Pelicans looking to get a top 5 pick?

[MichaelMcNamara]

MM, I understand the argument about "disappointed" fans if the top 5 pick doesn't happen, and the "fanatic" comment. HOWEVER, there are levels to fandom. My fandom doesn't make me irrational. It makes me long for constant improvement and a winning program. If we do NOTHING this offseason, win 50 games next year or make the playoffs, I'm good. (FWIW, getting Jrue and Ryno back makes us a better team than the end of last year).

My issues with the team come when we do (or don't do) things to make us better. I've learned to not live in the moment and let things play out before jumping to conclusions. Dell, Monty, heck probably all the guys at BSS know more about the game than I do. This provides an explanation to defer judgment on personnel moves until I see how it results on the court.

I said all that to say, don't lump ALL fans into the sect that don't know a skip pass from Skip Bayless.

Well fan, short for fanatic means something specific.

I agree that there are levels, which is why I am trying to find a new word. I am a rec'er myself now. I like that term.

[wuggie]

When you actually use your brain, this has little to no chance of happening unless we use one of our future picks, which still may not help (*edit*which MM said below) We may be looking for a pick or deal, sure but a top 5? I know how this even happend possibly "Derp. New Orleans is really active right now. Derp. As active as a team trying to get a....TOP FIVE PICK! DDERPP!" Lol It's called yellow journalism guys. And also may I remind you how credible draft rumors are when every year you hear 10,000 things from "credible sources" that never even come to be?

[fullcourtpress]

I do totally get it, and I feel that way about certain players to the extent that I want to give out the farm to get them. I was half/joking in all honesty. I will say that a Tyreke/Meeks/Hayward backcourt is frighteningly awful on defense.

lol I hear ya. Deng and Jrue would be lockdown

[MichaelMcNamara]

Even a future pick couldnt help get you into top 5. Teams up there dont have bad contracts they are dying to get rid of and arent trying to get good next year.

I mean, if I were to go down this rabbit hole, the only possible trade would be something like

Jrue and unprotected picks in 2015 and 2017 for #4 and Glen Davis. That would assume the Magic are making a push starting next year, which I highly doubt.

Then, what? Dell takes Embiid and pushes the whole building process back 3 years?

I cant emphasize enough how untrue this is. But the guy got the attention he wanted. Good for him

[HornetGuru]

Let's just trade two first round picks and ryno for Wiggins, and then lock him in the gym until his 3pt shot is money

CHAMPIONSHIP!

[UNO Gracias]

I believe in Premier League they call fans "supporters". That lacks the connotation of being mindless or zealots I think, which is hilarious considering the audience.

True story.

MM, to your question about 10-20 years from now, what will the news be like? Did you ever catch the epic tale of Idiocracy? The news will be the least of our problems when a fat guy is sitting on somebody's head, and pointing to you saying , "You're next!"

[MichaelMcNamara]

Did see Idiocracy. Thought it was very smart, and shockingly possible.

U just wish there was a way to reverse the tide, but I highly doubt it

[wuggie]

Even a future pick couldnt help get you into top 5. Teams up there dont have bad contracts they are dying to get rid of and arent trying to get good next year.

I mean, if I were to go down this rabbit hole, the only possible trade would be something like

Jrue and unprotected picks in 2015 and 2017 for #4 and Glen Davis. That would assume the Magic are making a push starting next year, which I highly doubt.

Then, what? Dell takes Embiid and pushes the whole building process back 3 years?

I cant emphasize enough how untrue this is. But the guy got the attention he wanted. Good for him

Yep it's pretty unrealistic and illogical. In other words, stupid lol maybe Phoenix really wants EG enough to masterfully execute a trade for us to get a top 5 pick in exchange for the Hobbit and his great contract??

....Screw this, I'm starting a sports blog. Wuggie Writes. Done

[MichaelMcNamara]

Your first post might want to be about refreshing peoples' memories that Phoenix has a whole new FO staff that would have zero interest in Gordon. Not as well known as I tought it was. See them mentioned as a trade partner for him far too often.

[wuggie]

And Idiocracy maybe coming faster than we know it. Instead of bunkers for a zombie apocalypse maybe someone should start making bunkers for the stupidity fallout? You guys should watch the news more, only if you want to get depressed of course.

[Soundwave]

I just enjoy seeing our team's name being mentioned in all these rumors. Don't ever remember it being like this.

[MichaelMcNamara]

But then, when it dont come true, what does it matter that they were mentioned?

I guess I am trying to understand the value people see in unrealistic rumors. Is it just a short term thing that distracts you from otherwise being bored? Because there is certainly no long term benefit. When Thursday comes and goes w/o us getting a top 5 guy, there will be no benefit then. So, is it just a short term escape from boredom that this provides?

[Tomdda]

But if this is the criteria to start really getting into a topic that we all know is completely illogical, I just think it sets people up for disappointment. But that is the choice of each individual person.

I just hope that when we grade the offseason, we do it without the idea of these rediculous rumors floating around in our mind.

I won't be disappointed if this rumor doesn't materialize and I think the vast majority see it for what it is: an outlandish, unsubstantiated, unrealistic rumor. But it's something different, i.e., interesting to discuss. I'd be surprised if even a small minority based the success or failure of the offseason on one rumor. I think it's common knowledge that some of the trades that Guru proposes (nothing personel Guru, just an example) are unrealistic. But that doesn't mean they can't be a topic of conversation. Nobody saw the Jrue trade coming last June, and most would have said that it was unrealistic if it had been proposed before it happened.

In my opinion, just the fact that it was leaked makes it more unlikely to ever occur.

[MichaelMcNamara]

I guess I just wonder where the line is though. I mean, building a time machine and bringing Larry Bird back from 1984 to play for us would be a real interesting scenario, but I doubt we get a ten page thread going on it. So, whats the line?

I guess it is me. I personally dont find it interesting to discuss things that arent possible. Seems like I am the oddball, and I am cool with that. Just genuinely trying to understand.

[Mythrol]

If you can keep a rational head, I guess there is no downside. I guess I just wish actual gameplay would ignite conversations as much as false rumors did. One way or another, it will be over in 6 days.

I wish actual players would ignite excitement as much as an unknown draft pick does.

[Tomdda]

I guess I just wonder where the line is though. I mean, building a time machine and bringing Larry Bird back from 1984 to play for us would be a real interesting scenario, but I doubt we get a ten page thread going on it. So, whats the line?

I guess it is me. I personally dont find it interesting to discuss things that arent possible. Seems like I am the oddball, and I am cool with that. Just genuinely trying to understand.

People are different, I don't think it's any more complicated than that. And thank God for the differences, the world would be pretty boring if every one thought the same things.

[PelicanFever]

So we are just gonna ignore that this tweet came from somebody who has no track record in the NBA and that is beyond unlikely? This thread is just going to continue on until Thursday, with everyone getting their hopes up and then nothing close to this comes to fruition.

Then, Dell has a solid offseason, but doesn't pull a miracle out of thin air and folks are disappointed because they got all excited about rumors that couldn't possibly happen in any realistic world.

Ugh.

Be disappointed?? I would be disappointed if we made a trade to get into the top5 and break up the core

[redrum]

Now I see the problem.

No need for that, my family and many friends have worked very long hours at the TP for decades. Papers are dying and they are doing the best they can to be relivent vs the internet. Just as I should apologize for saying the guy who wrote about Kris Humphries did a poor job for BSS, I think you should take a step back and think about how hard it is to still work for a paper, and instead of judging them and telling everyone in this forum how silly they are for thinking about such rumors, wouldn't a true journalist go check with their sources to debunk said rumor instead of criticizing their readers.

[Jabberwalker]

Be disappointed?? I would be disappointed if we made a trade to get into the top5 and break up the core

[AirForce1]

For Example, I don't think Roger Goodell is the Anti-Christ.

If it was possible on Pelican Report, I would red thumbed the **** out of you for this =)

[AirForce1]

Even a future pick couldnt help get you into top 5. Teams up there dont have bad contracts they are dying to get rid of and arent trying to get good next year.

Larry Sanders comes to mind, the dude just checked into detox.

[LouisianaPride]

If it was possible on Pelican Report, I would red thumbed the **** out of you for this =)

Fair enough

[DroopyDawg]

Gonna be a fun week... already getting unpossible scenarios for the Pels.

[PelicanFever]

I only saw this in the first place because Mason Ginsberg retweeted it and talked about so decided to share it

[Soundwave]

But then, when it dont come true, what does it matter that they were mentioned?

I guess I am trying to understand the value people see in unrealistic rumors. Is it just a short term thing that distracts you from otherwise being bored? Because there is certainly no long term benefit. When Thursday comes and goes w/o us getting a top 5 guy, there will be no benefit then. So, is it just a short term escape from boredom that this provides?

It tells me Dell is putting in work. And possibly extra work for us to be involved in so many rumors.

I don't even think this would be a good deal for us unless we can dump Gordon's contract with it. I believe, like usual, moves will be made that we haven't even heard an inkling of rumors on. When I hear rumors about the Pels, I doubt that specific move will be made because it never has. I know the reports do not come out of our camp, we are as tight lipped as can be. But they do tell me Dell is working his butt off and perhaps looking for more than just a tiny move. I feel something bigger coming (and I also have other reasons to believe this). And that is what gets me excited, knowing we are not just sitting around complacent with a 34 win team. We are working hard to improve on that.

Maybe nothing happens, but I will know we tried.

But this particular move would make no sense to me. It jives with everything we have done the past 2-3 years. We know Dell wants "young vets" and we know Monty isn't interested in coaching more rookies.