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    Quote Originally Posted by hornetsrebirth View Post
    Moriah Mills going on a fresh rampage. Say what you want about his baby mama but could be worse he could have impregnated this chick who is apparently certifiably insane.
    Yeah she's puttin Z on full blast... I don't know what her end game is by posting all these "receipts" but this looks terrible for Z.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDawg View Post
    Yeah she's puttin Z on full blast... I don't know what her end game is by posting all these "receipts" but this looks terrible for Z.
    I think it looks worse for her than it does for Zion. The sourest grapes since time began are on display right now.

    Haven't seen someone on the bench this mouthy since late career Jared Dudley.
    Basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDawg View Post
    Yeah she's puttin Z on full blast... I don't know what her end game is by posting all these "receipts" but this looks terrible for Z.
    seem like she is trying to go the lawsuit way by saying zion promised to take care of her if she retired from onlyfans and doing porn by being just with him without it being a transaction because he was wanting more and feeling her.....then posting that he was going to be paying for her to go to culinary class,, her lifestyle of 107k a month,,own condo,,ect, and that she is stressed out and cant sleep because he got the other chick pregnant and not holding up to their agreement.....i guess bring a suit and then try to force him to settle out of court thing....

    the only thing i want to know is,,is it true that he was begging her to come see him when we were in the play in or that last week because he told us he didnt feel like zion to play but she making it seem like he was more worried about her than playing ball.....so yeah that part would be a problem for me and should be for his team mates and the org....but then maybe some team mates knew...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    seem like she is trying to go the lawsuit way by saying zion promised to take care of her if she retired from onlyfans and doing porn by being just with him without it being a transaction because he was wanting more and feeling her.....then posting that he was going to be paying for her to go to culinary class,, her lifestyle of 107k a month,,own condo,,ect, and that she is stressed out and cant sleep because he got the other chick pregnant and not holding up to their agreement.....i guess bring a suit and then try to force him to settle out of court thing....
    I might be missing something because I'm not tracking her tweets, but is it possible to sue someone in the US just for saying they would pay you and pay for school and then they don't?

    Is that a thing? Or is she just tilting at windmills? I expect either the latter or I am just missing something because if so, it seems insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    I might be missing something because I'm not tracking her tweets, but is it possible to sue someone in the US just for saying they would pay you and pay for school and then they don't?

    Is that a thing? Or is she just tilting at windmills? I expect either the latter or I am just missing something because if so, it seems insane.
    the way i see it is this....it seems like zion and her had a Proposal drawn up for a potential agreement...... now going by her post, i dont think she met none of the terms of that proposal......hell , she didnt move here so im trying to see how she is going to try and justify it..........but it seems like thats where she is trying to go with this then hope zion just want it to go away and just settle something behind the scenes...

    im not understanding why zion legal team has not shut her up yet....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    the way i see it is this....it seems like zion and her had a Proposal drawn up for a potential agreement...... now going by her post, i dont think she met none of the terms of that proposal......hell , she didnt move here so im trying to see how she is going to try and justify it..........but it seems like thats where she is trying to go with this then hope zion just want it to go away and just settle something behind the scenes...

    im not understanding why zion legal team has not shut her up yet....
    I went to her page to see if I could actually figure things out and it's honestly just kind of sad. She doesn't need Zion to respond, she needs a therapist. She cannot stop herself; her feelings are hurt big time and she's in the incredibly awkward position of being simultaneously too prideful to back down but also not prideful enough to avoid embarrassing herself. I get that she thought she had found herself the perfect cashflow and hell, maybe she even thought there was some connection too (though I'm sceptical of this) but you cannot have such a horrible public tantrum over this; he picked someone else. Move on. Grow up.

    Caught, inescapably, between two different and opposing forms of ego - it's a dangerous combination.

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    With this dude....it's anything but basketball.

    He has proven to be aloof with regard to the organization by allowing rumor after rumor to spread like a Canadian Wild Fire...won't adhere to a weight management program the training staff prescribed for him, to date...got a well-respected and competent trainer fired, for all intents and purposes....won't play because "Zion doesn't feel like Zion"...opted for rehabbing in Portland instead of staying with his team and working under the care of the team's medical team...played in less than 38% of his team games in four years...and now this "Valley of the Dolls" drama.

    Admittedly, I'd say I love being in New Orleans, too, last summer if I didn't have to do anything to be 'gifted' with $194,000.000. So give him credit, if it's about the money and flushing the team down the toilet, he wins. But, if it's about playing basketball, what a loser this child is.

    Have at me.....
    Last edited by As I See It; 06-11-2023 at 07:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    With this dude....it's anything but basketball.

    He has proven to be aloof with regard to the organization by allowing rumor after rumor to spread like a Canadian Wild Fire...won't adhere to a weight management program the training staff prescribed for him, to date...got a well-respected and competent trainer fired, for all intents and purposes....won't play because "Zion doesn't feel like Zion"...opted for rehabbing in Portland instead of staying with his team and working under the care of the team's medical team...played in less than 38% of his team games in four years...and now this "Valley of the Dolls" drama.

    Admittedly, I'd say I love being in New Orleans, too, last summer if I didn't have to do anything to be 'gifted' with $194,000.000. So give him credit, if it's about the money and flushing the team down the toilet, he wins. But, if it's about playing basketball, what a loser this child is.

    Have at me.....
    Zion is really good at basketball. Can’t wait to watch him play this season. He appears to be in the best shape he has ever been in this early in the offseason. He is healthy for once going into in an offseason too so I am looking forward to seeing him play

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    Zion is really good at basketball. Can’t wait to watch him play this season. He appears to be in the best shape he has ever been in this early in the offseason. He is healthy for once going into in an offseason too so I am looking forward to seeing him play
    If he can play even 55 games - which I think is what we should aim for (and I think the team should use SGB2B as mandatory load management for him) - I think the conversation about him will completely change.

    I absolutely understand why people are frustrated with the injuries because they suck and they cause so much trouble for the team as a whole. But that conversation does completely overshadow the fact that he's 22 years old and already a clear top 20 player in the NBA. Arguably top 15. That's special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    If he can play even 55 games - which I think is what we should aim for (and I think the team should use SGB2B as mandatory load management for him) - I think the conversation about him will completely change.

    I absolutely understand why people are frustrated with the injuries because they suck and they cause so much trouble for the team as a whole. But that conversation does completely overshadow the fact that he's 22 years old and already a clear top 20 player in the NBA. Arguably top 15. That's special.
    You make it hard, dae. I made a resolution not to go back and forth with you anymore. But how can you claim this man is a top 20 NBA talent when his rump is more often than not implanted on the sidelines watching games along with you and me? If I have the voice of Luciano Pavarotti but never perform is it clear that I am a top tenor in the world? You tell me

    He is a man with awesome talent, but in order to be considered "a clear top 20 player in the NBA" he has to play. So, right now...as of this moment...he's merely an "cap-draining" mirage who is more fiction than fact. It amazes me that his followers are so adamant about his greatness.

    Tell me, what has he done to propel the franchise forward. At this moment, his contribution to this organization is dwarfed by many who have played in Smoothie King before him, but he is "a clear top 20 player in the NBA"? Pul---ease!!!

    PS: And you'd be satisfied if he showed up for work two thirds of the time (55 games)? If you are an employer, would you feel that way about your employees? Come on man, you are smarter than this!!
    Last edited by As I See It; 06-12-2023 at 12:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    You make it hard, dae. I made a resolution not to go back and forth with you anymore. But how can you claim this man is a top 20 NBA talent when his rump is more often than not implanted on the sidelines watching games along with you and me? If I have the voice of Luciano Pavarotti but never perform is it clear that I am a top tenor in the world? You tell me

    He is a man with awesome talent, but in order to be considered "a clear top 20 player in the NBA" he has to play. So, right now...as of this moment...he's merely an "cap-draining" mirage who is more fiction than fact. It amazes me that his followers are so adamant about his greatness.

    Tell me, what has he done to propel the franchise forward. At this moment, his contribution to this organization is dwarfed by many who have played in Smoothie King before him, but he is "a clear top 20 player in the NBA"? Pul---ease!!!

    PS: And you'd be satisfied if he showed up for work two thirds of the time (55 games)? If you are an employer, would you feel that way about your employees? Come on man, you are smarter than this!!
    He's really good

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    But doesn't play! So his talent is fruitless.
    Still only 22. Not ready to give up on him yet (as you have done pretty much since his first injury). Embiid did not even really start playing until he was 23 and has not played more than 68 games in any season in his career. He was coming off of a serious foot injury for big man. He's not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    He's really good
    But he doesn't play so his talent is fruitless.

    He's like a Hollywood scene depicting a beautiful antebellum mansion. Problem is, if you walk around the set, you find nothing there...it's only a facade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Still only 22. Not ready to give up on him yet (as you have done pretty much since his first injury). Embiid did not even really start playing until he was 23 and has not played more than 68 games in any season in his career. He was coming off of a serious foot injury for big man. He's not too bad.
    Year One: Bust!!
    Year Two: Total Bust!!!
    Year Three: Bust!!!
    Year Four: Bust!!!

    How many more do you need, my friend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Still only 22. Not ready to give up on him yet (as you have done pretty much since his first injury). Embiid did not even really start playing until he was 23 and has not played more than 68 games in any season in his career. He was coming off of a serious foot injury for big man. He's not too bad.
    You're talking to someone who will never give this up. Zion could play 70 games next year and win MVP and this guy would still be complaining about the 12 games he missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Year One: Bust!!
    Year Two: Total Bust!!!
    Year Three: Bust!!!
    Year Four: Bust!!!

    How many more do you need, my friend?
    i feel you bruh.......

    a man learn best when he get burned.....if zion have any pride in him then i expect him to be in the best shape he has ever been since college.....being in the MVP conversations in 23-24......i expect zion to get the last laugh in 23-24........

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    But he doesn't play so his talent is fruitless.

    He's like a Hollywood scene depicting a beautiful antebellum mansion. Problem is, if you walk around the set, you find nothing there...it's only a facade.
    He was very good this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    i feel you bruh.......

    a man learn best when he get burned.....if zion have any pride in him then i expect him to be in the best shape he has ever been since college.....being in the MVP conversations in 23-24......i expect zion to get the last laugh in 23-24........
    Can we just protect Z from having 40% usage for like two straight months next season. That MVP stretch was insane, but the soft tissue injury was so predictable. Hopefully Borrego's creativity can prevent that need next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    He was very good this year
    First Team All Star?

    Second Team All Star?

    Third Team All Star?

    Guess, he wasn't that good, huh?

    As my tagline says:

    The most important ability of a "Super-Star" is AVAILABILITY!!! This guy has failed miserably for four years.

    .....and to think people around here call Anthony Davis...."GLASS".

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelafanatic View Post
    Can we just protect Z from having 40% usage for like two straight months next season. That MVP stretch was insane, but the soft tissue injury was so predictable. Hopefully Borrego's creativity can prevent that need next season
    It was an unfortunate situation because part of the reason Zion had to have such high usage for so long was that Ingram missed 2 months with a toe issue.

    So it was one injury leading into the next - and then Zion going down led to increased usage for everyone else as well and that's when Jose and Herb started missing time.

    That's the knock on effect injuries have.

    If Zion can come into next season in good shape and then both he and Ingram can play 55+ games, we're going to have a great year. If they can't, we won't. That's just how this team is put together right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Year One: Bust!!
    Year Two: Total Bust!!!
    Year Three: Bust!!!
    Year Four: Bust!!!

    How many more do you need, my friend?
    Can you explain to me how year 2 was a "total bust?" He averaged 27 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 61% FG, 70% FT in 61 games out of a total of 72. If that is a "total bust" I have to question what it is that you expect.

    Also, again, should the Sixers have given up on Embiid after missing 2 complete seasons and most of a 3rd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Can you explain to me how year 2 was a "total bust?" He averaged 27 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, 61% FG, 70% FT in 61 games out of a total of 72. If that is a "total bust" I have to question what it is that you expect.

    Also, again, should the Sixers have given up on Embiid after missing 2 complete seasons and most of a 3rd?
    LOL...

    You got me on a typo, It was year three that was the Total Bust, wasn't it (or maybe you didn't think it was)?

    I love your reasoning. It being what it is.......................

    I think Greg Oden is a great basketball player...certainly the class of his class (never mind KD). His inability to stay on the court is just a minor inconvenience and doesn't detract from his greatness. LMAO!!!

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    Serious question As I See It, how many games in a year can you miss before it's too many to be called a star?

    We both agree that if you play 0 games, that's obviously not a star year. Simultaneously, if you play all 82, that's obviously enough to be a star.

    Is it missing 10 games that's too many? 20? 30? Where's your limit, after which there have been TOO MANY missed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Serious question As I See It, how many games in a year can you miss before it's too many to be called a star?

    We both agree that if you play 0 games, that's obviously not a star year. Simultaneously, if you play all 82, that's obviously enough to be a star.

    Is it missing 10 games that's too many? 20? 30? Where's your limit, after which there have been TOO MANY missed?
    That's a loaded question and you know it (you'd love to cherry pick my answer, wouldn't you). I'll answer it this way:

    More than 28.5 games per year (what your "top 15 NBA Player" is averaging during his four year career).

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    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    That's a loaded question and you know it (you'd love to cherry pick my answer, wouldn't you). I'll answer it this way:

    More than 28.5 games per year (what your "top 15 NBA Player" is averaging during his four year career).
    Yeah, that kind of dodging-the-question is about what I expected. Thanks.

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