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Thread: Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

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    Given how desperate Houston is to dump Asik it just shows how awful Demps is at negotiating from a position of strength.

    I don't mind the moves he makes but he pays 15 percent more than he should on each one and it adds up

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLLakers View Post
    Given how desperate Houston is to dump Asik it just shows how awful Demps is at negotiating from a position of strength.

    I don't mind the moves he makes but he pays 15 percent more than he should on each one and it adds up
    Yeah, clearly now that we know all the details, this criticism is warranted. Remind me, what exactly did we give up to get Asik?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLLakers View Post
    Given how desperate Houston is to dump Asik it just shows how awful Demps is at negotiating from a position of strength.

    I don't mind the moves he makes but he pays 15 percent more than he should on each one and it adds up
    I'm sure there were multiple offers. Anytime there's a bidding war, the price goes up. If Asik were still on the market today, I bet there would still be a bidding war; maybe even a larger one since teams striking out on FAs would have increased interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greewe View Post
    I'm sure there were multiple offers. Anytime there's a bidding war, the price goes up. If Asik were still on the market today, I bet there would still be a bidding war; maybe even a larger one since teams striking out on FAs would have increased interest.
    Don't know how true this is. It not like Asik hasn't been available for some time before this trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Don't know how true this is. It not like Asik hasn't been available for some time before this trade.
    He has, but the asking price was too steep before. I'm sure we've been interested him for some time as well, but we waited until Houston was desperate to make the move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLLakers View Post
    Given how desperate Houston is to dump Asik it just shows how awful Demps is at negotiating from a position of strength.

    I don't mind the moves he makes but he pays 15 percent more than he should on each one and it adds up

    Morey wouldn't trade Asik within the division unless we offered the best deal. He could dump Asik somewhere else, but we are likely the only team offering a decent asset. We have to offer this asset or we don't get him.

    This is really simple if you just think about it for a second before lashing out at Demps. I love the armchair GM's that think they would be playing hardball with Daryl Morey and his ilk and making big moves. You would get laughed out of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greewe View Post
    He has, but the asking price was too steep before. I'm sure we've been interested him for some time as well, but we waited until Houston was desperate to make the move.
    Supposedly Houston was trying to unload him last year for a 1st and could not find any takers. Some thought that asking price was too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Supposedly Houston was trying to unload him last year for a 1st and could not find any takers. Some thought that asking price was too high.
    It was two firsts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOLLakers View Post
    Given how desperate Houston is to dump Asik it just shows how awful Demps is at negotiating from a position of strength.

    totally agree. houston absolutely had to trade this guy, yet it seems like they had the leverage in this trade
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoutWithoutClout View Post
    totally agree. houston absolutely had to trade this guy, yet it seems like they had the leverage in this trade
    You realize they only get the pick if it's within 4-19? That pick could end up being meaningless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoutWithoutClout View Post
    totally agree. houston absolutely had to trade this guy, yet it seems like they had the leverage in this trade
    All it takes is for one other team to also be offering something of value to the Rockets for Asik, for Dell to have to up his offer. Hard to ever say he overpaid unless we know what the market was.

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    Pelicans are going to regret trading another first round pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelman View Post
    Pelicans are going to regret trading another first round pick
    Houston is going to regret trading a Dwight-stopper to an inter-divisional opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoutWithoutClout View Post
    totally agree. houston absolutely had to trade this guy, yet it seems like they had the leverage in this trade
    I think people are underestimating our level of desperation. We needed Asik about as much as Houston needed to trade Asik. Again I hate building the team the way Demps has done so, but with the moves the last off-season we have to win sooner(like next year) than later.

    The picks loses value because if healthy we'll are going to be in the playoff hunt. Rushing the rebuild mistake IMO. Gambling on Asik giving the rushed rebuild I'm more OK with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coughka View Post
    Houston is going to regret trading a Dwight-stopper to an inter-divisional opponent.
    This.

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    If this Cleveland deal works that we just send Gee to Houston, then no way Dell had the trade parameters worked out more than a week ago. He could not have seen this chip happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zombiewoof View Post
    Don't sell yourself short, man, you're insufferable now.
    I know right, whenever i feel down and need an boost of depression i always come to pelicansreport

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post

    Trade, huh? Let's see what develops.

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    I don't know about you but

    If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you son
    I got 99 problems but Asik ain't one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout View Post
    I don't know about you but

    If you're having girl problems I feel bad for you son
    I got 99 problems but Asik ain't one
    hit me

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post
    hit me

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