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Thread: Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post
    June 26, 2014 Updates

    Brian Windhorst: More dominos will fall in Asik-to-Pelicans deal. N.O. may move Austin Rivers to create cap space. One option: dad Doc owns trade exception Twitter @WindhorstESPN
    - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors/tag/new_....CMXM9qfJ.dpuf

    If we move Rivers, are we saying that Dell/Monty are comfortable with Roberts and Jackson as our options at backup PG?
    I wouldn't mind a back court of Jackson and Morrow to come off the bench. IF Rivers gets traded (which I hope he doesn't). Please no more Roberts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDawg26 View Post
    I wouldn't mind a back court of Jackson and Morrow to come off the bench. IF Rivers gets traded (which I hope he doesn't). Please no more Roberts!
    Morrow is going to cost us probably more than River's salary that we would be dumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamQuailman View Post
    Thank you to whoever blamed me for spreading the rumor to TigerDroppings. I don't even have an account on that craphole site. Appreciate it a lot fellas.
    Quails are never snitches. I vouch for you on this matter.

    Even if i don't know what we're talking about or what tigerdroppings is.

    But still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgan View Post
    Quails are never snitches. I vouch for you on this matter.

    Even if i don't know what we're talking about or what tigerdroppings is.

    But still.
    I appreciate it. Someone posted RekeHavoc's rumor on tiger droppings and I guess someone felt compelled to throw me under the bus. Not sure what I did to merit that "honor", but I'm not an *******.



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    I bet Dell had learned his lesson. If a restricted free agent( i.e. Gordon) tells you not to match a contract, then you don't do it. I hate to beat a dead horse but that max contract is really hampering some moves we could make.


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    can someone give me a breif recap of the entire deal? What protection on the pick? and is the rumor we are sending a player and getting a SF back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedyG View Post
    can someone give me a breif recap of the entire deal? What protection on the pick? and is the rumor we are sending a player and getting a SF back?
    Asik for a 2015 first. There is no conformation what the protections are. Rumored to be 1-3 and 20-30 protected.

    As MM has pointed out, one of the core 5 or Rivers has to be moved to fit Asik. There's rumors about deals but obviously Dell is listening to all options first to see what is the best he can do.

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    I'm really finding it hard to be optimistic about this trade. I just don't think this team has a shot at playoff contention, giving previous history and coaching.

    Someone please try to talk me into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    I'm really finding it hard to be optimistic about this trade. I just don't think this team has a shot at playoff contention, giving previous history and coaching.

    Someone please try to talk me into it.
    No. If you can't understand how awesome the Asik trade is already there is nothing we can say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    I'm really finding it hard to be optimistic about this trade. I just don't think this team has a shot at playoff contention, giving previous history and coaching.

    Someone please try to talk me into it.
    Why are you not optimistic?

    Davis/Asik /Anderson is arguably the best 3 big rotation in the league. Holiday/Evans are a very strong backcourt. They have depth pieces with rivers/roberts/ajinca/withey and jackson stashed. They only need to get rid of gordon and get a decent SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mythrol View Post
    No. If you can't understand how awesome the Asik trade is already there is nothing we can say.
    Thanks for trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    Let's assign players to the MLE, the room exception, and the draft pick.

    I will say:

    Room exception - Richard Jefferson
    MLE - Jordan Hill
    1st round pick - James Young

    In option 1, you fill out roster with Ryno, Jefferson, Withey, and 3-5 minimum guys

    In option 2, you fill out roster with Rivers, Player X, James Young, Withey, Morrow, Jordan Hill, and Babbitt

    And yes, there are thousands of permutations of this, but it is an example.
    This is why I think Dell is a genius if he pulls this off the way it's been rumored he's pursuing it.

    Option 2 is clearly the better option and gives you a roster that is constructed to compete with Phoenix, Dallas, Memphis, and Portland for a playoff spot. The playoffs just showed us how important having depth is, if only to make sure guys have fresh legs entering the 2nd season.

    If Player X is who he was last year, the Pelicans will not have a single hole in the starting 5. And option 2 gives us depth and a couple of those rookie contracts that ESPN folks seem to think are the most valuable assets a team can have.

    The part of this that is even more exciting is what could happen with Gordon. IMO, there are 3 options:

    1. Gordon sucks, pouts, and/or is injured a lot next season
    2. Gordon stays healthy and guns for 6th Man of the Year making our bench very very good.
    3. Gordon is traded for some other asset(s) that we can't predict but contributes to our depth. Something like Gordon to Chicago for Boozer/Snell (or Dunleavy). Or Gordon to Charlotte for MKG. Or Gordon to Nuggets for Gallo.

    It seems really reasonable to think this team could be setting up for a bigger year than anyone in the national media will predict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleeper View Post
    I bet Dell had learned his lesson. If a restricted free agent( i.e. Gordon) tells you not to match a contract, then you don't do it. I hate to beat a dead horse but that max contract is really hampering some moves we could make.


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    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    I'm really finding it hard to be optimistic about this trade. I just don't think this team has a shot at playoff contention, giving previous history and coaching.

    Someone please try to talk me into it.
    Our biggeset issues have been injuries, rebounding, and defense. Our offense was actually pretty strong.

    SO, this trade helps us with the one thing we can actually control. Asik is a top 5 defensive center and rebounds the hell out of the ball. He will mesh into Monty's highly mobile defense, while not taking any shots from our core players. He is servicable on offense as well.

    Ultimately this allows us to get him involved in our system a year early as opposed to signing him next year. It could also serve to convince him that this is a long term solution where he can both win, and receive PT

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emperor View Post
    Why are you not optimistic?

    Davis/Asik /Anderson is arguably the best 3 big rotation in the league. Holiday/Evans are a very strong backcourt. They have depth pieces with rivers/roberts/ajinca/withey and jackson stashed. They only need to get rid of gordon and get a decent SF.
    That last part is what bothers me. We still have a hole in SF. We have to get rid of some depth to take back Asik. And we can blame injuries all we want for last season, but the West is incredibly tough. I personally feel that you don't trade draft picks until you're confident you can make the playoffs consistently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    Thanks for trying.
    Debbie downer, Womp Womp

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    If you can convince me that there would be somebody between 4-20 in next years draft that would help us more in the future than Asik does now I will concede this argument.
    If you Jimmer it, they will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The JNR View Post
    That last part is what bothers me. We still have a hole in SF. We have to get rid of some depth to take back Asik. And we can blame injuries all we want for last season, but the West is incredibly tough. I personally feel that you don't trade draft picks until you're confident you can make the playoffs consistently.
    Cool story bro.

  20. #470
    Quote Originally Posted by jhow0036 View Post

    Hopefully it's contingent on Dell finding a third team and keeping the MLE.


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  21. #471
    I like the move the Pelicans made. All we need now is a decent SF.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/10/...ouston-rockets


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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmide234 View Post
    Our biggeset issues have been injuries, rebounding, and defense. Our offense was actually pretty strong.

    SO, this trade helps us with the one thing we can actually control. Asik is a top 5 defensive center and rebounds the hell out of the ball. He will mesh into Monty's highly mobile defense, while not taking any shots from our core players. He is servicable on offense as well.

    Ultimately this allows us to get him involved in our system a year early as opposed to signing him next year. It could also serve to convince him that this is a long term solution where he can both win, and receive PT
    I do like the front court together. Thanks for responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamQuailman View Post
    I appreciate it. Someone posted RekeHavoc's rumor on tiger droppings and I guess someone felt compelled to throw me under the bus. Not sure what I did to merit that "honor", but I'm not an *******.
    What the **** are you talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_ View Post
    I like the move the Pelicans made. All we need now is a decent SF.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2013/10/...ouston-rockets

    That's awesome. Our interior defense is set, and with Jrue on the ball... our perimeter looks good too. Just need to find a 3 that can defend and knock down shots.

  25. #475
    One thing I don't like is all the negativity about this trade . We get a top center with elite defensive skill set that will help AD out as a player and keep him from taking a beating defending the basket because we have no one else to do it . Asik guarantees this and draft pick in the first round doesn't guarantee anything . See Oden , Bennett and countless others . We got an elite defensive center in his prime I think everybody should be happy and stop thinking were missing out on the next Lebron next year .

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