he actually has legitimate SF size. Why should we want to give up a first for him and consider him the final piece to our longterm starting roster?
I would rather save the first round pick for a better offer or go after someone like Chandler or Green in FA and keep the pick.
Last edited by N.O.Bronco; 12-19-2014 at 07:50 PM.
First off. Someone mentioned a trade that involved sending Gordon to the Hornets Lance to the celtics and green to us. So it's not beyond the realm of possibility to imagine a three team trade that sends Gordon elsewhere and the first that Boston is looking for. Which is something that is far more imaginable. Never did a suggest we send celtics Gordon straight up for Green. I just argued that if you include Gordon in the trade somehow you pretty much have to pull the trigger.
Second to use some logic for a second.
There is no way that we trade for green without sending out some kind of salary. It was already confirmed that tyreke was not going anywhere after shutting down a few inquiries about him. And if Dell trades young Reke for a much older Green he deserves to be fired. No way we trade Jrue or asik for him, so the only plausible way to get the salaries to match with out getting rid of our entire bench is sending out Ryno or Gordon. So take your pick which one you want to send away.
I think he would be a better fit right now than gordon. I think we as fans want a traditional SF but there is t many good ones. There are a lot combo players around that size but not many are available.
We ain't trading for anyone. Anyone substantial anyway.
Anderson and Rvers
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Jeff Green, Brandon Bass and Phil Pressey.
If they wanna blow it up and get young guys playing time; might as well send Bass back home. We'd be losing a PF anyway in the deal
we get a starting five and depth, while losing The Marksman
I doubt anyone thought a team would take on the Ariza and Okafor contracts, let alone both of them simultaneously...so while I agree that Gordon's contract is up there with the worst of the league, its not necessarily impossible that we find a third team willing to take on the atrocity that is Gordon's contract. It is however, highly, highly highly unlikely UNLESS we give up significant value in exchange. Chances are nothing gets done until Gordon opts out (which is never happening) or his contract expires. Perhaps next year we'll have the ability move Gordon to another team since he'll be an expiring then, but anyone who sees Gordon's contract as a trade chip at this point of time is cray cray.
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Gordons deal has 1 year after this. Not every team is looking to spend big next year and needs the cap space, his trade value is negative but he isn't immovable
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Because of how weak the east is, if we make the playoffs we will keep our pick.
Gordon for green isnt too far fetched and here is why. If u are a rebuilding team it gives u a year to tank and get a good draft pick and will free up 16 million in cap the same year durant will be a free agent. Boston is about to go total rebuild mode
If a late first is all I have to give up to clear 15 million on my cap for next year. I'm in. I've always given EG a chance and I'll root for him as long is he is on the team, but I'm ready to move on. Green or Chandler or any decent SF is icing in the cake.
That's just silly. Gordon for Green straight up is just about as far fetched as you can get. Green is a B- level asset. They can get far better offers than Gordon for Green. Worst case if they wanted to tank they could just GIVE Green away and not have to have a horrible contract in Gordon.
0% chance a Gordon for Green straight up trade ever happens.
Gordon and a 1st for Green and Bass makes so much sense. The Celtics save $3M this season and get a pick. Green absolutely is not down with the tank and is frustrated with losing. They're going to have to move him soon and nobody is giving them an expiring AND a pick for him.
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