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Thread: 2021 NBA FINALS THREAD! Bucks vs Suns!

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    Giannis was very good tonight

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    https://mobile.twitter.com/statmuse/...1337start%3D80 holy i told people the gap wasn't that big between the two

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    Spot on


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    Eric Bledsoe averaged more points, steals and blocks per 36 minutes in his Bucks playoff career than Jrue Holiday.

    Bledsoe: 15.9 PTS | 1.34 STL | 0.7 BLK
    Holiday: 15.8 PTS | 1.31 STL | 0.4 BLK pic.twitter.com/EqdMceI6rk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speakthetruth View Post
    Eric Bledsoe averaged more points, steals and blocks per 36 minutes in his Bucks playoff career than Jrue Holiday.

    Bledsoe: 15.9 PTS | 1.34 STL | 0.7 BLK
    Holiday: 15.8 PTS | 1.31 STL | 0.4 BLK pic.twitter.com/EqdMceI6rk

    — StatMuse (@statmuse) July 9, 2021



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    Spot on

    Bucks has started every series slow and adjusted...

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    Bucks also lucked in with injuries to the nets and hawks... they wouldn't have made it past bkn with a healthy kyrie even without harden...

    Bud needs to have some serious adjustments in this series... im liking the suns with the ball movement 3pt shooting and decent defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaKwAn View Post
    Bucks also lucked in with injuries to the nets and hawks... they wouldn't have made it past bkn with a healthy kyrie even without harden...

    Bud needs to have some serious adjustments in this series... im liking the suns with the ball movement 3pt shooting and decent defense.
    The Suns had just as much, if not more luck than Milwaukee, in their path to the finals due to other teams injuries. The Clippers would have beaten the Suns if they had Kawhi imo

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    Bucks has started every series slow and adjusted...
    Middleton does not get on a roll the Bucks are toast. Giannis can have 80 prs and it still won’t be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luigi modelo View Post
    The Suns had just as much, if not more luck than Milwaukee, in their path to the finals due to other teams injuries. The Clippers would have beaten the Suns if they had Kawhi imo
    Looks at Chris Paul is COVID protocol last home series, injured in Lakers series. Booker wearing a mask .Also wondering where is Dario Saric?

    Oh yeah that right. Suns just eased way in . Okay.
    Last edited by 13 - 3; 07-09-2021 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Looks at Chris Paul is COVID protocol last home series, injured in Lakers series. Booker wearing a mask .Also wondering where is Dario Saric?

    Oh yeah that right. Suns just eased way in . Okay.
    glad you agree

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    Every team that makes the finals every single year has some luck on their side. The reality is that, in the NBA playoffs, just being a good team is not enough. Even excellent teams with excellent rosters can lose before making it there, and even if they make it there they won't win the overall thing unless they get some luck on their side.

    The Bucks have not been good so far. Jrue has not played well and nor has Middleton. Will they adjust? Potentially, the Bucks did so in the last round and improved as a result, but the reality is that the other team they're playing is also just very good. Sometimes it is possible to make no strategic mistakes and still lose; that's not failure, that's just life.
    Cade Cunningham/Usman Garuba/Jaden Springer/Moses Moody/Corey Kispert endorser.

    Eye test people: analytics people watch more basketball than you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Every team that makes the finals every single year has some luck on their side. The reality is that, in the NBA playoffs, just being a good team is not enough. Even excellent teams with excellent rosters can lose before making it there, and even if they make it there they won't win the overall thing unless they get some luck on their side.

    The Bucks have not been good so far. Jrue has not played well and nor has Middleton. Will they adjust? Potentially, the Bucks did so in the last round and improved as a result, but the reality is that the other team they're playing is also just very good. Sometimes it is possible to make no strategic mistakes and still lose; that's not failure, that's just life.


    Welcome back! I told them you would be back on this thread too.

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    I actually think Giannis hurts the Bucks because he plays ISO ball. The Bucks look so much smoother with ball movement when he's out the game. The team has to work harder to get a basket causing them to play team ball offensively. His teamates just stands and watches Giannis on offense. That is detrimental when players need to stay engaged on the court. It happens with Zion too. They gets theirs at the expense of teamwork.

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    Holiday went quickly from underrated to overrated. We traded him in the ideal moment

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    Wait... is Bower on the Suns staff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DroopyDawg View Post
    Wait... is Bower on the Suns staff?
    Where have you been? Wake up and smell the roses

    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...s-front-office

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    Quote Originally Posted by sterlr View Post
    I actually think Giannis hurts the Bucks because he plays ISO ball. The Bucks look so much smoother with ball movement when he's out the game. The team has to work harder to get a basket causing them to play team ball offensively. His teamates just stands and watches Giannis on offense. That is detrimental when players need to stay engaged on the court. It happens with Zion too. They gets theirs at the expense of teamwork.
    Agreed. Point Zion is a train wreck waiting to happen.
    Disclaimer: I would never denigrate or defame Zion Williamson as a man or as a basketball player; he will go down as an NBA great and perhaps a Top 10+ player of all time. Any inference derived from any of my posts to the contrary is your mischaracterization of my words, or a sign of insecurity on your part (perhaps both).

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    Quote Originally Posted by sterlr View Post
    I actually think Giannis hurts the Bucks because he plays ISO ball. The Bucks look so much smoother with ball movement when he's out the game. The team has to work harder to get a basket causing them to play team ball offensively. His teamates just stands and watches Giannis on offense. That is detrimental when players need to stay engaged on the court. It happens with Zion too. They gets theirs at the expense of teamwork.
    The on-off through 2 games suggests otherwise.

    They're like +4 with him on court -27 with him off. Simple offensive sets are fine when they work.

    The 2013-2014 Spurs (the pinnacle of team basketball) began nearly every possession with a Parker/Duncan P&R at the elbow. But out of that they generated open teammates and got the defense in rotation, always making the next pass until they got the shot they wanted. I think the problem for the Bucks is once they get the D rotating they either don't have enough threats or don't move well enough to create the proper space. The first guy who gets the pass out of the double is usually the one who ends up shooting it for them, either taking a contested 3 on a hard closeout or diving into a poorly spaced paint and throwing up some garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelifan View Post
    The on-off through 2 games suggests otherwise.

    They're like +4 with him on court -27 with him off. Simple offensive sets are fine when they work.

    The 2013-2014 Spurs (the pinnacle of team basketball) began nearly every possession with a Parker/Duncan P&R at the elbow. But out of that they generated open teammates and got the defense in rotation, always making the next pass until they got the shot they wanted. I think the problem for the Bucks is once they get the D rotating they either don't have enough threats or don't move well enough to create the proper space. The first guy who gets the pass out of the double is usually the one who ends up shooting it for them, either taking a contested 3 on a hard closeout or diving into a poorly spaced paint and throwing up some garbage.
    Stats don't say it all, there is a human element. I've seen it when I coached. After he leaves the floor his teamates have been so disengaged that they are ineffective. How much better would they be if Giannis played with in the system?
    Last edited by sterlr; 07-10-2021 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Where have you been? Wake up and smell the roses

    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...s-front-office
    Not caring about the whereabouts of Bower, apparently. A bunch of ex-nola on that team. They even got Langston Galloway rotting on the bench over there.

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    Jrue came to play tonight

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