Actually taken a little bit higher than expected. Most people thought mid to late teens. I still think the tipping point for him being chosen was the relationship with his family.Originally Posted by eballa1
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Actually taken a little bit higher than expected. Most people thought mid to late teens. I still think the tipping point for him being chosen was the relationship with his family.
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It makes me SO MAD to think that Drummond went 1 pick before us.
Yeah, me too. However, I'll be honest, it scares me that even if he fell, I could see Dell/Monty picking Rivers.
I was always worried about that possibility. I would have been so done w this franchise if we passed on Drummond and selected Rivers.
"I don't know if people know — I dislocated my pinkie finger. And [Tyreke] told me, 'You wanna go home or you wanna be here?' I want to be here. And he said, 'All right, then go tape it up and let's play. Let's go. We not stoppin' at no stores. Straight gas. That's what we do, just keep going.'"
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I'll give them the benefit of the doubt lol. Would have been unbelievable.
Dell Demps inherited a **** team and actually has built a team with a lot of talent. It's on the coach to get the team to play well together.
The only move I question of Demps is Gordan, and I thought it was our best option at the time, so whatever. I think Dell is easily top 15 in the league, and I don't see any moves that should warrant a lower ranking.
Not really but that was the reported deal a week ago. Rivers for Udoh.
Top 15? I am not that impressed. The best move he has made was drafting AD and he lucked into that. The Ryno signing was very good. The jury is still out on the Holiday trade and the Evans signing. I really liked the Belinelli, Vasquez and Lopez trades, but he gave all of them away again after a relatively short period.
Okay so going from
Jack
Gordan
Ariza
Kaman
Okafor
To
Holiday
Gordan
Tyreke
Anderson
Davis
Isn't good enough to you?
That's not what he started with.
When did I say he started with that? Exactly...
In two years this team has improved talent wise by a TON! Now it's time for the coach and the players to deliver.
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Look at the team he started with and where he is now. He utilized those assets to get where he is today. Look at the record of the team he started with and the ones lately. I do not think he has done a terrible job at all. However, I think he has made his share of questionable moves. I also still cannot forget the trade he signed off on for CP3 that would likely have prevented us from getting AD (and in all likelihood, he would have been fired by now). He has gotten himself into a couple of sizeable long term deals that need to pay off for him to be considered a good GM (Gordon, Evans and Holiday).
So because the team declined from when we had Chris Paul and David West, Dell Demps is bad? You know Coaches and GMs can grow just like players. The past 2 years have been solid for Dell. If you dont agree, then maybe you should go find us a new GM. I'm waiting for the guy who you think would put this team over the top.
I actually think it's time for the coaches and players to step up. Dell has assembled a solid team after the CPME disaster.
ALSO, let that Laker's trade go... You can't judge him on something that didn't happen, especially when what actually happened was a positive move for the franchise.
You seem to be making nothing but excuses for him. You most certainly can judge him by a trade he agreed to and had to be bailed out of. It would have changed the entire future of the Pelicans. What "actually happened" was orchestrated by his bosses. Also, you most certainly judge a GM by what he does with the assets he has at his disposal and how he shapes his team. I still think he gets an "incomplete." I want to see the direction of the team as it seems to be constantly moving. The Evans signing could end up being a terrible move for him if he cannot find something to do with Gordon. He invested $44 million on a guy that right now, does not fit the SF role or the Ginobili role he touted him for.
Yeah, what he started with was even worse.
I've pointed out in this thread mutliple times of the magic he has pulled off. You fail to acknowledge that, like usual. Have fun hating everything about this organization "Pelicans Fan."
Tyreke sure wasn't a terrible move when he was posting crazy numbers with Anderson. Typical.
You simply cannot understand that others may have a different opinion than yours. You get defensive whenever anyone disagrees with you. If you don't like it, so be it. Move on.
The irony. I've pointed out multiple positive moves he's made. All the negative moves you've pointed out are "fake and didn't happen" and too early to judge. Yes, signing Gordan was a bad move, but other than that I don't see a bad move, and even the ones in question have onlly had like 6 months to develop... Talk about small sample size theatre.
Move on.
So you like that we gave up a 1st rd pick for bayless which turned out to be a horrible move cause we traded him 1 month later for jack. Ok fair enough. Jarrett jack is worth a 1st rd pick.
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What really happened with that CP3 to Lakers trade? From what I've read it was never discussed at the BOG meeting. Stern wasn't even the one who coined the phrase "basketball reasons". We all know Dell had to come up with something. CP3 wanted out and he had to come up with something. It was already understood by most that we wouldn't be getting full value for Paul. Is it possible the trade was discussed between Dell, the Rockets and CP3's camp? CJ and CP3's camp could've put it out there in the media hoping it would somehow be forced if they put it out there as already a done deal? One thing for certain, Dell had to come up with something. Paul wanted out. No one here knows what they would've done if they were GM. Some people were ready to get the fiasco over with and would've traded Paul for a bag of Skittles.
I don't really know what happened but I'm glad it did. And if he really cried upon leaving New Orleans I hope he cried because he wasn't going to the L.A. team he tried to get to.
I remain this way cause I wanted Henson after him and he went several picks after Rivers. He's not Drummond, but we wouldn't be looking for a big any longer. it would have been another piece to the five-piece puzzle
The only thing I remember about that proposed trade with LA was that the Hornets were going to take on a TON of salary, and the NBA didn't want the eventual owner to have that kind of payroll on the books as they bought the team.
Stern took the bullet because he was speaking on behalf of the league, but somebody in the league office rang the alarm, and Stern squashed the deal.
That's my opinion... nothing more. No inside info nor did I hear this from anyone.
Things could always be worse
That first round pick was like 19th in the 2011 draft. I'm fine with that. Also, Portland turned around and traded that pick plus Joel Przybilla, Dante Cunningham, Sean Marks to Charlotte for Gerald Wallace. Charlotte with the 19th pick select Tobias Harris who was traded to Milkwaukee who was a no body until he came to Orlando last year and had a breakout season. I don't see how it was that bad. Jack was a player CPME wanted to play with and provided good things of the bench in our only playoff run.
That first round pick was protected 1-7 in 2011 and 1-8 2012-2014.
You are acting like we traded away the rights to the next Kobe Bryant... (we did that already)
Then not to mention. Jarrett jack was traded for the rights to edin bavcic.
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