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    Pistol Pete Would Be Proud!! donato's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    Don't get your hopes up.

    MAY NOT PLAY
    G J. Clarkson OUT
    F J. Collins OUT
    G J. Juzang OUT
    F L. Markkanen OUT
    C M. Potter OUT
    G C. Sexton OUT

    Jazz know how to tank properly...
    I'm aware. Like I said, a "chance" to lose.

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    Yves also out. Let's eat that L!

  3. #28
    Dejounte cool but I rather have a pg who gets others involved.

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    booooooooooooo.

    Pelicans play a good team Wednesday which means you can see CJ get his 3 for 21 stat line.

  5. #30
    4 in a row now, oh my.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markid View Post
    4 in a row now, oh my.
    There's a theme emerging. Get the Bucks game and that's 8 of 10.

  7. #32
    So, I think Joel said that was the largest comeback win in franchise history. This is definitely the strangest season ever.

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    Pelicans were favored by 11. Should have never been down by 25. Needed a CJ superman game to pull it out.

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    It's weird but I get more and more disgusted the better we play because I really do think we could be contenders if ever fully healthy....and New Orleans has done nothing to solve its injury issues.

    Marques Colston tried to tell everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    There's a theme emerging. Get the Bucks game and that's 8 of 10.
    Like I said. With Zion and Trey back, we're too good to be truly miserable.
    Basketball.

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    Its kind of tragic. You want your team to win and be watchable. But winning is quite possibly the worst thing we can do right now. If Green keeps his job, that would be a disaster. If we keep Zion for another season and he gets injured again, it's another catastrophe. We either need to get good enough so that we can win games without him or we have to trade him. Green absolutely needs to go. ? On Zion but I personally think he is too risky to bet on without serious load management and better coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    Pelicans were favored by 11. Should have never been down by 25. Needed a CJ superman game to pull it out.
    Pels life

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    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    It's weird but I get more and more disgusted the better we play because I really do think we could be contenders if ever fully healthy....and New Orleans has done nothing to solve its injury issues.

    Marques Colston tried to tell everybody.
    I still think this is the most talent this franchise has ever had outside maybe going back to Zo and LJ in Charlotte if we can even count that anymore.

    The availability problems are mind numbing.

  14. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Like I said. With Zion and Trey back, we're too good to be truly miserable.
    For sure. I still want them to get fully healthy for about 20 to 30 games to see what the potential actually was/is. At this point I could care less about draft positioning since we aren't going to have a shot at Flagg. Griff has proven he can draft well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    Its kind of tragic. You want your team to win and be watchable. But winning is quite possibly the worst thing we can do right now. If Green keeps his job, that would be a disaster. If we keep Zion for another season and he gets injured again, it's another catastrophe. We either need to get good enough so that we can win games without him or we have to trade him. Green absolutely needs to go. ? On Zion but I personally think he is too risky to bet on without serious load management and better coaching.
    This is the downside to getting healthy and playing well down the stretch.

  16. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    Its kind of tragic. You want your team to win and be watchable. But winning is quite possibly the worst thing we can do right now. If Green keeps his job, that would be a disaster. If we keep Zion for another season and he gets injured again, it's another catastrophe. We either need to get good enough so that we can win games without him or we have to trade him. Green absolutely needs to go. ? On Zion but I personally think he is too risky to bet on without serious load management and better coaching.
    Whatever the case is, unless you're going into a full full rebuild, it's too late imo.

    Can't move BI. Permanently injured himself, contract expiring, wants a max and has been clearly holding out for it (though maybe the injury will make his team understand they have to take a prove it deal? idk), and isn't good enough to justify dealing with all of that. He's good, to be clear, but not good enough to justify it.

    Can't move Zion. He is good enough to justify dealing with stuff when healthy, but he's even more permanently injured than BI. Biggest risk does bring potentially bigger reward, but if you move the assets to get him and it doesn't work out that's probably your job. No GM is going to want to do it unless he's a steal, and if he's a steal, we might as well keep him.

    Can't move CJ. Too old, contract too short, value isn't that high and he's valuable to the team's chemistry.

    Don't want to move Herb or Trey or Missi.

    What can you do? The time to make the change was a year ago, when BI had a full year remaining on his deal and it was becoming clear that he was going to need moving.

    And they're not going to fire Green when they signed him to a clandestine extension just last year.

    Team's screwed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Whatever the case is, unless you're going into a full full rebuild, it's too late imo.

    Can't move BI. Permanently injured himself, contract expiring, wants a max and has been clearly holding out for it (though maybe the injury will make his team understand they have to take a prove it deal? idk), and isn't good enough to justify dealing with all of that. He's good, to be clear, but not good enough to justify it.

    Can't move Zion. He is good enough to justify dealing with stuff when healthy, but he's even more permanently injured than BI. Biggest risk does bring potentially bigger reward, but if you move the assets to get him and it doesn't work out that's probably your job. No GM is going to want to do it unless he's a steal, and if he's a steal, we might as well keep him.

    Can't move CJ. Too old, contract too short, value isn't that high and he's valuable to the team's chemistry.

    Don't want to move Herb or Trey or Missi.

    What can you do? The time to make the change was a year ago, when BI had a full year remaining on his deal and it was becoming clear that he was going to need moving.

    And they're not going to fire Green when they signed him to a clandestine extension just last year.

    Team's screwed.
    All we can really do is hold out hope the team finds a way to have a healthy season. I saw a report a couple days ago saying not to be surprised if Ingram resigns in the off season after testing the market. Looks like this will be the team for at least another year so praying for good health is the only way to see significant change.

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    Wondering if the game tomorrow will be postponed. In case you aren't local the pic above is the current situation in South Louisiana.

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    10 games out of that last play-in spot now. So made up like 4 games in the last couple weeks.

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    ill chuck if we miss out on generational talent in the draft because we won a few "feel good" games

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    I saw a report a couple days ago saying not to be surprised if Ingram resigns in the off season after testing the market.
    Resigns? Sure, I see it. For what, is the question.

    Griffin has given me no reason to trust him. He'll bid against himself and while he won't give BI the max (because that would hurt his ego after holding out for a year against doing so) he'll give him more than he's worth ($40m a year or more) and announce it as a good deal when it's not.

  22. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Resigns? Sure, I see it. For what, is the question.

    Griffin has given me no reason to trust him. He'll bid against himself and while he won't give BI the max (because that would hurt his ego after holding out for a year against doing so) he'll give him more than he's worth ($40m a year or more) and announce it as a good deal when it's not.
    I'll have to look for it but they (I think it was Stein) were saying they tried to sign him to an extension in the 40 mil per range. That he was looking for a max but him and his camp are realizing the market isn't there for him. So we will likely resign him in that 40 mil per range.

    Like I said, I would expect a trade to get under the tax but other than that I would bet on running it back again next year. Ingram will be much more tradable on a long deal at a non max price point.

    What do you think he's worth? What should his next deal look like that's decent value while recognizing the talent that he has?

  23. #48
    cooper Flagg is the only generational talent, the rest are merely good and drop off significantly.

  24. #49
    Zion out against Memphis

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    Quote Originally Posted by markid View Post
    Zion out against Memphis
    We are blatantly tanking, but that’s ok. Need to move CJ to appropriately tank.

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