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  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    I agree. How Yves Missi, the C from Baylor, is ahead of Kel' el Ware on most of the mocks ive seen is beyond my understanding
    I do like Missi, not so much on this team because I really don't see him ever shooting but the dude is a physical monster and I can see him being a serviceable backup big pretty quickly. Like if he went to Golden State or something they'd have him working quick.
    Basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Laughing myself into a coma with Reed Sheppard recording a 42 inch vert out of absolutely nowhere.
    This has the be a first for a white dude since like 1958 right?



    Last edited by ragincaucasian; 05-14-2024 at 09:21 AM.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I do like Missi, not so much on this team because I really don't see him ever shooting but the dude is a physical monster and I can see him being a serviceable backup big pretty quickly. Like if he went to Golden State or something they'd have him working quick.
    Missi, to the Pels, would just rekindle our wishes of having a stretch 5. Kel' el is that dude and a rim protector to boot

    turns out Kel'el was a bit taller and a two inch difference in reach 7'2" for Missi and Ware at 7'4"; that combined with Ware being more refined makes him the best C target for the Pels

    i dont wanr clingan or edey or flipowski
    Last edited by fullcourtpress; 05-18-2024 at 02:41 PM.

  4. #54
    Ware checks almost all the boxes for me : great size, shot-blocking, mobility and stretch 5 potential, thrived into an NBA style system (Woodson's), got over himself by failing his freshman year, native of Arkansas so Louisiana would feel close to home.
    Last edited by Blattman; 05-26-2024 at 02:20 AM.

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Blattman View Post
    Ware checks almost all the boxes for me : great size, shot-blocking, mobility and stretch 5 potential, thrived into an NBA style system (Woodson's), got over himself by failing his freshman year, native of Arkansas so Louisiana would feel close to home.

    But don’t we need a proven stretch 5 who can shoot the 3 to pair perfectly with Z?

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    But don’t we need a proven stretch 5 who can shoot the 3 to pair perfectly with Z?

    That would be ideal; but, its likely that we cant acquire one as a free agent nor via a fair trade; hence why not go for ont that has 'stretch 5 potential"

  7. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    But don’t we need a proven stretch 5 who can shoot the 3 to pair perfectly with Z?
    He made 42.5 percent of his 3pt shot in his sophomore campaign. I can't say he's a proven stretch 5 given the sample size and his FT percentage, but it seems reasonable to see him evolve as such.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Blattman View Post
    Ware checks almost all the boxes for me : great size, shot-blocking, mobility and stretch 5 potential, thrived into an NBA style system (Woodson's), got over himself by failing his freshman year, native of Arkansas so Louisiana would feel close to home.


    not that their ratings mean ********, but it interesting to note that Ware has the the highest overall rating on nbadraft.net (96) while being their 25th best prospect.
    the #1 pick on there also has a 96

  9. #59
    https://x.com/ScoopB/status/1796185816479289767

    And how would his fit on the Pels be any better than Jonas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mount_Zion View Post
    https://x.com/ScoopB/status/1796185816479289767

    And how would his fit on the Pels be any better than Jonas?
    Worse fit at least JV could hit a jumper or 2. And this dude won't guard PnR any better than JV, I hope we don't do this.

  11. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDawg View Post
    Worse fit at least JV could hit a jumper or 2. And this dude won't guard PnR any better than JV, I hope we don't do this.
    Hopefully they are thinking cost controlled backup to a starting caliber center. Or they are hoping he turns into Jokic lol

  12. #62
    Saw that Daron Holmes might have a promise in the late first round.
    I really love the guy but I hope it's not the pelicans, too many moving pieces in this draft to handcuff themselves with a promise.

  13. #63
    After watching Luka and SGA do their thing for their perspective teams this year Im wanting our own big PG living in the paint and collapsing defenses

    instead of trading for one of the hawks or cavs guards id rather cut a trade with someone in the top 5 and take nikola topic (for instance houston0

    albeit unlikely, at least he could be one of the best guards in the conference, i mean the dude shot 68% on half-court lay-ups playing w grown men this year and he is 18
    the year before the draft these dudes averaged:
    luka 62%
    sga 54%
    morant 51%

    his weakness is supposed to be his 3 ball but 18 year olds who shoot 87% from the FT will learn to hit the three

  14. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    After watching Luka and SGA do their thing for their perspective teams this year Im wanting our own big PG living in the paint and collapsing defenses

    instead of trading for one of the hawks or cavs guards id rather cut a trade with someone in the top 5 and take nikola topic (for instance houston0

    albeit unlikely, at least he could be one of the best guards in the conference, i mean the dude shot 68% on half-court lay-ups playing w grown men this year and he is 18
    the year before the draft these dudes averaged:
    luka 62%
    sga 54%
    morant 51%

    his weakness is supposed to be his 3 ball but 18 year olds who shoot 87% from the FT will learn to hit the three
    With topic, I’d like for us to go all in on KAT

  15. #65
    You can't draft an 18 year old prospect and expect to compete with him in the starting line-up for playoff.

    If the pelicans somehow trade into Topic range, we have to realize that it will be costly except if he has an injury concern and it will take between 2 to 3 years in the best case before contributing in a meaningful way to winning. So basically it would be some sort of soft rebuild.

  16. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Blattman View Post
    You can't draft an 18 year old prospect and expect to compete with him in the starting line-up for playoff.

    If the pelicans somehow trade into Topic range, we have to realize that it will be costly except if he has an injury concern and it will take between 2 to 3 years in the best case before contributing in a meaningful way to winning. So basically it would be some sort of soft rebuild.
    A soft rebuild, where BI is traded for a small step back (some combo of youth/picks/better fit) while hoping for improvement from Trey/Zion//Herb to replace what we lose from BI would probably be the best thing we can do this offseason. That said, it would go completely against how Benson/Lauscha/Loomis/Bensel have run this organization for 10 years so I can't imagine them signing off on that.

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    Yeah. We should probably trade Zion, too, at that point (trading to pickup Topic) because no way would he stay for that development. Not saying that's a bad idea. The injury riddled seasons have prepared my mind for the rebuild, but relying on a PG that young would involve an absolute reset.
    BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.

    BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.

  18. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    A soft rebuild, where BI is traded for a small step back (some combo of youth/picks/better fit) while hoping for improvement from Trey/Zion//Herb to replace what we lose from BI would probably be the best thing we can do this offseason. That said, it would go completely against how Benson/Lauscha/Loomis/Bensel have run this organization for 10 years so I can't imagine them signing off on that.
    I'd say that given the landscape on trade target it may be wiser to go to the soft rebuild. Spurs, Rockets and Pistons are all candidates for win now move, so with Ingram, the pelicans could land in the Topic territory.
    I have to say that Ingram for Johnson/Collins/#4 makes a lot of sense for both sides.

  19. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by Blattman View Post
    You can't draft an 18 year old prospect and expect to compete with him in the starting line-up for playoff.

    If the pelicans somehow trade into Topic range, we have to realize that it will be costly except if he has an injury concern and it will take between 2 to 3 years in the best case before contributing in a meaningful way to winning. So basically it would be some sort of soft rebuild.

    That sounds waay too realistic.... and probable.

    But Topic's ceiling is the best ball handler and offensive threat in this class. our competitors have Luka, SGA, Edwards and we will need an elite guard to beat them.
    It's my belief that small markets like us have to 'swing for the fences' more than large markets cause we certainly aren't signing elite guards via FA
    ex. the Bucks and Giannis

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    That sounds waay too realistic.... and probable.

    But Topic's ceiling is the best ball handler and offensive threat in this class. our competitors have Luka, SGA, Edwards and we will need an elite guard to beat them.
    It's my belief that small markets like us have to 'swing for the fences' more than large markets cause we certainly aren't signing elite guards via FA
    ex. the Bucks and Giannis
    Topic has torn ACL

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...topic-torn-acl

  21. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Well he may actually be easier to grab now.

  22. #72
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    Kel’el Ware is generating buzz to potentially be drafted in the lottery, per
    @NBADraftWass
    (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-2-weeks-to-go).

    Ware has shown off improved shooting and elite athleticism during the pre-draft process.

    At Indiana, Ware averaged 15.9 points, 9.9 rebounds and 1.9 blocks.

    Zero surprise here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mount_Zion View Post
    Evan Sidery
    @esidery
    Kel’el Ware is generating buzz to potentially be drafted in the lottery, per
    @NBADraftWass
    (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-2-weeks-to-go).

    Ware has shown off improved shooting and elite athleticism during the pre-draft process.

    At Indiana, Ware averaged 15.9 points, 9.9 rebounds and 1.9 blocks.

    Zero surprise here
    There has been a lot of talk about his motor. Maybe he has eased some of those concerns and a team is willing to take a chance on him.

  24. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    pels should take

    Devin Carter (cross between Jose albarado and Jalen Brunson)
    or
    Kel El Ware (would be our own Jarret Allen)


    or trade up for Matas Buzelis ( he's a better Franz Wagner)

    honorable mention Nikola Topic


    Kel el Ware was the first prospect i loved considering where we were projected to pick. Automatically, that meant that he wouldn't be there.
    then it was Devin Carter; hence, he's a goner too, having moved up



    question

    DaRon Holmes vs Tyler Smith

    which would you prefer

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