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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBreaker View Post
    Playoff contender.

    Once you get there anything can happen.
    But Kikkoman clearly stated championship contender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    But Kikkoman clearly stated championship contender.
    Why not?

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    When I say "legit championship contender," I mean one of the favorites for a top seed, a objectively much better than the lower echelon playoff teams.

    Right now, I think we max out at around a 5-6 seed. Which is awesome, because with our youth, we have a ceiling miles above.

    To clarify, in 3-4 years, our big guys, Gordon, Jrue, Evans, and Anderson will be 27-28, in the prime of their prime. Our other star will be 23-24 entering his prime, but with his talent, skill, and work ethic, chances are he will be a superstar level NBA player. At this point, I think we are legitimate threats to go to multiple NBA championship series.

    While I do agree that anything can happen in the playoffs, and that any pundit who says we are fighting for that 8th seed is full of garbage (we're a lock for the playoffs this year, quote me on that), I still don't think we'd compete for a championship against the top teams in the West right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KikkomanSauce View Post
    When I say "legit championship contender," I mean one of the favorites for a top seed, a objectively much better than the lower echelon playoff teams.

    Right now, I think we max out at around a 5-6 seed. Which is awesome, because with our youth, we have a ceiling miles above.

    To clarify, in 3-4 years, our big guys, Gordon, Jrue, Evans, and Anderson will be 27-28, in the prime of their prime. Our other star will be 23-24 entering his prime, but with his talent, skill, and work ethic, chances are he will be a superstar level NBA player. At this point, I think we are legitimate threats to go to multiple NBA championship series.

    While I do agree that anything can happen in the playoffs, and that any pundit who says we are fighting for that 8th seed is full of garbage (we're a lock for the playoffs this year, quote me on that), I still don't think we'd compete for a championship against the top teams in the West right now.
    I know this might seem a little unrealistic but I agree. Look at the talent on our roster, I don't think there's a better closing 5 in the NBA... Honestly, if this team had been playing together for the past few years I think we'd be a lock for the WCF. The talent is unbelievable and j think Anthony Davis will be so good. As this team grows, I really do think we'll win a championship. I'd love someone to find a better group of 5 players that can play together. Not to mention we have good depth as well. I really think we have a great roster on our hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBreaker View Post
    Playoff contender.

    Once you get there anything can happen.
    No it can't. This isn't the NFL, where an inferior team can have a one-time lucky game and turn it into a superbowl run. Count how many teams have won the nba title in the last 20 years, and tell me if you're surprised please.

    Contending this year, seriously. I want some of what you guys are smoking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgan View Post
    No it can't. This isn't the NFL, where an inferior team can have a one-time lucky game and turn it into a superbowl run. Count how many teams have won the nba title in the last 20 years, and tell me if you're surprised please.

    Contending this year, seriously. I want some of what you guys are smoking.
    agree

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    Looking at our roster... I think we can at least compete with the top tier teams in the West. We can compete with San Antonio. We can play with San Antone. We'll give the Clippers a great game. This year may be too soon because I think we need a year or so to finally "gel". But after this season anything goes.

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    Look I'm not the type of fan that will dismiss our team from certain goals. Why not be all the way confident in your team?? We finally have a right to be. I say he'll with it and dream big. No need to get disappointed if we fail to reach those goals cause our future is bright. Very bright. This team will def be labeled a championship contender by main stream media in next couple years IMO. I love being the underdog. Cause when we shock the world. The main stream guys (experts) will try n explain how they knew this could happen and Yada Yada Yada. On paper this team looks ridiculous. Especially if we get Oden signed. Watch out!! I understand it will prob take a few years to gel BUT with the talent on this roster. Who's to say these guys can't figure it out mid season?? Ya never know but I'm just glad we have a team we can even have some dam positive expectations for.

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    If he's just looking for the money, it looks like we will have the best offer.

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    When is he 'supposedly' going to make a decision by?
    I read somwhere August......but surely it shouldn't take that long.

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    Hi agent said that it could be weeks before we know, but I'm pretty confident that Loomis will make it happen before =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    When is he 'supposedly' going to make a decision by?
    I read somwhere August......but surely it shouldn't take that long.
    I think we will see a decision within 2 weeks at most.

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    Do ppl think if Oden does sign here there will be room for Smith,
    Steimsma, Withey and Oden?

    I think Smith ends up playing half the time PF if we have all
    those guys and unfortunately Withey goes to the D-League.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN View Post
    Do ppl think if Oden does sign here there will be room for Smith,
    Steimsma, Withey and Oden?

    I think Smith ends up playing half the time PF if we have all
    those guys and unfortunately Withey goes to the D-League.
    If it works out so well that we have to play JSmith at PF or send Withey to the D-League because they can't get minutes then there's nothing "unfortunate" about that. It means 3 million well spent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgan View Post
    No it can't. This isn't the NFL, where an inferior team can have a one-time lucky game and turn it into a superbowl run. Count how many teams have won the nba title in the last 20 years, and tell me if you're surprised please.

    Contending this year, seriously. I want some of what you guys are smoking.
    Ok. Tell Benson to shut it down. No use in playing the games then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Hand me Brandon Wright over G.O 8 days a week z that said, G.O is more affordable ATM.
    Brandon Wright is a 210 lb center, now who can he possibly defend?

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    I'm a Wright fan, but in our situation I give Smith every minute that Wright would get. Same production, better overall defense.
    Wherehappens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post
    Brandon Wright is a 210 lb center, now who can he possibly defend?
    Nerlens Noel and his 7' 180 lb frame.
    If you Jimmer it, they will come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Nerlens Noel and his 7' 180 lb frame.
    Noel is not that small 1st of all, but 2nd look up any of my posts before the draft, I was not and still not sold on Noel. I just think we need a center who can defend the bigger guys, Could that be Stiems/Withey? Not so sure but probably not. Wright isn't the answer for us.

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    I never said you were, I am saying that there are guys that Wright can defend, starting with Noel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    Nerlens Noel and his 7' 180 lb frame.
    I guess hyperbole subtracts 40 lbs. eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    I never said you were, I am saying that there are guys that Wright can defend, starting with Noel.
    Yeah I worded my response poorly, wasn't saying you implied that I was just adding my thoughts on Noel. Sorry about that.

    We have 5's that can do what Wright does, if we add another center to this roster it should be someone that can put up a fight against the Duncans Howards and Gasols. That is not Brandon Wright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post
    Yeah I worded my response poorly, wasn't saying you implied that I was just adding my thoughts on Noel. Sorry about that.

    We have 5's that can do what Wright does, if we add another center to this roster it should be someone that can put up a fight against the Duncans Howards and Gasols. That is not Brandon Wright.

    It's not Oden either. He is going to be on the bench in a suit without a pelicans logo on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    I guess hyperbole subtracts 40 lbs. eh?
    That, or stressing the point that he is a bean pole.

    Wright is much better than people give him credit for. He has come along nicely for a pf/c his size, with his 8/5/1 average. I would take that from my big. His defense is solid (much more solid than the much touted, older Al Jefferson that many were clamoring for).

    But this point is moot as Dallas is going to bring him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNO Gracias View Post
    It's not Oden either. He is going to be on the bench in a suit without a pelicans logo on it.
    At 280 lbs of muscle, if Oden can play 15mpg that would be perfect. I really don't care if he's lost anything offensively. Just need someone to defend and rebound.

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