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Thread: Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PelicanFever View Post
    i thought that you thought that vet leadership was overrated??...it does help develop young guys
    Way I figure overrated isn't the same as useless or undesirable.

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    I think a sign and trade for Iggy with the Nuggets getting Gordon is prob best for both parties.

    Then flipping GV and a maybe a future pick for Evans is a possibility.

    Then, if Houston gets DH, we could perhaps flip Lopez and Rivers for Asik.

    1. Holiday/Jackson
    2. Evans/?
    3. Iggy/Miller
    4. Davis/Anderson
    5. Asik/Smith

    That is a sick line-up that contends with any team in the league.
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    Man who is gonna stretch our floor with reke and iggy on our team... I honestly don't think that's a fair trade straight up for Gordon for Reke but I understand we need to get him out of here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    Man who is gonna stretch our floor with reke and iggy on our team... I honestly don't think that's a fair trade straight up for Gordon for Reke but I understand we need to get him out of here...
    A pairing of Tyreke and Ig makes zero sense to me. Zero.

    The only thing I can say is at least they would both play.

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    I like our roster better with Gordon rather than with Reke

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    I like our roster better with Gordon rather than with Reke
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by PelicanFever View Post
    i thought that you thought that vet leadership was overrated??...it does help develop young guys
    Overrated =/= useless.

    Again it largerly depends on the type of players. I used the example of Cousins and Kidd-Gilchirst. One needs leadership far more than the other.
    Last edited by da ThRONe; 07-01-2013 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    Man who is gonna stretch our floor with reke and iggy on our team... I honestly don't think that's a fair trade straight up for Gordon for Reke but I understand we need to get him out of here...
    Quote Originally Posted by Smirk View Post
    A pairing of Tyreke and Ig makes zero sense to me. Zero.

    The only thing I can say is at least they would both play.
    Starting to agree with you 2. With that lineup we would have only 1 player on the floor who shoots over 33% from 3. I think we should get 1 of Evans or Iggy, not both. Need to add another floor stretcher in the starting lineup. Teams will beat us by crowding the paint.

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    Just to muddy the water. But Evans shot the three better than Gordon last year. I tend to feel better about Gordon shooting well just like you guys do, but that's far from a given. And as has been discussed, Anderson is expected on the court more times than not, giving us Holiday and Anderson to stretch the floor.

    I've never been a massive Tyreke fan, but side by side he seems to do all the same things Gordon can do and more.

    I more focus on the suffocating defense we would have by now having an athletic 6'4 PG, and an athletic 6'6 SG, to go with two guys I expect to defend as well as anyone at their positions in Iggy and Davis. It would be suffocating. And while $14.5 million and $11 million may not seem like a huge difference, it could be enough to keep a Robin Lopez on the roster. (again, not even mentioning the attitude and knee/injury concerns of Gordon).

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    What about pairing Webster with Tyreke?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar View Post
    Starting to agree with you 2. With that lineup we would have only 1 player on the floor who shoots over 33% from 3. I think we should get 1 of Evans or Iggy, not both. Need to add another floor stretcher in the starting lineup. Teams will beat us by crowding the paint.
    Yes... We cant just expect Ryno just to do it by himself we came into this off-season looking for shooters and now that someone put some zirconium in ppl faces (Evans) people wants to go the other way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Just to muddy the water. But Evans shot the three better than Gordon last year. I tend to feel better about Gordon shooting well just like you guys do, but that's far from a given. And as has been discussed, Anderson is expected on the court more times than not, giving us Holiday and Anderson to stretch the floor.

    I've never been a massive Tyreke fan, but side by side he seems to do all the same things Gordon can do and more.

    I more focus on the suffocating defense we would have by now having an athletic 6'4 PG, and an athletic 6'6 SG, to go with two guys I expect to defend as well as anyone at their positions in Iggy and Davis. It would be suffocating. And while $14.5 million and $11 million may not seem like a huge difference, it could be enough to keep a Robin Lopez on the roster. (again, not even mentioning the attitude and knee/injury concerns of Gordon).
    Yeah, good thoughts. I think also comes down to what MM has been saying, getting good players, not good pairings or great shooters, etc.
    Wherehappens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaniard View Post
    Just to muddy the water. But Evans shot the three better than Gordon last year. I tend to feel better about Gordon shooting well just like you guys do, but that's far from a given. And as has been discussed, Anderson is expected on the court more times than not, giving us Holiday and Anderson to stretch the floor.

    I've never been a massive Tyreke fan, but side by side he seems to do all the same things Gordon can do and more.

    I more focus on the suffocating defense we would have by now having an athletic 6'4 PG, and an athletic 6'6 SG, to go with two guys I expect to defend as well as anyone at their positions in Iggy and Davis. It would be suffocating. And while $14.5 million and $11 million may not seem like a huge difference, it could be enough to keep a Robin Lopez on the roster. (again, not even mentioning the attitude and knee/injury concerns of Gordon).
    The reason why Ej stats wasn't all that is because he tried to put the team on his back now that we have Jrue he dont need to do as much PLUS (WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!) I think Gordon can be a spot up shooter...

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    Gordon's made almost as many 3 pointers in one season as Tyreke has throughout his career.

    Can we not compare their three point shooting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    The reason why Ej stats wasn't all that is because he tried to put the team on his back now that we have Jrue he dont need to do as much PLUS (WAIT THERE'S MORE!!!) I think Gordon can be a spot up shooter...
    Couldn't that be said for Evans too.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GameBreaker View Post
    What about pairing Webster with Tyreke?
    I think that or Wright should be plan B. I guess Budinger is ok, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign View Post
    Gordon's made almost as many 3 pointers in one season as Tyreke has throughout his career.

    Can we not compare their three point shooting?
    Besides the 9 games 2 years ago, Gordon's lowest season 3pt% was 32.5 and that was last year. Evans highest in his career was also last year and that was 34%. Sooooo yeah no comparion. Also last year was the first year Evans finished above 29% in that category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username View Post
    Couldn't that be said for Evans too.....?
    No... Cause he cant shoot... he is pretty much a slasher just like Iggy

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    Couldn't that be said for Evans too.....?
    It could be said that the volume difference is Evans knowing not to take noneffective and Gordon too less effective shots.

    "I don't know if people know — I dislocated my pinkie finger. And [Tyreke] told me, 'You wanna go home or you wanna be here?' I want to be here. And he said, 'All right, then go tape it up and let's play. Let's go. We not stoppin' at no stores. Straight gas. That's what we do, just keep going.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple Haze View Post
    I think that or Wright should be plan B. I guess Budinger is ok, too.
    My Plan A is acquiring Asik and signing Wright or Budinger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    No... Cause he cant shoot... he is pretty much a slasher just like Iggy
    He proved he could shoot the 3 ok last season. I'm not saying he is as good as Gordon at shooting, but he will still probably have better shots with more weapons around him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username View Post
    He proved he could shoot the 3 ok last season. I'm not saying he is as good as Gordon at shooting, but he will still probably have better shots with more weapons around him
    It took him three years to finally get to at least 34 percent

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    It took him three years to finally get to at least 34 percent
    It's worse that that. It took him 3 years to get in the 30s.

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    like the great Sovereign once said

    "Gordon's made almost as many 3 pointers in one season as Tyreke has throughout his career.

    Can we not compare their three point shooting?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sovereign View Post
    Gordon's made almost as many 3 pointers in one season as Tyreke has throughout his career.

    Can we not compare their three point shooting?
    There's some truth to that. Though that was Gordon's rookie year, and he has had a steady decline in his 3 PT shooting with last year being his worst(not counting the 9 games with us in 11/12). Meanwhile Tyreke shot the best percentage of his career. That could be an anomaly, or it could be a sign of things to come.

    I personally believe Tyreke will improve his shooting but never be much more than a 33% shooter. Whereas Gordon is probably more like his career average of 36.3%. (These are just my opinions).

    At the end of the day, I see them both as more dribble drive SG's than stretch the floor shooters. Tyreke gives you so many other things though that Gordon could never.

    And I hate that I have to take this side, because I just said a couple of days ago how I couldn't wait for Tyreke to sign so people would stop bringing him up. Now look at me.

    PS- this was a team with Rivers and Aminu at the 2 and 3 to start last season, and Vasquez at PG. You want to talk about poor spacing, lol.

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