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  1. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    There's not a player or a coach on the team (or any team) that wants to lose. None of the players or coaches benefit from a high draft pick, only the franchise and the front office (if they retain their jobs, which, in our case, they should not).
    Teams do tank intentionally. Most don't as their is pride on the line for both the HC and the players, but you can tank with bad lineups and stupid plays. I remember a certain Warriors team literally blew a wide open bucket just to ensure another loss. It happens.

  2. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    There's not a player or a coach on the team (or any team) that wants to lose. None of the players or coaches benefit from a high draft pick, only the franchise and the front office (if they retain their jobs, which, in our case, they should not).
    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-the-nba-again

    As long as Willie or Gayle don’t talk about it. Tank on!
    Last edited by 13 - 3; 12-23-2024 at 01:51 PM.

  3. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    There's not a player or a coach on the team (or any team) that wants to lose. None of the players or coaches benefit from a high draft pick, only the franchise and the front office (if they retain their jobs, which, in our case, they should not).
    For a guy that has a serious injury ( Supposedly!) he has a funny way of showing it



    Notice there are no more 2 week updates on his status. Nothing.

  4. #29
    Maybe the injuries are all an elaborate organizational ploy to stockpile talent? The master plan is to unleash a ludicrous team on the NBA. Stealth tanking if you will.

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    Trade everyone not named Murphy, Herb or Missi. Trade Zion for a hot sausage po boy (fully dressed or no deal). We're gonna trade BI anyway. Send Dejaunte somewhere and get something back from a team that needs a PG. CJ can get you back something. I'd keep Hawk too but if he's a throw-in to get a sweet return then Hawk can go too. The team we have now is not a playoff contender let alone a title contender regardless of the head coach.

    Griff has to go but he just got an extension... so he needs to hire somebody that can rebuild this thing correctly.

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    Gayle doesn't even know she has a basketball team. Nobody has heard from her or Griffin in months. Joke of a team. I'm out until they get rid of this whole clown car. Willie, Griff, and Zion. BI is already gone after the season so no use even mentioning him.

    Griffin had a fully loaded war chest and in year 6 of his tenure we have NEVER even made the playoffs. The "play-in" is an attempt by the league to keep people with trash teams interested until the end of the season, so that doesn't even count.

    This team is competing with the Wizards for worst in the league, and Gayle Benson is an absentee owner who knows nothing about sports. There is no hope unless she sells.

  7. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ragincaucasian View Post
    Gayle doesn't even know she has a basketball team. Nobody has heard from her or Griffin in months. Joke of a team. I'm out until they get rid of this whole clown car. Willie, Griff, and Zion. BI is already gone after the season so no use even mentioning him.

    Griffin had a fully loaded war chest and in year 6 of his tenure we have NEVER even made the playoffs. The "play-in" is an attempt by the league to keep people with trash teams interested until the end of the season, so that doesn't even count.

    This team is competing with the Wizards for worst in the league, and Gayle Benson is an absentee owner who knows nothing about sports. There is no hope unless she sells.
    Made the playoffs twice in those 6 years but got curb stomped both times.

  8. #33
    Um, no. Purposefully missing a shot to lose a game would be a crime.

  9. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    For a guy that has a serious injury ( Supposedly!) he has a funny way of showing it



    Notice there are no more 2 week updates on his status. Nothing.

  10. #35
    So we had to call their butts out to finally get an update. If week to week says anything?

  11. #36
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    We really don't have ANY star talent on the current active roster. CJ and Murray are borderline all-stars. I'm super high on TMIII but his ceiling is also a borderline allstar. If TMIII was ever going to ascend to Ingram level.....this would be the season and we'd be like a 40% win team if BI and Zion were out and TMIII were capable of that level of play. He's just not that caliber of player.

    So it's like trying to do a blockbuster movie with B list celebs. This league is star driven. We currently have zero star power. That's also why we keep giving up late leads. When the game gets into the clutch moments, stars take over. None of our current guys are capable of taking a game over even for a few minutes.

    The tank is a full go but it's not intentional.

    I'll still maintain that this isn't an FO issue....unless we're somehow lumping the injuries on them. This roster is a contender when healthy. The Boogie/Davis roster was a contender when healthy. I can't blame FOs for building healthy rosters derailed by injuries. That being said, the injury issues are too much and history shows it won't get better so it's time to hit reset.
    Last edited by msusousaphone; 12-25-2024 at 04:03 PM.

  12. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    Um, no. Purposefully missing a shot to lose a game would be a crime.
    Um, yes. People say there is no corruption in officiating but it has been proven multiple times not to be the case. There have been indictments across multiple sports. How you can even pretend otherwise is just willful ignorance.

    It exists whether you think it links to our case or not.

  13. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by msusousaphone View Post
    We really don't have ANY star talent on the current active roster. CJ and Murray are borderline all-stars. I'm super high on TMIII but his ceiling is also a borderline allstar. If TMIII was ever going to ascend to Ingram level.....this would be the season and we'd be like a 40% win team if BI and Zion were out and TMIII were capable of that level of play. He's just not that caliber of player.

    So it's like trying to do a blockbuster movie with B list celebs. This league is star driven. We currently have zero star power. That's also why we keep giving up late leads. When the game gets into the clutch moments, stars take over. None of our current guys are capable of taking a game over even for a few minutes.

    The tank is a full go but it's not intentional.

    I'll still maintain that this isn't an FO issue....unless we're somehow lumping the injuries on them. This roster is a contender when healthy. The Boogie/Davis roster was a contender when healthy. I can't blame FOs for building healthy rosters derailed by injuries. That being said, the injury issues are too much and history shows it won't get better so it's time to hit reset.
    I think as long as Willie stays, it is somewhat intentionally whether people think he is the issue or not. If a team was desperately trying to win, they would not accept a 10-15 game deficit and Willie would have been removed (whether he was the issue or not). I'm not sure that is even the best solution in this case because it would be hard to instill a system without a full off-season regardless. You would need an interim. I think we have raised the white flag and that is why we have made it known that everybody is for sale.

  14. #39
    Houston Rockets much like the Thunder showing you how a blow up & rebuild works.

  15. #40
    I am glad that Willie did not do a middling job and stunk the joint out. He either needed to prove everyone wrong or prove everyone right because we can't deal with the uncertainty of him anymore. I expected him to do as average as possible. 10 game deficit at most. He has exceeded those expectations and then some. What is it a 25 game deficit now? At least we have closure and we stand a chance of getting things right. Griff needs to go too. Captain has to go down with the ship.

  16. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by JJackisangry View Post
    I am glad that Willie did not do a middling job and stunk the joint out. He either needed to prove everyone wrong or prove everyone right because we can't deal with the uncertainty of him anymore. I expected him to do as average as possible. 10 game deficit at most. He has exceeded those expectations and then some. What is it a 25 game deficit now? At least we have closure and we stand a chance of getting things right. Griff needs to go too. Captain has to go down with the ship.
    Griffin is staying. Gayle is notoriously loyal to the GMs of her organizations. I actually don?t blame Griffin for this. He built a really talented team that has fallen apart because it?s big 3 are undependable and Willie Green is an atrocious head coach. I will fault Griffin if he holds onto more than one of Zion, BI, or CJ after this season. We need to get rid of all 3 by year 3 of whomever we pick in the top 3 in the 2025 draft.

  17. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhorse985 View Post
    Griffin is staying. Gayle is notoriously loyal to the GMs of her organizations. I actually don?t blame Griffin for this. He built a really talented team that has fallen apart because it?s big 3 are undependable and Willie Green is an atrocious head coach. I will fault Griffin if he holds onto more than one of Zion, BI, or CJ after this season. We need to get rid of all 3 by year 3 of whomever we pick in the top 3 in the 2025 draft.
    Griff made the hires and some questionable roster decisions. He waited far too long to bring in an actual point guard and as I said they both kept stupidly harping on about positionless basketball. I think he is a great businessman. I don't believe he is a great GM. I think it would be a mistake by Gayle.

  18. #43
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    Need to trade 2 of CJ/Ingram/Zion asap if Zion/Jose coming back soon. Gotta keep the tank rolling this season.

  19. #44
    I'm starting to wonder how accurate my 5-77 prediction will be...

    sorry yall, i put the gris gris on us

  20. #45
    This ridiculous, tank be damn. We need to get a look at what Borrego brings as a HC for the rest of the season so we don't get another good HC get away

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    What does this team look like if the front office doesn't succumb to the players and keeps SVG ?
    Would Jonas still be here ? I am pretty sure SVG would have had a problem with all the 2 month injury recovery times, no matter the injury.
    Would he have instilled toughness or would the team quit on him ?
    If SVG was given the leash Willie has been given, I believe the Pels would be much better and considerably tougher.
    They might even have a functional offense ..... and D for that matter.
    What do I know, but one thing I do know, whatever this is, it is NOT working !
    It's that the Hornets unashamedly quit so quickly in Game 4 after fans in New Orleans showed up this season with greater regularity than the team could have ever dreamed, shaming misinformed know-it-alls like me who kept telling you that local residents couldn't possibly invest their time and money into something as trivial as rooting for the local basketball team while still recovering from the devastation of Hurricane Katrina. - Mark Stien ESPN

  22. #47
    Sacramento does not want o be crud. Fired Mike Brown

    https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/k...on-per-report/

  23. #48
    Trajan Langdon saw the writing on the wall and wisely left.

  24. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by P_B_&_G View Post
    I'm starting to wonder how accurate my 5-77 prediction will be...

    sorry yall, i put the gris gris on us
    We could blow this and win Jan 3rd vs Wizards. or another way this gets blown if they use their minds and fire Willie.

  25. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    We could blow this and win Jan 3rd vs Wizards. or another way this gets blown if they use their minds and fire Willie.
    There really is no excuse at this point. There is plenty of talent on the team to not be this horrible.

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