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Why? I thought Ryan Anderson was valuable? And certainly a top 5 protected 2015 and unprotected 2017 pick are valuable. Hell, on a young rebuilding team, even hometown hero Austin Rivers has value. And if you've got $33m to burn, is Eric Gordon really hurting you?Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara
Seriously, what's the downside for Orlando in that trade?
I see this argument a lot and it just doesnt work for me - "X tam has cap space, so a bad contract wont hurt them."
A bad contract is a bad contract. You can keep the room and use it for other players or take on other contracts and get assets in return. There is still an opportunity cost. It is still a terrible contract. Ryno is a solid asset but does not fit their building timeline. Rivers is a solid asset and the picks are okay depending on how Orlando thinks New Orleans will be record wise over the next few years, but not enough to get a rebuilding team to give up the 4th pick in a draft that has a good top tier.
Now, maybe you can get Sacto to give you the 8th pick for Ryno if you take back Jason Thompson. Then, you offer Orlando that pick and our 2015 pick for the 4th pick. Maybe.
The issue with our assets is that they are for teams who want to win now, and again, other than the Cavs the teams in the top 5 dont want to win now.
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I really don't see Ryan Anderson having too much value until he has played a couple months & shows he is healthy, if (big if) he is traded I don't think it will be until around the trade deadline.
Celtics want to win now, but maybe 6 isn't high enough for Dell.
That would fit the rumor...
See, on day one, I enjoyed the rumor, and defended the fun of debating it. On day 2, I'm just sad and wished I didn't defend it in the first place.
Can he????? Hell ye!!!!!!!. This kid is 18 years old 250 lbs and has a 7'5" wingspan. AD was 222 lbs coming out.
He would be our center and he will be a center wherever he goes.
The Spurs took Duncan despite having David Robinson. Cause it is genius.
even if we sold the farm to swing that deal, it would work out in the end.
Jrue
Morrow
Ariza
Anthony Davis
Noah Vonleh
Championships galore
1 thing i don't like about that is only jrue can create, put ur best defender on him and we are screwed IMO.
jrue
tyreke
pj tucker
AD
Embiid or Vonleh
I can dig that
That's simply because the rules have changed and the internet was invented. Free agency was not at all what it is today. I know when I was young, I got excited for Jazz drafts. Had the opportunity been the same, I am sure the fan's involvement would have been the same. It is not fandom that has changed, but the rules and technology.
Does Sheridan believe what he writes? That would mean we would effectively have traded Nerlens Noel (or the #6 pick in the draft last year) to move up from #10 to #8 in this year's draft. What a joke!
Yeah really not a fan of him or the site.
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Can't we just do a Ryan Anderson for the 8th or 6th pick straight out swap?
good point bro. but do jrue and tyreke provide enough shooting ability to keep em honest?
I'll tell ya this, as opposed to most small forwards PJ Tucker is a waaay better prospect for us.
His 3pt % isn't as lethal as some, but he gets to the free throw line so much more than the other ones it isn't even funny
if we did that I'd go against almost every core belief I have as a coach and fan and draft Rodney Hood.
Sorry, he isn't much of a defender nor rebounder and isn't long as I like em to be.
But it would be like making Ryan Anderson a SF and that's what we need. He could play in the league yesterday with that shot. It's high, quick and he can nail it from beyond 3pt range.
idk if he can shoot it just flicking it up there like ryno though
think about this guys, every time Ryno shot in the last two years, people were chasing his arse around. when he starts getting open looks watch out.
while he played last year, he was out-shooting Steph Curry in percentage while taking more per game
I know people say Dell is so hard to predict, but I dont agree. We might not always get the exact player right, but we always know the type of player and criteria. If he were to trade a core piece for another 19 or 20 year old, it would be a total shock. It would go against everything he has said and everything he has done the last few years.
People can talk all they want about whether they would do it or not, but if you step outside of yourself and think like Dell, there is no more anti-Dell move than trading an established young vet for an unproven 19 or 20 yr old. If it happens, it will go against everything we know about Dell's philosophies.
Without a doubt, most teams only have 2 wings who can shoot the 3 anyway, and there u have jrue and pucker, not to mention AD spreads the floor and if we go Vonleh he can shoot the 3.
I love having the idea of 2 combo guard's in ur back court, just like the suns do.
If you have tyreke running point with jrue and pucker spotted up u can't double tyreke, if u do u have a knock down 3 pt shooter open, if u bring a big davis is so fast and will get to the basket and tyreke will drive and dish to him, and if u don't double tyreke, well no one in the NBA can really guard him, i've seen him embarrass top NBA defenders like Tony Allen.
Plus can u imagine the defense from jrue, tucker, AD and Vonleh? yikes.
I agree, except that Dell is always thinking a few movies ahead. He would trade for that 19-20yr old if he knows he can move them for the true piece he wants. That would be the only reason we try to buy into the lottery.
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It's totally Demps' MO to target an experienced player young enough to have a lot of his prime left.
And given that Jrue Holiday and Tyreke have given us fits as opponents...wonder what's the likelyhood we give serious inquiry about Rudy Gay?
Where would we squeeze that huge salary?
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That's the major hiccup. Would have to unload Gordon for starters...
Now THAT is a possibility. Maybe Minny said to him - He get me a top 7 pick and Ryan Anderson and Love is yours. Something like that, yeah I can see. But there is just no way a main piece is gone and a 19 or 20 yr old is in his place come opening day. I just can't see it
I see what you are saying, but I cannot see that being enough to get Love.
If Klay Thompson and Davis Lee supposedly are, I cant imagine Ryno and a top pick arent. I mean, when you consider salary Ryno is 2 to 3 times more valuable than Lee and when you factor in what it is going to cost to keep Klay (not to mention the fact that he isnt very good), then I can see a top pick being close in value.
Ryno and a top 5-7 pick trumps anything I have heard so far.
Maybe as a Pelicans' fan, but with Ryno coming off of an injury and supposedly GS also including a future 1st (although some reports have had the 1st the other way), I think Minny would prefer the GS offer. Not to mention, Love would not commit to re-signing with us IMO.
Off- topic just saw Tyreke in the mall dude is tall but he looks like he's out of shape lol
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