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Thread: So the Lakers got Luka for Anthony Davis?!

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    They can't keep getting away with it! Somebody was holding a gun to the Dallas GM's head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvdman View Post
    The Mavericks GM and owner need to be drug tested, that's the only way to make any sense of this trade.
    I wouldn't trade any player for Anthony " I'm hurt again" Davis. This is just so baffling. Luka is 25 and Davis 32, that alone makes it a horrible trade.
    Something is missing here and I'm sure it will come our sooner or later.
    Luka is now ineligible for the super max. Would have been worth like 385 million or something. Could have just been a financial deal.

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    Here's the supermax info...


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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    It's cool to have differing opinions.. but it's dishonest to to frame it around bad context. This post said "aging center".. Without mentioning that AD is one of the best big men in the league, and will continue to be for at least 4 to 5 more years. He's also an NBA champion, and centerpiece to a championship squad. Short, term.. Mavs are better than the Lakers as of right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    Here's the supermax info...

    I don't think he'll be the last superstar this happens to. We already see it happening with All-stars, and fringe all-stars.

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    REPORT: The Dallas Mavericks gave Luka Doncic an 11-day excused absence in late November to ‘shed weight after he had ballooned into the high 260s,’ according to Tim MacMahon of ESPN.

    This.. and the amount of money he was about to demand is why he got moved. All the breadcrumbs lead to this conclusion. Not some grand conspiracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    The NBA want to be the NFL. The problem is they don't have Taylor Swift bringing in her massive fanbase to the sport. There was clearly foul play involved in this trade. Is it a last ditch attempt by the NBA to drum up revenue? It makes no sense. Regardless of your thoughts on both of these players and their ages, this trade makes no sense. Dallas could have gotten far more. Anthony is a great player that doesn't thread the needle and he is only getting older.

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    Yeah. You can make some rational arguments as to why the Mavs would trade the guy but for him to go straight to the Lakers without first drumming up a massive bidding war?

    Unless the other teams come out and say they were offered Luka and passed (which we all know didn't happen) it's clear the league was involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    Yeah. You can make some rational arguments as to why the Mavs would trade the guy but for him to go straight to the Lakers without first drumming up a massive bidding war?

    Unless the other teams come out and say they were offered Luka and passed (which we all know didn't happen) it's clear the league was involved.
    Yep. Very strange one. I can't rationalize it any which way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    Yeah. You can make some rational arguments as to why the Mavs would trade the guy but for him to go straight to the Lakers without first drumming up a massive bidding war?

    Unless the other teams come out and say they were offered Luka and passed (which we all know didn't happen) it's clear the league was involved.
    Wrong boss.. They contacted two other teams before the Lakers. Rob and Nico were in contact regarding Luka for over 2 weeks before the deal was done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Wrong boss.. They contacted two other teams before the Lakers. Rob and Nico were in contact regarding Luka for over 2 weeks before the deal was done.
    That in no way makes it any better of a deal. I don't buy the conspiracy theory stuff though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Wrong boss.. They contacted two other teams before the Lakers. Rob and Nico were in contact regarding Luka for over 2 weeks before the deal was done.
    You keep saying that they contacted 2 other teams. Please point me to your source on this because I haven’t heard that anywhere else. And even if it is true, when you trade a top 5 player in the league, you maximize your return by opening the bidding to ALL the teams in the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pr1840 View Post
    You keep saying that they contacted 2 other teams. Please point me to your source on this because I haven’t heard that anywhere else. And even if it is true, when you trade a top 5 player in the league, you maximize your return by opening the bidding to ALL the teams in the NBA.
    It's on Sports Illustrated, and Bleacher Report. Do a google search.. "Mavs contacted two other teams before the Lakers for Luka". There are many sources. The fact that this happened throws the Lakers conspiracy right out of the window. One team flat out rejected Luka.
    Last edited by Nichols; 02-04-2025 at 03:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    That in no way makes it any better of a deal. I don't buy the conspiracy theory stuff though.
    Again.. You're not getting Giannis, Joker, SGA, Tatum, or Wemby.. On any given night AD can be as good as, or better than all those players. There is no combination of players I'd want over AD outside of the ones I just mentioned.

    You don't typically get all-NBA talent when trading franchise players. That's exactly what the Mavs got with AD.

    There's no point in creating a bidding war with teams that have assets they don't want. They wanted AD, that's what they got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Again.. You're not getting Giannis, Joker, SGA, Tatum, or Wemby.. On any given night AD can be as good as, or better than all those players. There is no combination of players I'd want over AD outside of the ones I just mentioned.

    You don't typically get all-NBA talent when trading franchise players. That's exactly what the Mavs got with AD.

    There's no point in creating a bidding war with teams that have assets they don't want. They wanted AD, that's what they got.
    The bottom line is the Mavs got a worse player who is six years older. All the while losing a franchise fan favorite. There's a reason the sports world is calling it one of, if not the worst trade in the history of sports and Mavs fans have their pitchforks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    The bottom line is the Mavs got a worse player who is six years older. All the while losing a franchise fan favorite. There's a reason the sports world is calling it one of, if not the worst trade in the history of sports and Mavs fans have their pitchforks.
    Again.. many of you are being dishonest and finagling context to push your narrative. They're saying it's the most shocking trade in history, not worst. They're also saying the Mavs are better than the Lakers after this trade. Let's lay truth out on the table and make our arguments with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Again.. many of you are being dishonest and finagling context to push your narrative. They're saying it's the most shocking trade in history, not worst. They're also saying the Mavs are better than the Lakers after this trade. Let's lay truth out on the table and make our arguments with that.
    The Mavs are arguably better this year. But it's a very dumb trade for the long term. If you want to be that 5% guy that thinks it's a good trade for the Mavs, then ok, but the vast majority agree the Mavs got taken to the woodshed on this deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    The Mavs are arguably better this year. But it's a very dumb trade for the long term. If you want to be that 5% guy that thinks it's a good trade for the Mavs, then ok, but the vast majority agree the Mavs got taken to the woodshed on this deal.
    You keep misquoting, and omitting context. It's not an honest way to have an exchange. I'm not saying it's a good trade. I simply stated that there was no conspiracy, and it's not a lopsided trade.

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    This sort of thing happens.. As I said before, Shaq and Kobe didn't get along because Kobe didn't like how undisciplined he was. Shaq even said he'd come into the season out of shape because he knew Kobe would carry him during the season. Lakers didn't want to pay Shaq, and traded him. They didn't get equal value of course. They couldn't get Shaq to change his habits. Coaches get fired when they can't reach players and get them to change habits. We've seen this many times. Phil left the Lakers stating that the players are no longer listening. Zion is an example of a player that can't be influenced to alter his habits. Ingram to an extent, has had trouble altering his playstyle. The team doesn't want to pay him. He's on the trading block, along with Zion. Iverson, and Carmelo both refused to buy in and found themselves out of the league. Carmelo worked on his 3, and found a lane back into the league.

    Players can be stubborn, and difficult to work with. Especially some franchise players. Luka stands out because of how prolific he is at such a young age. With that being said it's the same situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    You keep misquoting, and omitting context. It's not an honest way to have an exchange. I'm not saying it's a good trade. I simply stated that there was no conspiracy, and it's not a lopsided trade.
    I'm not saying it's a conspiracy either. But yes, it is an incredibly lopsided trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    I'm not saying it's a conspiracy either. But yes, it is an incredibly lopsided trade.
    I don't think you can characterize a trade with AD in it for Luka as lopsided, given their production on both sides of the court. And, considering AD has about 5 more years of prime play left. Also considering he can look like a top 3 player in the league on any given night, and outplay the best player in the league on any given night. I can understand why you feel that way though.
    Last edited by Nichols; 02-04-2025 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    I don't think you can characterize a trade with AD in it for Luka as lopsided, given their production on both sides of the court. And, considering AD has about 5 more years of prime play left. Also considering he can look like a top 3 player in the league on any given night, and outplay the best player in the league on any given night. I can understand why you feel that way though.
    That's fine. Most don't share that opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    That's fine. Most don't share that opinion.
    Actually many do. When AD is on he's said to be a top 5 player or 10, in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nichols View Post
    Actually many do. When AD is on he's said to be a top 5 player or 10, in the league.
    Sure, I suppose if you don't have the internet and don't talk to people, a lot think it was a reasonable trade.

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