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Thread: Trade Rumor: EG/Lopez for Bledsoe/Jordan

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    Assuming we did the trade with Clippers:

    Bledsoe/Vasquez
    Rivers/Green
    Miller
    Davis/Anderson
    Jordan/Smith

    ...Followed by moving down with Utah, we'd have three picks and a lot of money over the next 2 years.

    What do you target with those picks and that cap space? The need is clearly at SG and SF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    Assuming we did the trade with Clippers:

    Bledsoe/Vasquez
    Rivers/Green
    Miller
    Davis/Anderson
    Jordan/Smith

    ...Followed by moving down with Utah, we'd have three picks and a lot of money over the next 2 years.



    What do you target with those picks and that cap space? The need is clearly at SG and SF.
    With that line-up we'd be in the lottery on an annual basis. If we're giving up Gordon, we for damn sure need a better option than Rivers at SG and Miller at SF plus the picks from the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UptownFuz504 View Post
    With that line-up we'd be in the lottery on an annual basis
    It's more of an obvious long-term way to do things, but I wouldn't be opposed at all if done correctly.

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    Tbh I don't know why ppl keep trying to get a center... For what reason?? All that does is take mins away from Ryno... I would rather prefer the AD and Ryno as the starting front court
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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    Assuming we did the trade with Clippers:

    Bledsoe/Vasquez
    Rivers/Green
    Miller
    Davis/Anderson
    Jordan/Smith

    ...Followed by moving down with Utah, we'd have three picks and a lot of money over the next 2 years.

    What do you target with those picks and that cap space? The need is clearly at SG and SF.
    i would take either archie goodwin or kaldwell pope and with the 2nd pick take dario saric or giannis, then next year package our 1st and utah's first to get into the top 3 and land wiggins or parker, then u are set with a championship talented team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler View Post
    Tbh I don't know why ppl keep trying to get a center... For what reason?? All that does is take mins away from Ryno... I would rather prefer the AD and Ryno as the starting front court
    With Davis still being a little too light to bang with real centers in the league, someone like Deandre could be a useful body as a better rebounder and defender than Lopez, and because of his FT shooting liability at the end of games, it would open up more 4th Q mins for the Davis Anderson front court
    never assume

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgman View Post
    With Davis still being a little too light to bang with real centers in the league, someone like Deandre could be a useful body as a better rebounder and defender than Lopez, and because of his FT shooting liability at the end of games, it would open up more 4th Q mins for the Davis Anderson front court
    exactly, deandre's contract is only 2 years, if he doesnt develop we could trade him after that or even trade him after a year as a huge expiring contract.

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    ...after this trade we could sign Corey Brewer or Martell Webster at SF...and still have space for a max deal.

    I like it.

    It also wouldn't surprise me at all if we made a run at Kevin Martin offering a 2 year deal. Or Tony Allen.
    Last edited by NMThreeMVP; 05-15-2013 at 11:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP View Post
    ...after this trade we could sign Corey Brewer or Martell Webster at SF...and still have space for a max deal.

    I like it.

    It also wouldn't surprise me at all if we made a run at Kevin Martin offering a 2 year deal. Or Tony Allen.
    i wouldnt wanna give anyone past their prime a contract, only short expensive 2 year deals for players who have a lot of potential like tyreke evans, chase budinger, or someone like that, but i love the deal, its gives us our PG and a center who expires in 2 years, cap space and we still have draft picks to improve, we could maybe luckout and get a very good SG this year and SF next year. if we could get mclemore this year and someone like wiggins, parker, randle next year, we would be set. We are in such good shape, not to mention the cap space we will have.

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    This trade actually makes a lot of sense for the Pels. They move Gordon's contract, pick-up Bledsoe, and create an extremely athletic front-curt with Davis and Jordan.

    If they draft Oladipo, they could have one of the most athletic starting 5s in the league. Very Denver Nuggets-esque. They could even potentially grab a guy like Brandon Rush in FA.

    They could role out a starting 5 of:

    PG: Bledsoe, Vasquez
    SG; Oladipo, Rivers
    SF: Rush, Miller
    PF: Davis, Anderson
    C: Jordan, Smith

    They could even go small with:

    PG: Bledsoe
    SG: Rivers
    SF: Oladipo
    PF: Anderson
    C: Davis

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    Has anyone actually watched DJ play? He is a horrific basketball player. What's up with the TC comparisons? Other than their mutual post ineptness, such a conversation should not take place. Sure he's athletic, but what else does he do? Jesus, the man gets 10M per and Del Negro doesn't even trust him on the floor at the end of games...

    Completely horrible trade. And I haven't even touched on the Gordon aspect. We're giving up the best player in the deal for a below average, overpaid C and an overrated, soon to be overpaid PG.

    No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PelsFan2313 View Post
    Has anyone actually watched DJ play? He is a horrific basketball player. What's up with the TC comparisons? Other than their mutual post ineptness, such a conversation should not take place. Sure he's athletic, but what else does he do? Jesus, the man gets 10M per and Del Negro doesn't even trust him on the floor at the end of games...

    Completely horrible trade. And I haven't even touched on the Gordon aspect. We're giving up the best player in the deal for a below average, overpaid C and an overrated, soon to be overpaid PG.

    No thanks.
    People have totally convinced themselves that Gordon is a cancer and doesn't want to be here so they'll throw him in any deal. I'd trade him but I'd have to get better or at least not worse after the trade. This team doesn't need anymore potential or projects. This team needs impact players. Rookies and projects aren't going to cut it.

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    People are going off on DeAndre, but Tyson Chandler was awful with the Bulls. Sometimes players need a change of scenery. You have to gamble on players at times. Jordan has the ability to be a better Chandler.
    Last edited by da ThRONe; 05-16-2013 at 07:05 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    i would take either archie goodwin or kaldwell pope and with the 2nd pick take dario saric or giannis, then next year package our 1st and utah's first to get into the top 3 and land wiggins or parker, then u are set with a championship talented team.

    I hope you don't actually think that a team would trade us Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker for 2 late lottery picks. If you do, well nevermind, I know you think that could happen.

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    I'm a gambler too. A deal like this ain't out of the question. I still hope we can pawn DJ off on another team though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    I'm a gambler too. A deal like this ain't out of the question. I still hope we can pawn DJ off on another team though.
    So long as we don't have to give up any assets just take on his contract it's worth it IMO. Especially if we deal Gordon's contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
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    I hope you don't actually think that a team would trade us Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker for 2 late lottery picks. If you do, well nevermind, I know you think that could happen.
    We could throw in those two lottery picks, our 2015 first rounder and a player....and the trade still wouldn't be accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans View Post
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    I hope you don't actually think that a team would trade us Andrew Wiggins or Jabari Parker for 2 late lottery picks. If you do, well nevermind, I know you think that could happen.
    First... It's the lottery. No matter what our odds are going in, you have no idea where the picks will end up after the ping balls sort out.

    Second... How do you assume the lottery assignments will be late? Utah will likely be worse next year if they're relying on a rookie PG and losing Milsaps and/or Jefferson. And assuming the Pelicans are going to take a dramatic leap to playoff contention is also being optimistic. Both of see picks could/should be top 10, with a ping pong balls chance of top 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UptownFuz504 View Post
    People have totally convinced themselves that Gordon is a cancer and doesn't want to be here so they'll throw him in any deal. I'd trade him but I'd have to get better or at least not worse after the trade. This team doesn't need anymore potential or projects. This team needs impact players. Rookies and projects aren't going to cut it.
    Some people are also convinced that Gordon is the next D Wade. Truthfully, Gordon is still a project based on his lack of leadership development and his inability to stay healthy and be dependable for his teammates and coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PelsFan2313 View Post
    Has anyone actually watched DJ play? He is a horrific basketball player. What's up with the TC comparisons? Other than their mutual post ineptness, such a conversation should not take place. Sure he's athletic, but what else does he do? Jesus, the man gets 10M per and Del Negro doesn't even trust him on the floor at the end of games...

    Completely horrible trade. And I haven't even touched on the Gordon aspect. We're giving up the best player in the deal for a below average, overpaid C and an overrated, soon to be overpaid PG.

    No thanks.
    Gordon might be the most overpaid young player in the league. If we can sign Bledsoe in a year for less than what we're paying Gordon and get 82 games and improvement out of him it's a win.

    24 year old Tyson Chandler was not any better than 24 year old Deandre Jordan. In fact, Tyson Chandler was a free row liability with no offensive game other than ally oops even during his best season with the Hornets.

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    The best thing this team can do, in my opinion is KEEP GORDON, draft Burke and sign Martell Webster. PLAYOFFS and still have cap space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sting View Post
    The best thing this team can do, in my opinion is KEEP GORDON, draft Burke and sign Martell Webster. PLAYOFFS and still have cap space.
    If I had any confidence at all, or believed the coaches and his teammates had confidence, that Gordon would be reliable and develop D.Wade's leadership and talent, then I'd be 100% on board with that plan.

    But he's getting paid $14+ million for the next three years and I'd rather give Bledsoe 2/3 of that salary than to gamble on a work in progress like Gordon.

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    This is obviously a joke, Right? The first thing that pops into my mind is that Gordon and Kamen were pertty shocked and blind-sided by the trade to New Orleans. Second iirc the original NO/LAC trade centered around Paul/Bledsoe (with other stuff thrown in). The clippers said no to giving up Bledsoe and threw in Gordon as a replacement. NOW we couldn't get Bledsoe for Paul but we're going to get Bledsoe for Gordon (who the clippers gave us for Paul)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Davisistheman View Post
    This is obviously a joke, Right? The first thing that pops into my mind is that Gordon and Kamen were pertty shocked and blind-sided by the trade to New Orleans. Second iirc the original NO/LAC trade centered around Paul/Bledsoe (with other stuff thrown in). The clippers said no to giving up Bledsoe and threw in Gordon as a replacement. NOW we couldn't get Bledsoe for Paul but we're going to get Bledsoe for Gordon (who the clippers gave us for Paul)

    that is why this trade is completely theoretical to me, no way do i see it actually happening, just an interesting idea tho, I am still on the fence about whether I would take it or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davisistheman View Post
    This is obviously a joke, Right? The first thing that pops into my mind is that Gordon and Kamen were pertty shocked and blind-sided by the trade to New Orleans. Second iirc the original NO/LAC trade centered around Paul/Bledsoe (with other stuff thrown in). The clippers said no to giving up Bledsoe and threw in Gordon as a replacement. NOW we couldn't get Bledsoe for Paul but we're going to get Bledsoe for Gordon (who the clippers gave us for Paul)
    They wouldn't give us Gordon and Bledsoe. We (David Stern) chose Gordon. They were amenable to giving up Gordon partially because he was an impending restricted free agent. Same reason why they might be willing to trade their backup point guard (Bledsoe) for a player that's under contract and fills their biggest need (Gordon).

    Knowing what we know now, does anyone doubt that Demps/Monty might have preferred to have received Bledsoe over Gordon in that trade?

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