First things first... What is Rivers?

[GESWhoseBack]

no he hasn't, when they had joe johnson their lineup was bibby, johnson, josh smith, horford, zaza
thats when they were at their best, horford is a true PF.

Might want to check your starting lineups.

[HornetGuru]

Cleveland Alonzo gee?
Detroit Singler just as bad on d as Aminu is on o without the athleticism
Memphis Tayshuan done
Milwaukee mboute or whatever is Aminu lite
Phoenix don't know why they not starting Dudley but Aminu way better than Tucker

ill give u cleveland
ill call detroit a draw
tayshaun prince no, he was very good in their playoff game, if its a 1 season thing prince is still better than aminu is right now
ill call the bucks a draw
dudley was having hamstring problems and is by far better than aminu.

[HornetGuru]

Might want to check your starting lineups.

that was their starting lineup, or atleast i thought. anyway point stands, horford is a true PF forced to play center like bosh in toronto

[GESWhoseBack]

ill give u cleveland
ill call detroit a draw
tayshaun prince no, he was very good in their playoff game, if its a 1 season thing prince is still better than aminu is right now
ill call the bucks a draw
dudley was having hamstring problems and is by far better than aminu.

I know Dudley better, but he didn't start and still played so you can't use him. But that's fine you undervalue what Aminu brings to the table especially playing next to Lopez.

that was their starting lineup, or atleast i thought. anyway point stands, horford is a true PF forced to play center like bosh in toronto

Atlanta starting five was Bibby, JJ, Marvin Williams, Josh, and Horford. From day one. And I would rather Horford, Duncan, Garnett, or Bosh at center before Lopez. Hell I would almost rather see AD take that beating on a nightly basis to get Lopez off the floor. ALMOST

[luckyman]

Why do people keep saying Rivers is better suited at point? He is just a guard at this point with hopes that he can eventually be efficient at either guard spot. At this point right now he is better suited as a 2. Point guard is still a major work in progress, but obviously they are working on it.

[BallSoHard]

Why do people keep saying Rivers is better suited at point? He is just a guard at this point with hopes that he can eventually be efficient at either guard spot. At this point right now he is better suited as a 2. Point guard is still a major work in progress, but obviously they are working on it.

When I watch the games, I feel the answer to the first question. Different viewpoints mean different perspectives I assume though.

[GESWhoseBack]

When I watch the games, I feel the answer to the first question. Different viewpoints mean different perspectives I assume though.

Exactly cause I think he better suited at the point. He still more physically overmatched at 2.

[Snarly]

Why do people keep saying Rivers is better suited at point? He is just a guard at this point with hopes that he can eventually be efficient at either guard spot. At this point right now he is better suited as a 2. Point guard is still a major work in progress, but obviously they are working on it.

Am I a two-guard? Am I a one? I feel like all of those questions were answered," Rivers said. "I played best when I was a one. Moving forward, that's what I'm going to try to do. I've always played the two. I don't know what's going to happen going into the summer.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ss...ie_aus_14.html

[UptownFuz504]

Rivers = Parker, Vasquez (quicker,please go to sonic boom) =Ginobli. Davis =Duncan.


Draft a C/PG

Snag Julius Randle next year.


DyNASTY

You can't really believe this.

[Ceedee M]

If that really was the case, is Monty ready to stunt that development by bringing in another young guy to run that position for the next 4 years?

Why should Monty care? Rivers brought it on himself to enter the NBA when he wasn't ready. He stunted his own development. That is not the Pelicans' problem. Rivers just gotta compete for his job like we all gotta do in life.

[JJackisangry]

As long as Vazquez isnt in the starting lineup i couldnt give a rats *** lol. Im fine with Burke or a SF; it doesnt matter to me. I do think Rivers will be a future point; handles and quickness like his dont always come hand and hand. He needs to prove he has court vision, but I was encouraged by some of the things i saw from him at the point.

[NMThreeMVP]

I understand all the responses saying "what's wrong with Rivers being a perineal 6th man candidate"...

But I do thing here is someone wrong with the Hornets in year 1 of a rebuild drafting a player with the intent of having him develop into a 6th man. If that wasn't their intent, then knowing he was raw when they drafted him, it's baffling that they would give up on him as this teams future PG. That's essentially what they're doing if they draft/sign/trade for a PG. It strikes me as Monty draft Doc's son because of their relationship and not having a real plan for him.

I'd like to hear Monty/Dell directly answer the question of what is the plan for Austin. They can do it in the press in response to a direct question, or they can indicate it by the moves they make this summer.

My only point, it's difficult to know what this team will do without knowing how they really view Rivers.

[FlyGirl]

Maybe one day we'll find out. I don't think that day is today though.

[GESWhoseBack]

Maybe one day we'll find out. I don't think that day is today though.

Definitely not today.

[HornetGuru]

I understand all the responses saying "what's wrong with Rivers being a perineal 6th man candidate"...

But I do thing here is someone wrong with the Hornets in year 1 of a rebuild drafting a player with the intent of having him develop into a 6th man. If that wasn't their intent, then knowing he was raw when they drafted him, it's baffling that they would give up on him as this teams future PG. That's essentially what they're doing if they draft/sign/trade for a PG. It strikes me as Monty draft Doc's son because of their relationship and not having a real plan for him.

I'd like to hear Monty/Dell directly answer the question of what is the plan for Austin. They can do it in the press in response to a direct question, or they can indicate it by the moves they make this summer.

My only point, it's difficult to know what this team will do without knowing how they really view Rivers.

they didnt draft him to be a 6th man, it just appears it might be his best role, he is a combo guard and he will continue to get minutes at PG and SG and they will watch him develop and see what becomes of him. in the draft we go BPA regardless.

[GeauxPelicans]

It could be argued Lopez was our worse starter this year and should be the first one replaced.

It's tough to decide who was the worst between Vasquez, Aminu or Lopez but I think all 3 of them would b great bench players. I hope the plan is for Davis to eventually add enough weight to be our starting C, with Anderson the starting PF. Lopez would be an ideal backup 4/5 in my opinion.

[da ThRONe]

You let Rivers tell you what Rivers role should be on this team or if he should he here at all. If we do draft Burke/McCollum/Carter-Williams there's nothing Rivers has done to reserve a spot.

[Trell]

76ers (if u dont wanna count this because of bynum ok he never is healthy and will be gone this year)
celtics (would be much better with KG at PF not C)
Spurs (same as celtics but with duncan)
Cavs (varejao is never healthy)
atlanta (same as spurs and celtics but with horford)
bobcats - lopez > byombo
heat - (same as celtics, bosh is a PF)

I think it's proven they are better with him at Center

[donato]

As far as the sidetracked discussion, the difference between Aminu and Lopez is I think Lopez has already reached his ceiling while Aminu can still get better. They're both quality players (starter argument aside) with unique abilities and glaring weaknesses.

[GESWhoseBack]

As far as the sidetracked discussion, the difference between Aminu and Lopez is I think Lopez has already reached his ceiling while Aminu can still get better. They're both quality players (starter argument aside) with unique abilities and glaring weaknesses.

I agree with all of this. It just aggravates me when people always trying to upgrade GV and Chief while always giving Lopez a pass like he some top 5 center. "He was serviceable or he was efficient or he is on a cheap contract" so what! Thats just a nice way of saying he didnt suck but he not that great. he is not the starting center of a championship team so getting the center of the future should be on the list too.

[Mythrol]

they didnt draft him to be a 6th man, it just appears it might be his best role, he is a combo guard and he will continue to get minutes at PG and SG and they will watch him develop and see what becomes of him. in the draft we go BPA regardless.

Based off of what? His first season where he was gearing up to play BACKUP point only at the last minute to be forced to play STARTING SG for half the season? We saw the improvement by Rivers after Gordon came back and he started to finally get some minutes at the position he was drafted to play. We drafted a 3+ year project as was stated when we drafted him, and then what's the first thing we do? Make him go up against starting SGs. And then based off of how bad he played (which should have been expected because of the raw deal he got), now his ceiling is only a 6th man?

Dude AT BEST got half a season at the position he was drafted to play, in his first year of a multi year project but people are ready to wash their hands on his potential already. You know what I saw? A guy that could get to the rim at will and has amazing handling and speed. I see a guy that when he gains some weight and gets an NBA body he's going to be a great finisher. The fact that he showed those flashes in his first season undersided and outmatched encourages me that he has the skills needed to be a great player. Tbh, my biggest concern is that his head isn't messed up from how bad people dog him. Should he have come out? No. But he did and we drafted him and after seeing him play in the NBA I think Monty was right to want him.

[DefensiveMind]

Rivers is a PG.

[Hard'n'DaPaint]

I wish Rivers could turn into our PG of the future because of his skills (ball-handling, quickness and moves around the basket) a la Tony Parker. I truly think this his ceiling.
The thing is he was drafted for his scoring ability but he hasn't shown it much yet! I'm not worried at this point because he wasn't NBA ready. Right now he is a player that can create his own shot and dish some nice dimes at the NBA level and that's not negligible.
He has to show us what he is better suited for. I believe he could be a 1 but if he turns out being a better player of the bench creating for others and giving some lethal scoring with Ryno. I'm fine with that.

I think he deserve a chance.

I would draft Burke at 6 because he will be the BPA if he is there.

[MonsterMash]

I understand all the responses saying "what's wrong with Rivers being a perineal 6th man candidate"...

But I do thing here is someone wrong with the Hornets in year 1 of a rebuild drafting a player with the intent of having him develop into a 6th man. If that wasn't their intent, then knowing he was raw when they drafted him, it's baffling that they would give up on him as this teams future PG. That's essentially what they're doing if they draft/sign/trade for a PG. It strikes me as Monty draft Doc's son because of their relationship and not having a real plan for him.

I'd like to hear Monty/Dell directly answer the question of what is the plan for Austin. They can do it in the press in response to a direct question, or they can indicate it by the moves they make this summer.

My only point, it's difficult to know what this team will do without knowing how they really view Rivers.

I think they always wanted him to play the point eventually, and probably realized that he wasn't ready to contribute much at all early, let along having "run the team" on his plate.

Honestly I think they took him because they saw a raw kid at a position of need, one with good measurables that Monty already knew had a good head on his shoulders and would work extremely hard. That last part isn't a given ... it's what makes or breaks most guys of relatively close athleticism.

[HornetGuru]

if we draft burke him and rivers will be the same age and rivers will have a year of experience under his belt, cant wait to see them battle for the spot if we do take burke.