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    The worst part is, I’m sick and I’m taking tomorrow off. I planned on watching sports recap shows all day, but not now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    I know it’s just one game, but I truly don’t think this current roster is a championship team

    it’s not like wine where aging with time it’s just going to somehow magically help us become a championship team…

    The roster needs a shake up
    I agree but this game should have said absolutely nothing other than this was one of the most blatant rigging you will ever see. The article is already front page ESPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    If the NBA is rigged, how come no retired referees ever came out in public about it? Did they sign some sort of death contract?
    One ref did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    If the NBA is rigged, how come no retired referees ever came out in public about it? Did they sign some sort of death contract?

    You would think someone by now would’ve said something in regards to spilling the beans
    You really think this story tale comeback from 24 points and a guy just running free to the paint without some of the best defenders in the league being even able to breathe on him, is coincidence? No way lol

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    Trey got 21 minutes that's about right for him. He just wasn't very effective with his time. I agree they need to draw up looks for him more intentionally because team aren't leaving him open and he can't get himself open. Maybe he should work on off ball movement more
    It is absolutely not about right for him.

    The dude spots up from 30 feet, if you can't run a DHO or a simple screening action to create separation 30 feet from the hoop your offense is broken.

    Trey is a superstar in the making: an all-star level talent whose shooting changes things for this team. This team's record when Trey gets up at least 8 attempts from 3 is mind-boggling, worth looking up if you're ever bored. To have a coach who thinks 20 minutes is fine and we don't have to run anything for him is a joke.
    Basketball.

  6. #206
    Dyson Daniels should have played more (led team w +18)

    CJ is a moron for taking a three when we needed one

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    I genuinely feel bad for the Pels after this. They got dealt a really bad hand and I hope they don’t let it make them start slipping. Just keep playing the same. A victory would have happened any other night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    and was a usual choke artist with chucker shots at the end and no defense all game. get him outta here.
    End of the game Ja was going at Herb no problem. I actually agree with you that I don't want him taking the final shot of the game but there is a lot he does well. He was definitely one of our best players this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    Dyson Daniels should have played more (led team w +18)

    CJ is a moron for taking a three when we needed one
    Both of his threes were wide freaking open. He should have taken those shots. Unfortunately he got the heeby jeebies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    If the NBA is rigged, how come no retired referees ever came out in public about it? Did they sign some sort of death contract?
    *ahem*

    Timothy Francis Donaghy (/ˈdɒnəɡi/; born January 7, 1967)[2] is a former professional basketball referee who worked in the National Basketball Association (NBA) for 13 seasons from 1994 to 2007 until he was caught in a gambling scandal.[3] During his career in the NBA, Donaghy officiated in 772 regular season games and 26 playoff games.[3]

    Donaghy resigned from the league on July 9, 2007,[4] after reports of an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) for allegations that he bet on games that he officiated during his last two seasons and that he made calls that affected the point spread in those games.[5] Donaghy later admitted to betting on games he officiated in each of the 2003–04, 2004–05, 2005–06, and 2006–07 seasons.[6] On August 15, 2007, Donaghy pleaded guilty to two federal charges related to the investigation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    It is absolutely not about right for him.

    The dude spots up from 30 feet, if you can't run a DHO or a simple screening action to create separation 30 feet from the hoop your offense is broken.

    Trey is a superstar in the making: an all-star level talent whose shooting changes things for this team. This team's record when Trey gets up at least 8 attempts from 3 is mind-boggling, worth looking up if you're ever bored. To have a coach who thinks 20 minutes is fine and we don't have to run anything for him is a joke.
    Your version of superstars, so far, pales on big stages when the bright lights are on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullcourtpress View Post
    CJ is a moron for taking a three when we needed one
    Who was the player who brought the ball up on that possession? We could have gotten a 2 for 1 but they slow walked it up and left Ja with the final shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedupfan View Post
    You really think this story tale comeback from 24 points and a guy just running free to the paint without some of the best defenders in the league being even able to breathe on him, is coincidence? No way lol
    No, I just wanna know how come it was never was leaked by any retired referees if true

  14. #214
    Zion had three rebounds. I know foul trouble was a factor, and maybe illness was a factor, but come one. I saw him have a good rebounding half in the last game (or the one before that I forget). So I know when his energy level is up he can do it. But there has been too many games where his energy level has sucked. I’m tired of watching him flat footed under the basket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    No, I just wanna know how come it was never was leaked by any retired referees if true
    Not familiar with Tim Donaghy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    *ahem*
    I’m sure there is much more than just this guy too. Some people just don’t want to burn bridges so they decide to be hush. The midseason tournament is rigged and this sh*t was rigged. It’s become a soap opera and a story writing thing now. It’s all about headlines. This one they just couldn’t resist. A game winner by a moron that was suspended 25 games for doing the same thing over and over. Let’s reward his hardships with 20 free throws and a game winner cause the other team isn’t even allowed to guard him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    No, I just wanna know how come it was never was leaked by any retired referees if true
    As I posted to you before, an NBA ref has literally done jail time after an FBI investigation where he admitted to fixing games for multiple seasons.

    This happens.

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    Trey is a great spot up shooter from deep. But his contributions beyond that need work, right now he is more of a 1 dimensional specialist than a super star. And he isn't getting enough shots up, but why is it everyone else's fault and not his? He needs to keep working off ball to get looks rather than just stand there.

  19. #219
    Quote Originally Posted by Freyfamilyreuni View Post
    Not familiar with Tim Donaghy?
    I thought He just had bet on games? His free will.

    That isn’t the same as NBA is forcing the refs to make sure a team wins. How come no retired refs have ever came out regarding the league forcing a specific team to win?

    It’s two total different situations. Unless I am mistaken?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedupfan View Post
    I’m sure there is much more than just this guy too. Some people just don’t want to burn bridges so they decide to be hush. The midseason tournament is rigged and this sh*t was rigged. It’s become a soap opera and a story writing thing now. It’s all about headlines. This one they just couldn’t resist. A game winner by a moron that was suspended 25 games for doing the same thing over and over. Let’s reward his hardships with 20 free throws and a game winner cause the other team isn’t even allowed to guard him.
    If there's one, there's a dozen. Donaghy himself admitted that his tip-offs included games he didn't even officiate himself, which only makes sense if he had some way of knowing how other refs were going to call things.

    There is plenty of reason for thinking that, while the refs are probably not all corrupt, and not every game is fixed, big name, national TV games where there's narratives at play and big money on the line are tilted by the refs.

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    If you’re going to blame someone for rigging the game, blame Willie. He had no feel for the game in the second half. Exact opposite of the Charlotte game.

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    If Ja gets reffed the same way for the rest of the year, they may not lose a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    He bet on games. His free will.

    That isn’t the same as NBA is forcing the refs to make sure a team wins. How come no refs have ever came out regarding the league forcing a specific team to win?
    Actually look up Donaghy. He didn't individually bet on games.

    He gave bettors inside knowledge on games he didn't even officiate, because he knew how those games were being called.

    He has openly said that the NBA would instruct them to call certain players differently than others, and that played into his rigging of games.

    He didn't just individually bet, he was part of a large, ongoing game-rigging scheme with other refs for years. You think he was the only one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy View Post
    I thought He just had bet on games? His free will.

    That isn’t the same as NBA is forcing the refs to make sure a team wins. How come no refs have ever came out regarding the league forcing a specific team to win?
    I’m pretty sure Donaghy said that the Kings Lakers WC semis was rigged. The NBA just used his gambling problems to discredit him. Maybe all the refs have that in their closet for all I know, so the NBA can keep their thumb on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyfamilyreuni View Post
    If you’re going to blame someone for rigging the game, blame Willie. He had no feel for the game in the second half. Exact opposite of the Charlotte game.
    Can’t blame him for this one. What do you tell your team when they can’t play defense or get fouls called for them? I don’t like Willie at all, but this right here was a very sad situation for any man to have to endure. He cares about his team and to watch them get battered by a referee to feed a script will really sting.

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