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    Pelicans Brandon Ingram stat line

    38 min , 8 pts , 6 assist, 2-14 FG, 0-3 3PT, 2 turnovers

    Yet we got people on here that want to throw him more money.
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    I guess we did not learn anything from the Eric Gordon era.

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    Ingram is very meh

    Hard for him to get you a bucket despite the fact he usually has a height advantage

    Non existent deep ball, he ain't it

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    Willie count the Green Fedupfan's Avatar
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    Better not pay this beta male 40 million.

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    Pistol Pete Would Be Proud!!
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    in BI's postgame comments he seemed to be very self aware and disappointed with his performance and took ownership. Zion made a change when he wilted in the play in tournament, he made necessary adjustments and came back stronger. Hopefully BI can do that in the off-season.

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    The problem with BI is pretty simple. He’s not a good enough player to build a team around. But his game is also not very conducive for making him the second option on the floor. He’s never developed a decent catch and shoot offense, or a decent post game. His regression from the three point line is also a big problem. He should have thrived playing alongside Zion. He’s had numerous open looks, but it requires him to play without the dribble, and he can’t do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedupfan View Post
    Better not pay this beta male 40 million.
    40 million?

    Try $50m a year average throughout the life of the next contract, with the final year paying him $61m.
    Basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyfamilyreuni View Post
    The problem with BI is pretty simple. He’s not a good enough player to build a team around. But his game is also not very conducive for making him the second option on the floor. He’s never developed a decent catch and shoot offense, or a decent post game. His regression from the three point line is also a big problem. He should have thrived playing alongside Zion. He’s had numerous open looks, but it requires him to play without the dribble, and he can’t do it.
    Basically this.

    BI is an excellent player. Top 60 in the world when healthy, which means he's probably in the top 0.5% of basketball players alive right now.

    That means nothing. The NBA isn't an individual league. It's a team league. And the variety of basketball BI loves to play is not conducive to winning team basketball in 2024. He would probably kill it in 2003, but it isn't 2003.

    Is Willie Green the best coach in the world? Obviously not. We all have issues with him. But the fact is, BI had chance after chance to adjust his own game - CJ did it, all year long. Herb's done it over his first few years in the league, filling in the gaps the team has. Naji's developed in a way that makes him fit the system and what we need from him. They've all made the adjustments to fit themselves better to what we need.

    BI has done the opposite, actually becoming less fitting over the last 3 years. He himself even said it in the post-game last night - this was his worse season in a Pelicans uniform. He's right. He was bad this year even before the injury, and then abominable after it. Will he be better next year? Sure, very probably. Will he be good enough to justify doubling his salary, nearly? Nope. And if he can't be the number one option, you can't pay him like the number one option.

    Dude will pass open a wide open 3 to dribble into a contested fadeaway. It's been said before, but that alone encapsulates everything wrong with his game in 2024. Seeking out worse shots, choosing to make things harder on himself, and worsening the team's offense to do so.

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    This is what years of losing will do to your mentality. I know the second we offload him he will kill it elsewhere. I think once the brain goes it’s over.

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    Now that the taste of defeat is leaving it's easier to look at season stats. Obviously missing Z in the playoffs hurt but that also means looking at the playoffs is a bit meaningless when predicting the future success of the team.

    So for the season, BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together which is pretty bad. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.

    BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. Plus 13 is pretty dang stellar. So saying they worked is an understatement. They flat out dominated. Elite level and in the top percentile amongst the league. It was CJ and Zion and then all three together that didn't work. Those ratings are a + but you need your Big 3 and 1 + 3 pairings to average way more than that. The big question to me is: why didn't it work? CJ is everything we say Zion should have around him. Why don't those two work well together?

    I stole these numbers from Jake on Locked on Pels. I was shocked to hear them. Maybe they're off?
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    I realize he will be traded, but I just know he can mentally grasp the problem of him catching and shooting as opposed to his contested two's.

    Given his end of year statements he seems to be driven to change this narrative after having his worst year ever.

    i bet he works on it all o0ffseason and comes out bombing it from 3 next year.

    but probably with another team(

    as a BI fan i can handle this,

    my one wish is not to trade him for garland or trae young while leaving mccullum on the court; condemming us to being the blazers 2.0

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    I realize he will be traded, but I just know he can mentally grasp the problem of him catching and shooting as opposed to his contested two's.

    Given his end of year statements he seems to be driven to change this narrative after having his worst year ever.

    i bet he works on it all o0ffseason and comes out bombing it from 3 next year.

    but probably with another team(

    as a BI fan i can handle this,

    my one wish is not to trade him for garland or trae young while leaving mccullum on the court; condemming us to being a poor man's blazers 2.0
    Fify

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    40 million?

    Try $50m a year average throughout the life of the next contract, with the final year paying him $61m.
    There is no one in the NBA who pays him that.

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