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  1. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Yeah, that kind of dodging-the-question is about what I expected. Thanks.
    Actually my answer speaks volumes, dae. It tells us that you, others like you, have an extraordinarily low threshold of games played to cross before declaring greatness.

    I look at a player's body of work before drawing conclusions about his value. You, my friend, are satisfied with snapshots.

    Please realize, that your 'clear top 15/20 NBA Player" has never led his team to the playoffs, right, dae? I mean, how could he, if he's not playing, huh?

    That's our "superstar"!!!
    Last edited by As I See It; 06-12-2023 at 02:58 PM.

  2. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Actually my answer speaks volumes, dae. It tells us that you, others like you, have an extraordinarily low threshold of games played to cross before declaring greatness.

    I look at a player's body of work before drawing conclusions about his value. You, my friend, are satisfied with snapshots.

    Please realize, that your 'clear top 15/20 NBA Player" has never led his team to the playoffs, right, dae? I mean, how could he, if he's not playing, huh?

    That's our "superstar"!!!
    Can't wait to watch Z this year. I expect him to make a leap

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    LOL...

    You got me on a typo, It was year three that was the Total Bust, wasn't it (or maybe you didn't think it was)?

    I love your reasoning. It being what it is.......................

    I think Greg Oden is a great basketball player...certainly the class of his class (never mind KD). His inability to stay on the court is just a minor inconvenience and doesn't detract from his greatness. LMAO!!!
    Yet you listed ALL 4 years as at least a bust. Regardless of which year you were referring to, how can that season be seen as a bust?

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    Zion has had the type of career (to date) where anyone who wants to hate on him has valid points and anyone who has high hopes for his future has valid points. There are red flags saying we would be prudent to trade him but also a **** ton of potential showing we'd be stupid to let him go. Only sitting back and watching the rest of his career will win any of these debates.

    Using 'bust' is hyperbolic, though.
    BI, Zion, and CJ had a net rating of +3 when on the court together. BI and Zion had a +13.4, BI and CJ had a +13.2, Zion and CJ was just +5.4.

    BI and Zion worked. BI and CJ worked. It was CJ and Zion and all three together that didn't work.

  5. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Yet you listed ALL 4 years as at least a bust. Regardless of which year you were referring to, how can that season be seen as a bust?
    Just another season he couldn't finish. LOL

    I'm sure you do realize he has never been active at the end of any season he's played while in NOLA (0 for 4). I know that's not a big deal to you, but, pardon me, if it matters to me. Like a wet Black Cat (firecracker), he always fizzles out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Just another season he couldn't finish. LOL

    I'm sure you do realize he has never been active at the end of any season he's played while in NOLA (0 for 4). I know that's not a big deal to you, but, pardon me, if it matters to me. Like a wet Black Cat (firecracker), he always fizzles out.
    Again, he plays 61 of 72 games and puts up those phenomenal stats and you call that a "Bust!!"? You are just showing that you intentionally trolling when it comes to Zion. You have some deep-seated hatred regardless of what he does.

  7. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Again, he plays 61 of 72 games and puts up those phenomenal stats and you call that a "Bust!!"? You are just showing that you intentionally trolling when it comes to Zion. You have some deep-seated hatred regardless of what he does.
    That's the umpteenth time you've accused me of trolling.

    I make no claim about him that can't be backed up with FACT. This club has gone the limit to appease him and, in return, he has delivered nothing meaningful to advance the direction of this team. In fact, I can give you 194,000,000 reasons why I see this team stuck in a quagmire of unrealistic expectations from a 'paper tiger' who's roar is muted by his own inability to contribute to the success of the team with any level of certainty or consistency.

    I want him to be what you think he is, but until I he proves me wrong, I will not not be silenced of my deeply-held convictions and thoughts (unless, of course, you choose otherwise). Please realize, that it is you who injected himself into my post to dae. And, I didn't describe you as a troll, did I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    That's the umpteenth time you've accused me of trolling.

    I make no claim about him that can't be backed up with FACT. This club has gone the limit to appease him and, in return, he has delivered nothing meaningful to advance the direction of this team. In fact, I can give you 194,000,000 reasons why I see this team stuck in a quagmire of unrealistic expectations from a 'paper tiger' who's roar is muted by his own inability to contribute to the success of the team with any level of certainty or consistency.

    I want him to be what you think he is, but until I he proves me wrong, I will not not be silenced of my deeply-held convictions and thoughts (unless, of course, you choose otherwise). Please realize, that it is you who injected himself into my post to dae. And, I didn't describe you as a troll, did I?
    AGAIN, as usual, you do not address the FACT I presented to you. HOW CAN YOU CALL THAT SEASON A BUST AND THEN SAY YOU ARE NOT TROLLING OR BIASED?

  9. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    AGAIN, as usual, you do not address the FACT I presented to you. HOW CAN YOU CALL THAT SEASON A BUST AND THEN SAY YOU ARE NOT TROLLING OR BIASED?
    Same way he wouldn't give me an answer on my question earlier. It's not a good faith conversation.
    Basketball.

  10. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Same way he wouldn't give me an answer on my question earlier. It's not a good faith conversation.
    I tried to get along with you....so help me I tried. You and your sidekick are so deep into the dude that you can't see the forest for the trees. What will you say next year in December or January when he's shut down and then he tells us again that, "Zion doesn't feel like Zion"?

    SIX YEAR INJURY REPORT

    2017-18 Spartanburg Bay High School: First game of the season he bruised his left foot which sidelined him for a month.
    2018-19 Duke University: Missed three weeks with severe knee sprain
    2019-20 Pelicans: Tore his Meniscus before the season started (played 24 total games)
    2020-21 Pelicans: Breaks finger on right hand late in season (played 61 games)
    2021-22 Pelicans: Jones fracture in the offseason....A lost season. (played 0 games)
    2022-23 Pelicans: Day to day hamstring injury in beginning of January turns into year ending injury. "I'll come back when I feel like Zion". (29 games played)

    If a basketball player constantly injures his pins (legs) year after year after year, he's a walking (limping) time bomb and hardly a superstar.

    "The value of a man should be seen in what he gives and not in what he is able to receive".....Albert Einstein

  11. #86
    God this is pathetic.

  12. #87
    Zion fans have more tenacity than we've ever seen from him.

    At this point Zion makes AD look like Dame Lillard and y'all are defending him. Until he shows the team that he gives a damn, I don't give a damn about him.
    Last edited by Jabberwalker; 06-15-2023 at 12:39 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by zakzak View Post
    that dumb Gentry killing Asik morale seriously man he is been good when you compare last season then suddenly he sits whole damn first half barely gets minutes what an idiot we need muscle wee need rebound he took of asik jones,ajinca they got no place on this team play Diallo at least he is decent.
    .......if healthy

    @Jabberwalker

  13. #88
    I'm just disappointed in his taste and lack of smarts to get them to sign waivers. These chicks with the highly disproportionate fake stuff just look comical and unattractive to me. Eww.

    And from what I know, BI did the same thing with one of these "influencer" IG models. He also has a kid out of it...apparently/allegedly. He's just very low-key and very good at keeping his private life private.

    Andrew Bogut dropped a few very obvious facts. I really don't care about this so-called Zion "drama" and I doubt many GMs, including Griff, care that much either. They've all seen it before.

    https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/nbas-s...-andrew-bogut/

    If you think this is a one-off in the NBA, you're very wrong, you're very wrong. This is a common occurrence on many teams I've been, this is a common occurrence amongst the league, where there are different relationships and that's how they have their relationships, some know about it, some don?t, but this not something you need to be shocked about because it happens a lot, the 38-year-old Bogut said.
    So the moment you're like, Holy s**t, I've retired, I can't keep paying you 20K a month to be my side piece cause I can't afford it anymore, that's going to go public. That's just the reality of the world. I saw it mainly in silence in the NBA, some people that I played with and against that were paying people off and what not and this and that, it's normal, bro, I have to say it's normal.
    Last edited by luckyman; 06-15-2023 at 03:08 PM.

  14. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    I'm just disappointed in his taste and lack of smarts to get them to sign waivers.
    Apparently he did, but she claimed on Twitter that she falsified her signature and was violating it. At least, that's what I've seen some others say - she keeps deleting tweets so I never saw that one myself.

  15. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Apparently he did, but she claimed on Twitter that she falsified her signature and was violating it. At least, that's what I've seen some others say - she keeps deleting tweets so I never saw that one myself.
    I saw this tweet up. Lots of screen shots.

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    this Moriah Mills chick is threatening to leak a sex type of Zion and demanding he pay her and the Pels trade him. Completely insane levels of harassment.
    Last edited by hornetsrebirth; 06-19-2023 at 06:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    this Moriah Mills chick is threatening to leak a sex type of Zion and demanding he pay her and the Pels trade him. Completely insane levels of harassment.
    I mean, if she wants to get sued into oblivion, I guess there's no stopping her.

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    She got banned on Twitter

    Thank god, took long enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    this Moriah Mills chick is threatening to leak a sex type of Zion and demanding he pay her and the Pels trade him. Completely insane levels of harassment.
    then she get sued for revenge porn...on the other hand,,,from her mouth, she said zion filmed her on his phone lol....

    that chick is mental...

  21. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    then she get sued for revenge porn...on the other hand,,,from her mouth, she said zion filmed her on his phone lol....

    that chick is mental...
    There's no ''on the other hand'' about it. She said she ''let'' him film her on his phone. So it was fully consensual.

    If she leaks it without his consent, that's revenge porn and it's illegal. It doesn't matter who actually took the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    There's no ''on the other hand'' about it. She said she ''let'' him film her on his phone. So it was fully consensual.

    If she leaks it without his consent, that's revenge porn and it's illegal. It doesn't matter who actually took the video.
    yeah i know...i was just saying on the other hand because she said zion filmed on his phone so im thinking to myself how is she going to leak anything if you said they're all on his phone...then im thinking well maybe she hide a cam somewhere and recorded them which would be more trouble for her......

  23. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    yeah i know...i was just saying on the other hand because she said zion filmed on his phone so im thinking to myself how is she going to leak anything if you said they're all on his phone...then im thinking well maybe she hide a cam somewhere and recorded them which would be more trouble for her......
    I'd like to say that's unlikely, but then, she is clearly insane and obsessed so who knows?

    I'm honestly stunned that there hasn't been some kind of legal clampdown on her already from either Zion or the team. Zion's agent is CAA, that's not some small time agency, they should be on this. It's their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I'd like to say that's unlikely, but then, she is clearly insane and obsessed so who knows?

    I'm honestly stunned that there hasn't been some kind of legal clampdown on her already from either Zion or the team. Zion's agent is CAA, that's not some small time agency, they should be on this. It's their job.
    i been was saying where is zion legal team at....maybe its their strategy to let her pop off at the mouth for some type of legal punishment...i dont know..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    She got banned on Twitter

    Thank god, took long enough
    Yeah... as if there aren't any other socials that she can post on. Her IG and tik tok is bout to go crazy.

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