Amico: Ownership has informed Dumars to trade Zion

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Bombs away!

https://x.com/AmicoHoops/status/1912174117693882741

Report: Pelicans ownership will mandate Joe Dumars to trade Zion Williamson

[Speakthetruth]

It really depends on what they got. 0 interest in an Ingram trade package

[Pelicanidae]

Shamit reporting that Dumars doesnt want to just trade Zion and instead wants a chance to actually talk to him personally before making any decisions.

So either the mandate to trade was never that strong, or Dumars is perfectly willing to push back. Either is fine.

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What a circus! They tell a media member one thing then tell another something different. Glad everyone is on the same page.

[Pelicanidae]

What a circus! They tell a media member one thing then tell another something different. Glad everyone is on the same page.

Well if you read Amico's article, the first thing he says is that his source is Shamit. So it's not really the Pels telling different media different things, it's more than Amico is just aggregating old news and hasn't yet caught up to the new reports.

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Well if you read Amico's article, the first thing he says is that his source is Shamit. So it's not really the Pels telling different media different things, it's more than Amico is just aggregating old news and hasn't yet caught up to the new reports.

Yes a 60 year old man that eats lots of popcorn will convince him to stay in shape year round and develop a jump shot

[Pelicanidae]

Yes a 60 year old man that eats lots of popcorn will convince him to stay in shape year round and develop a jump shot

Yeah, absolutely nobody said that but glad to see that despite my recent general absence from the board you're still running the classic non-sequiturs. Ol' reliable.

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Yeah, absolutely nobody said that but glad to see that despite my recent general absence from the board you're still running the classic non-sequiturs. Ol' reliable.

Dumars getting hired is a fact . We just got worse. Don’t really matter what happens to Zion now.

[Darkhorse985]

Dumars getting hired is a fact . We just got worse. Don’t really matter what happens to Zion now.

The sad truth…

[P_B_&_G]

Some people can't wait to see people fired. Just remember that things can always be worse. I'm going back to my wait and see approach. Maybe Joe figures it out this time.

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Some people can't wait to see people fired. Just remember that things can always be worse. I'm going back to my wait and see approach. Maybe Joe figures it out this time.

He is already working the phones . Love the computer screen. Maybe he got the trade machine working or fixing our sim league machine.

[Pelicanidae]

Dumars getting hired is a fact . We just got worse. Don’t really matter what happens to Zion now.

Yeah again, at no point did I dispute that Dumars has been hired, nor have I suggested that that's a good thing. Everyone dislikes the Dumars hire. Even if it ends up being fine (which I don't think it will, personally) the process they took to get to it was awful.

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I hear he is signing Marcus Thornton! The comeback tour!

[P_B_&_G]

He is already working the phones . Love the computer screen. Maybe he got the trade machine working or fixing our sim league machine.

At least it's an actual computer and not a binder like Ed O had. And O won a chip. In fact Dumars has one as a GM as well. Maybe he catches lightning in a bottle twice? I'm choosing to be optimistic.

[P_B_&_G]

I hear he is signing Marcus Thornton! The comeback tour!

Nah, he's looking to sign Sheed and Ben Wallace.

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Shamit reporting that Dumars doesnt want to just trade Zion and instead wants a chance to actually talk to him personally before making any decisions.

So either the mandate to trade was never that strong, or Dumars is perfectly willing to push back. Either is fine.

Or there is a mandate to trade but Dumars is trying to gain a little leverage by saying he's open to keeping him.

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At least it's an actual computer and not a binder like Ed O had. And O won a chip. In fact Dumars has one as a GM as well. Maybe he catches lightning in a bottle twice? I'm choosing to be optimistic.

https://intheno.substack.com/p/pelic...snt-joe-dumars

Shamit just telling you like it is

[P_B_&_G]

https://intheno.substack.com/p/pelic...snt-joe-dumars

Shamit just telling you like it is

Yeah, it's pretty bad. I don't think things can get much worse though. We are pretty much at the bottom right now. That also doesn't mean things will get better though. But again, I'll wait and see becasue we can't do anything else anyway. I most certainly won't be paying for anything team related until they can show some movement in the right direction. Same with the Saints.

[fullcourtpress]

Bull********. Management wouldn't do that publicly because it kills his trade value. There's no doubt he's our best player; he was never more unstoppable than the end of this year, I know he has rarely played, but he has never looked so good. Why suffer through his immature years and trade him as he starts to mature? Plus, how do you lure a GM and tell him what to do with the most important decision he has to make.

BTW I saw that zion has been double-teamed more than any other player since they started tracking it in 2014. certainly, Dumars will consider keeping him

[Fedupfan]

Bull********. Management wouldn't do that publicly because it kills his trade value. There's no doubt he's our best player; he was never more unstoppable than the end of this year, I know he has rarely played, but he has never looked so good. Why suffer through his immature years and trade him as he starts to mature? Plus, how do you lure a GM and tell him what to do with the most important decision he has to make.

BTW I saw that zion has been double-teamed more than any other player since they started tracking it in 2014. certainly, Dumars will consider keeping him

Should not only consider keeping him, but should do as much as possible to focus on everything to keep him locked in. Should even consult him about roster direction.

[Silverfoxx]

Bull********. Management wouldn't do that publicly because it kills his trade value. There's no doubt he's our best player; he was never more unstoppable than the end of this year, I know he has rarely played, but he has never looked so good. Why suffer through his immature years and trade him as he starts to mature? Plus, how do you lure a GM and tell him what to do with the most important decision he has to make.

BTW I saw that zion has been double-teamed more than any other player since they started tracking it in 2014. certainly, Dumars will consider keeping him

It's because Gayle doesn't like his off the court baby mamma drama ********. She likes clean cut choir boys like Carr, Watson, Payton, Kamera.....oh wait.

[RobertM320]

I'm just a normal fan, and don't really get into the details of team building, etc, but I have a question.

It was always said that Zion and Ingram didn't fit together well. Suppose we were to end up with Cooper Flagg. How would he fit with Zion? Honest question.

[P_B_&_G]

I'm just a normal fan, and don't really get into the details of team building, etc, but I have a question.

It was always said that Zion and Ingram didn't fit together well. Suppose we were to end up with Cooper Flagg. How would he fit with Zion? Honest question.

I dont know anything about Flagg but the thought is that Ingram occupied too much of the same space as Zion with all the midrange shots he liked. Ideally you would want someone that can hit the three on spot ups at a high rate as well. I thought Ingram and Z could coexist. We just never got to see it on the court. It's tragic really.

[Jabberwalker]

Bull********. Management wouldn't do that publicly because it kills his trade value. There's no doubt he's our best player; he was never more unstoppable than the end of this year, I know he has rarely played, but he has never looked so good. Why suffer through his immature years and trade him as he starts to mature? Plus, how do you lure a GM and tell him what to do with the most important decision he has to make.

BTW I saw that zion has been double-teamed more than any other player since they started tracking it in 2014. certainly, Dumars will consider keeping him

Counterpoint, they don't care and are too stupid to consider ramifications. The reporting that there is a push to trade Zion is from the same sources that broke the insider knowledge of Griffin leaving so it's pretty reliable. This ownership and leadership in the organization has shown time and again they have no idea what's going on or what's best for the franchise.

[fullcourtpress]

to illustrate how below value we'd get for trading zion consider: points per minute
it's literally a who's who in basketball
and he's freaggin third

just cause of a couple disgruntled, loud beaches gotta act up/ we got no need overreacting




SGA
Giannis
zion
Jokic
Doncic
Embid
L Ball
Morant
C Thomas
S Curry
D. Mitchell
A Edwards
Cd Cunningham
Banchero
J Jackson
A Davis
Tatum
Brunson
Wembanya
Durant
F Wagner
Labron James
ect