John Wall wants to draft "A four man that can pick and pop"

[Coughka]

I know SF is a position of need, and Porter seems like the answer, but he's soooooo slow, can't get to the basket, and is generally pretty unathletic.

[HornetGuru]

burke, oladipo, porter in that order, if we land any of the 3, i think we did awesome.

[AD23forMVP]

The more I look at this draft I honestly have no idea where we go.

Say Noel, McLemore, Bennett, Oladipo, and Porter are gone. Where do we go?

You could say PG, but I think the team thinks much more highly of Rivers than any of us do. You have Burke, but I just don't see Monty or Dell wanting to add another poor perimeter defender, especially with a lottery pick. You have MCW, but I think they may question some of his offensive abilities.

You could say SF, but if Porter is gone who really is left? You may say Saric but 6 may be a bit too early for him.

And then C? Alex Len? I just can't get behind that.

I think Caldwell-Pope may be at the top right now, assuming we trade Gordon.

[HornetGuru]

The more I look at this draft I honestly have no idea where we go.

Say Noel, McLemore, Bennett, Oladipo, and Porter are gone. Where do we go?

You could say PG, but I think the team thinks much more highly of Rivers than any of us do. You have Burke, but I just don't see Monty or Dell wanting to add another poor perimeter defender, especially with a lottery pick. You have MCW, but I think they may question some of his offensive abilities.

You could say SF, but if Porter is gone who really is left? You may say Saric but 6 may be a bit too early for him.

And then C? Alex Len? I just can't get behind that.

I think Caldwell-Pope may be at the top right now, assuming we trade Gordon.

Burke, regardless of Rivers u dont pass up on burke for unproven rivers, and im the biggest rivers fan.

[wuggie]

right now if i had to do a mock

cavs - noel
magic - mclemore
wizards - bennett
bobcats - oladipo
suns - zeller
pelicans - burke or porter

this would be awesommmmmmmme

i would basically do whatever i could to try and find a way to get the #7 pick from the kings and also take porter at 7 hahaha

I have said this before and it all depends on whom Orlando and the Wizards take. Any of Burke, Porter Oladipo or even Mclemore can be available when we pick. Well have to just wait and see, I'm hoping for any of them lol

[AD23nEG10]

If Porter slips past the Cavs & Wizards by some miracle I still don't see the suns passing on him unless they LOVE Oladipo

[wuggie]

The more I look at this draft I honestly have no idea where we go.

Say Noel, McLemore, Bennett, Oladipo, and Porter are gone. Where do we go?

You could say PG, but I think the team thinks much more highly of Rivers than any of us do. You have Burke, but I just don't see Monty or Dell wanting to add another poor perimeter defender, especially with a lottery pick. You have MCW, but I think they may question some of his offensive abilities.

You could say SF, but if Porter is gone who really is left? You may say Saric but 6 may be a bit too early for him.

And then C? Alex Len? I just can't get behind that.

I think Caldwell-Pope may be at the top right now, assuming we trade Gordon.

We all may be sleeping on KCP as a possibility. He's a defensive minded shooter who may be able to play a little 3 and his personality would fit on this team. Maybe he can become what Xavier Henry was supposed to be lol

[AD23forMVP]

Burke, regardless of Rivers u dont pass up on burke for unproven rivers, and im the biggest rivers fan.

Like I said, just can't see Monty and Dell wanting to add another poor perimeter defender to the roster. Just don't see any scenario where Burke is the pick. He doesn't fit what the team is looking for.

[Eman5805]

Like I said, just can't see Monty and Dell wanting to add another poor perimeter defender to the roster. Just don't see any scenario where Burke is the pick. He doesn't fit what the team is looking for.

But is he even a poor defender?

[Snarly]

1. Noel
2. McLemore
3. Bennett
4. Alex Len
5. Oladipo
6. Porter Jr.

[iNolaNightmare]

Burke, regardless of Rivers u dont pass up on burke for unproven rivers, and im the biggest rivers fan.

Sorry HG, but according to your rosters and statements, you are not the biggest Rivers fan, not even close. You may be, but from your posts there's just no way in hell.

[Pelicans78]

Like I said, just can't see Monty and Dell wanting to add another poor perimeter defender to the roster. Just don't see any scenario where Burke is the pick. He doesn't fit what the team is looking for.

Unless they view Rivers as a combo guard who can create his own shot off the bench.

[iNolaNightmare]

We all may be sleeping KCP as a possibility. He's a defensive minded shooter who may be able to play a little 3 and his personality would fit on this team. Maybe he can become what Xavier Henry was supposed to be lol

I love KCP. I think he'll be one of the best out of this draft.

[HornetGuru]

Sorry HG, but according to your rosters and statements, you are not the biggest Rivers fan, not even close. You may be, but from your posts there's just no way in hell.

explain... I sure hope it isn't because I want us to draft Burke...

[AD23forMVP]

But is he even a poor defender?

Yes, it's his biggest deficiency.

[iNolaNightmare]

explain...

I did. Not trying to be a jerk man

[HornetGuru]

Yes, it's one of his biggest deficiencies.

so was rivers' supposedly, but everyone is saying look how quick and great rivers is on defense, which he is, but burke has a faster sprint and lane agility time. Defense isnt just about lateral quickness, its about anticipation

[HornetGuru]

I did. Not trying to be a jerk man

u said because of my posts, i'd like u to be a little more specific and know if u think im not a huge rivers' fan because I want us to draft burke. didnt say ur being a jerk, im just curious.

[Pelicans78]

If Rivers can improve on defense, I don't see why Burke can't.

[Eman5805]

Yes, it's his biggest deficiency.

It was Chris Paul's weakness as well coming out.

Weaknesses
Paul is a remarkably well-rounded point guard and prospect, but there are a few negatives to mention.

With his quick hands and dominant lateral quickness, you would expect Paul to be a dominant defender. However, he is mediocre at best in this area. While he ends up with a lot of steals, he isn't always an aggressive defender, and doesn't eat up opposing ball handlers the way that he should.

Wake Forest was a very poor defensive team this season, and it showed up in the tournament. While some of that falls on Skip Prosser's system and a few of Paul's teammates, Paul's inability to lock up primary ball handlers (go back to that West Virginia game again), is a place to start when discussing the Demon Deacons' defensive woes.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz2V5pnHkAI
http://www.draftexpress.com

[Snarly]

so was rivers' supposedly, but everyone is saying look how quick and great rivers is on defense, which he is, but burke has a faster sprint and lane agility time. Defense isnt just about lateral quickness, its about anticipation

Add Effort and IQ to that. You don't have to be an Avery Bradley or Eric Bledsoe to play good defense. There are other ways. It's rare to find a PG who can play both ways equally as well.

[AD23forMVP]

so was rivers' supposedly, but everyone is saying look how quick and great rivers is on defense, which he is, but burke has a faster sprint and lane agility time. Defense isnt just about lateral quickness, its about anticipation

Guys like Rivers and Paul aren't the norm. There are a ton of guys who were poor defenders and poor defenders in the NBA. If you aren't a good defender in college more time than not you won't magically become one in the NBA.

[Pelicans78]

Guys like Rivers and Paul aren't the norm. There are a ton of guys who were poor defenders and poor defenders in the NBA. If you aren't a good defender in college more time than not you won't magically become one in the NBA.

To be honest, Rivers still isn't a good defender right now. He's improved, especially against PGs, but struggles overall including against shooting guards due to his inability to fight off screens and lack of length and overt athleticism.

[Snarly]

Rivers isn't the norm. There are a ton of guys who were poor defenders and poor defenders in the NBA.

If you aren't a good defender in college chances are you won't magically become one in the NBA.

Jrue Holiday came into the league as a great defender. He's pretty much fallen off the map now that he's focusing on offense. It goes both ways. Defense is as much about mentality as it is ability. Hell, even JR Smith plays defense.

[Eman5805]

I'd say it's more mentality than ability. LeBron wasn't the defender he is now even 5 years ago. Shane Battier was a very good man defender in his prime and he was never a great athlete.