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Thread: Trade Rumor: EG/Lopez for Bledsoe/Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    First... It's the lottery. No matter what our odds are going in, you have no idea where the picks will end up after the ping balls sort out.

    Second... How do you assume the lottery assignments will be late? Utah will likely be worse next year if they're relying on a rookie PG and losing Milsaps and/or Jefferson. And assuming the Pelicans are going to take a dramatic leap to playoff contention is also being optimistic. Both of see picks could/should be top 10, with a ping pong balls chance of top 3.
    It doesn't matter if we own picks 3 & 4, Parker and Wiggins are the two best prospects since Lebron and any GM trading the chance to draft either one should be fired the second he makes it. How would u have felt if Demps traded Davis last year? Both Parker and Wiggins are considered better prospects, so why would any GM trade the rights to draft either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    It doesn't matter if we own picks 3 & 4, Parker and Wiggins are the two best prospects since Lebron and any GM trading the chance to draft either one should be fired the second he makes it. How would u have felt if Demps traded Davis last year? Both Parker and Wiggins are considered better prospects, so why would any GM trade the rights to draft either?
    It's a lottery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Having two picks in the lottery guarantees us a better chance of getting a top 3 pick. Nobody knows who will be picking 1st, 2nd, or 3rd until the ping pong balls do their dance.

    Why is their an assumption that we won't have both pick #1 and pick #2 if we go into the lottery with two picks?!!

    We could end up with Parker and Wiggins! ....it's a muthachuckin lottery system!

    Furthermore... Those aren't the only prospects in the 2014 draft that have all-star potential.
    Last edited by NMThreeMVP; 05-16-2013 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    It's a lottery!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Having two picks in the lottery guarantees us a better chance of getting a top 3 pick. Nobody knows who will be picking 1st, 2nd, or 3rd until the ping pong balls do their dance.

    Why is their an assumption that we won't have both pick #1 and pick #2 if we go into the lottery with two picks?!!

    We could end up with Parker and Wiggins! ....it's a muthachuckin lottery system!

    Furthermore... Those aren't the only prospects in the 2014 draft that have all-star potential.
    I know how the lottery works, but the original post that was quoted said we could package our picks and move into the top 3. There's a zero percent chance of that happening. Way to avoid the questions I asked in my last post though

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    I know how the lottery works, but the original post that was quoted said we could package our picks and move into the top 3. There's a zero percent chance of that happening. Way to avoid the questions I asked in my last post though
    You're wasting your breath. Too many video game mentalities on here.

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    http://www.clipsnation.com/2013/5/13...clipper-again#

    ClipsNation article with about 380 comments discussing this trade.

    I think Clippers fans are as torn on Eric Gordon as Pelicans fans, but I think they'd mostly do this deal. Reading comments from both fan bases, it's undeniable that this trade on paper works for both teams.

    There isnt a clear winner, but Jordan/Bledsoe seems like more than fair compensation for Gordon. Whether people want to acknowledge it or not, Gordon is a $14m per year injury risk.

    Lopez really is just a throw in. Lopez overplayed his talent this year, but I don't think that's sustainable and I think Pelicans fans believe he's worth more than he actually is. He's a serviceable center on $5m contract. Nothing special.
    Last edited by NMThreeMVP; 05-16-2013 at 07:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    It doesn't matter if we own picks 3 & 4, Parker and Wiggins are the two best prospects since Lebron and any GM trading the chance to draft either one should be fired the second he makes it. How would u have felt if Demps traded Davis last year? Both Parker and Wiggins are considered better prospects, so why would any GM trade the rights to draft either?
    do u have any idea what can happen in a season? People were saying Shabazz was the next Kobe and guaranteed #1 and didn't even know who mclemore was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
    I know how the lottery works, but the original post that was quoted said we could package our picks and move into the top 3. There's a zero percent chance of that happening. Way to avoid the questions I asked in my last post though
    WRONG on the 0% chance, u have no idea what can happen and how players will perform this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    WRONG on the 0% chance, u have no idea what can happen and how players will perform this season.
    That's true, but if that's the case, why would we WANT to trade up??? The point is, if the players are as hyped, the teams in position to draft them will NOT be trading down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    Lopez really is just a throw in. Lopez overplayed his talent this year, but I don't think that's sustainable and I think Pelicans fans believe he's worth more than he actually is. He's a serviceable center on $5m contract. Nothing special.
    Lopez is more than a throw in. He's a slightly above average starter on a very good contract. For that, he does have value around the league. As far as not being special...who ever said he was? Seriously. Find me one post that ever said that he was special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgman View Post
    With Davis still being a little too light to bang with real centers in the league, someone like Deandre could be a useful body as a better rebounder and defender than Lopez, and because of his FT shooting liability at the end of games, it would open up more 4th Q mins for the Davis Anderson front court
    Still lets say we get a center like DJ or even Al Jefferson. There have already been cases when DJ was fussing with Del Negro for not playing in the fourth quarter... And I doubt AL would want to sit out the final mins of the fourth quarter...
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    And plus with all honestly I like Ryno better starting... Did anybody notice him playing better starting rather than coming of the bench?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    That's true, but if that's the case, why would we WANT to trade up??? The point is, if the players are as hyped, the teams in position to draft them will NOT be trading down.
    because say he isnt a sure fire thing, like most players arent, we take the gamble on him and boom it pays off, just like it might this year with burke or mclemore

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    do u have any idea what can happen in a season? People were saying Shabazz was the next Kobe and guaranteed #1 and didn't even know who mclemore was.
    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    WRONG on the 0% chance, u have no idea what can happen and how players will perform this season.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nola Hornet View Post
    You're wasting your breath. Too many video game mentalities on here.

    LOL, yeah I quit. At least guru has a new best friend to throw 2k trades around

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    I never would have imagined this bad trade would go 10 pages deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    I never would have imagined this bad trade would go 10 pages deep.
    I never would have imagined this excellent trade would have so many detractors!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    I never would have imagined this bad trade would go 10 pages deep.
    You're new to the board eh? and this is just the beginning!

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    The thread has gone deep because the idea is that it could happen.

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    This thread is 10 pages because its the offseason and we are starving for any news.
    SIGN A SF

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    I actually wouldn't be totally against the trade for one reason: it gives us an identity. We rip and run.

    Jordan would be better on a team that habitually pushes the ball and gets into a running up and down game. He's a killer athlete that's kinda lost in a halfcourt setting. Ditto for Bledsoe, really. They're very out of place in LA.

    But bring them here, pair em with Davis, resign Aminu and draft an athletic 2 and all of a sudden you're looking at a team that's athletic as any in the league, that can force a lot of turnovers and rack up a bunch of points in transition. Would also be pretty stout defensively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoDatPelican View Post
    to sfernald: While you kinda sold me on the trade i'll be honest (do you also sell volcano insurance?) .... i thought of one thing...

    If DJ can't excel with CP3 running point.... what makes you think here with Bledsoe would be better?
    You have a point about Del Negro but can't put too much on him. Players play... I think Del Negro AND Jordan are equally turrible.
    Jordan's very limited in a halfcourt offense, and while CP3 is a magician, he likes to play a slow down halfcourt game. He's a lot better than Bledsoe, but Bledsoe's more apt to push the ball and try and turn the game into a fast break fest. Jordan probably torments most centers by beating them down the floor in that type of game.

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    bledsoe
    rivers
    otto porter
    ryno
    davis

    this lineup worth a damn?

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    Harrison Barnes - 6"6.25 tall, 39.5 inch vertical 8'5.5" standing reach
    Shabazz Muhamad - 6"8 tall, 37 inch vertical 8'8.5" standing reach

    Harrison Barnes - 101.5 + 39.5 = 141 max jumping height
    Shabazz Muhamad - 104.5 + 37 = 141.5 max jumping height

    Looks like bazz can get half an inch higher than barnes, guess we can give the bazz cant play SF thing a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    Harrison Barnes - 6"6.25 tall, 39.5 inch vertical 8'5.5" standing reach
    Shabazz Muhamad - 6"8 tall, 37 inch vertical 8'8.5" standing reach

    Harrison Barnes - 101.5 + 39.5 = 141 max jumping height
    Shabazz Muhamad - 104.5 + 37 = 141.5 max jumping height

    Looks like bazz can get half an inch higher than barnes, guess we can give the bazz cant play SF thing a rest.
    Since when is Bazz 6"8'?

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    Since when hornetguru lives in wonderland

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    do u have any idea what can happen in a season? People were saying Shabazz was the next Kobe and guaranteed #1 and didn't even know who mclemore was.
    Yeah, I don't buy that either are better prospects than Anthony Davis. And let's not forget Kevin Durant, Greg Oden, & Dwight Howard in that mix between now and LeBron.

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