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    Pelicans November 27th - New Orleans Pelicans @ Utah Jazz - 5-16



    We go again!

    Having now won 3 of our last 5 games, and going 4-4 over our last 8, the Pelicans are starting to look a little bit more like a basketball team. Our defense has moved from league worst to ''just bad'' overall the last few games, ranking us now 27th in the NBA on the season, but that's a bit misleading: over the last ten games, with more health luck, we've actually been a top 20 defense - 17th, I believe, during that span. The offense is still struggling, but there's hope on the horizon for that with a better rotation for the last few games (even if still not perfect) and the belief that Zion will probably return before Christmas.

    Last game we won out over the Utah Jazz in a very close game that featured some of our best defense of the year. Will we be able to repeat that? Who knows, but there's only one way to find out.
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    Antonio Daniels is absurdly jacked lmao

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    Based on his in game energy, that's about what I expect AD's expression is like most of the time

    Great win last night. Anyone else praying Hart is happy staying a Pel? Always loved the guy, but after getting his 3-ball in order, he is a LEGIT super high tier role player in almost every aspect of the game.

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    The biggest issue for me w/ Hart is every year he gets hurt and misses about 20 to 30 games himself. His energy and effort has always been there when he plays, looks like he's finally getting his shooting together to match.

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    Jazz just making everything out there

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    I have to say them losing those game won't bother me as much. They pulled out a crazy win last game and it's a b2b on the same court.

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    Defense good to end it there but we are 0 for 10 on 3pt attempts. My goodness. If we just had one of Jazz's players like Ingles or Bodganovic.

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    My bad, we are 0-15 on 3pt attempts.

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    Yeah, there are definitely some issues this game but the biggest problem is that we can't throw a rock in the ocean right now (0/17 from 3) whereas the Jazz could shoot the wings off a fly's back from 60 paces tonight.

    What I don't like though is that okay, we're really struggling to hit anything from outside, spacing has collapsed, there are no C&S threats right now.

    And Trey is glued to the bench still. Garrett Temple, Satoransky, both have touched the floor. Why not try the 6'9 shooting specialist who is shooting 37% on 10 attempts per 100? Might be worth a shot, at least. Can't not hit worse than the guys who are already not hitting.

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    Yeah, Trey should be playing but for me right now I'm looking at BI like what are you doing? 4/14 is not gonna cut it. I mean even yesterday he was 8/22 he just made a good pass to Devonte and we let his miscues go but since he has returned from injury dude is not getting it done.

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    0-20... Wow... That's still not as bad as missing 27 consecutive threes.

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    NAW finally made one and it rattled in. Lol.

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    Not gonna win many games going 0-20 to start off on 3's. Last night made this blowout more watchable. I would've turned this crap off at the start of the 3rd any other day.
    Actual proof Greivis Vasquez can throw Anthony Davis an Alley-OOP on an (kinda) fastbreak!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Yeah, Trey should be playing but for me right now I'm looking at BI like what are you doing? 4/14 is not gonna cut it. I mean even yesterday he was 8/22 he just made a good pass to Devonte and we let his miscues go but since he has returned from injury dude is not getting it done.
    BI played well against Washington but otherwise has been a horror-show since coming back from injury. He's been flat out awful the vast majority of the time.

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    Not trying to make excuses b/c they have to figure out how to win b2b games but it sucks they had to play b2b, they didn't even get a chance to feel really good about their win last night which could have been a momentum builder for them.

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    Jaxson Hayes coming in late and nailing three 3PAs is extremely funny.

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    Jaxson Hayes is our leading scorer. That's goofy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeapeaNOLA View Post
    Jaxson Hayes is our leading scorer. That's goofy.
    Also has single handedly made half of the team's 3s for the entire game.

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    Hayes starting next game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    Yeah, Trey should be playing but for me right now I'm looking at BI like what are you doing? 4/14 is not gonna cut it. I mean even yesterday he was 8/22 he just made a good pass to Devonte and we let his miscues go but since he has returned from injury dude is not getting it done.
    Even elite wings and guards go through bad shooting patches. Donovon Mitchell and Paul George have had many of them this year. Mr 50/40/90 Khris Middleton is having the worst shooting year of his career.

    So while BI's shooting has slumped and the TOs have crept up, he still looks to distribute the ball and his defense has held up. Never mind the constant doubles and triple teams missing Zion.

    The team is also 4 - 5 since he's returned against this ridiculous schedule with a league high 22 games and 6 back-to-backs.
    Last edited by luckyman; 11-27-2021 at 11:31 PM.

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    I thought someone said Jaxson would never see the floor again?

    The dumb comments about him are on rinse/repeat I guess. We just went through this last year.

    Billy was going to get some run at some point and it had less to do with Jaxson playign horribly, because he wasn't. And some point, just like last year, it's going to flip around again because Jaxson is the better player with the higher ceiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    I thought someone said Jaxson would never see the floor again?

    The dumb comments about him are on rinse/repeat I guess. We just went through this last year.

    Billy was going to get some run at some point and it had less to do with Jaxson playign horribly, because he wasn't. And some point, just like last year, it's going to flip around again because Jaxson is the better player with the higher ceiling.
    That's not what was said. If you are going to quote someone, at least get the quote right.

    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post

    It wouldn't surprise me if JAX never hits the floor in a Pelicans uniform again.
    LMAO
    Last edited by As I See It; 11-28-2021 at 12:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PELSGIRL View Post
    NAW finally made one and it rattled in. Lol.
    I've noticed the ones he makes are coming off a screen going to his left catch-and-shoots.

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    Was checking the score while at Legoland with my kids. Needless to say....i only had to check it twice to know that lightning was not going to strike twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    So while BI's shooting has slumped and the TOs have crept up, he still looks to distribute the ball and his defense has held up. Never mind the constant doubles and triple teams missing Zion.

    The team is also 4 - 5 since he's returned against this ridiculous schedule with a league high 22 games and 6 back-to-backs.
    My concern for BI is that I think this is probably his single worst slump since becoming a Pelican, and it coincides directly with that injury he got. I wonder if he got enough recovery on it, or if it's still bothering him - the implications of him playing on a damaged limb are not something I like the idea of.

    Plus, it's a long enough slump now that it's seriously impacting his season-long numbers. He's now played more games post-injury than he did pre-injury, and he's been really awful for that time.

    Since he came back from injury, Ingram is averaging 18/6/4 on 37%FG and 28% from 3. About 45%TS, and the TOs have crept up alongside it.

    He's now averaging, for this entire season:

    - His lowest TS% since his rookie year
    - Lowest 3pAr of his career
    - Lowest FTr of his career
    - Career high TOV%
    - Career low STL%
    - Career low BLK%
    - Lowest BPM since his rookie year
    - Lowest VORP since his rookie year
    - Lowest WS/48 in his career (he's currently averaging negative win shares)
    - -4.3 RAPTOR, another career low - that's 123rd out of the 130 players with at least 500 minutes played this season.
    - Career low rim attempts
    - -1.0 in EPM, 189th in the NBA, in the 50th percentile. 65th percentile offensively, 29th percentile defensively. He was top 60 last year.

    It's extremely bad, beyond just a slump and I hope he gets back to normal soon because this is disastrous.

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