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  1. #476
    Decent stats for Jrue so far

  2. #477
    Jrue and Middleton have both been very inefficient tonight, and Jrue's defense hasn't been up to its usual par either.

    They're a combined 13/36 from the floor (36.1%) and 2/9 from 3.

    Also, Budenholzer minutes alert: Giannis, even if he played every single minute of the 4th, could only hit a maximum of 38 minutes tonight. Likelihood is, he doesn't top 36.
    Basketball.

  3. #478
    It's so easy to imagine this series going to the Bucks without Harden, but at the same time, it just feels like there's too much going against them.

    A bad game one from Jrue and Middleton sucks, but it happens.

    But the weird minutes restrictions and stuff from Bud? That's a multi-year trend: you can't win by having the best player on the floor if he's just not on the floor for huge chunks of time. That's not how it works.

    Then you have stuff like this reffing: Durant's fouled out through 3 quarters but he's still in the game for the 4th cause the refs just decided not to call 2 of them, despite them being blatant.

    How are you supposed to overcome stuff like that, as a player?

  4. #479
    Meanwhile, KD and Kyrie both on pace for 43+ minutes.

    Bud, read the room.

  5. #480
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Jrue and Middleton have both been very inefficient tonight, and Jrue's defense hasn't been up to its usual par either.

    They're a combined 13/36 from the floor (36.1%) and 2/9 from 3.

    Also, Budenholzer minutes alert: Giannis, even if he played every single minute of the 4th, could only hit a maximum of 38 minutes tonight. Likelihood is, he doesn't top 36.
    Holiday has 8 rebounds
    Last edited by 13 - 3; 06-05-2021 at 08:54 PM.

  6. #481
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Holiday has 8 rebounds
    ...who cares?

    He shot 7/19 from the floor and 2/7 from 3, and 1/3 from the stripe, and his defense was massively spotty off-ball. It was far from a good Jrue game.

  7. #482
    Also, yeah

    8 point loss. Giannis played 35 minutes, Durant played 40, Kyrie played 45.

    That matters.

  8. #483
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    ...who cares?

    He shot 7/19 from the floor and 2/7 from 3, and 1/3 from the stripe, and his defense was massively spotty off-ball. It was far from a good Jrue game.


    It’s better than Bledsoe

  9. #484
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Also, yeah

    8 point loss. Giannis played 35 minutes, Durant played 40, Kyrie played 45.

    That matters.
    Hey don’t blame me we did not play Zion enough

  10. #485
    Middleton was awful

  11. #486
    Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
    Middleton was awful
    The Bucks spent a lot of time trying to make Middleton Kobe and not nearly enough time trying to make Giannis Shaq.

  12. #487
    Bucks starters played a total of thirteen minutes together.

  13. #488
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Bucks starters played a total of thirteen minutes together.
    You are right. We should have hired D ‘ Antoni

  14. #489
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Holiday has 8 rebounds
    Blake Griffin outworked Brook Lopez on the boards 14-5.

  15. #490
    I wouldn't touch Bucks with a 50 foot pole. Nets are playing like they actually wanna win a championship.

  16. #491
    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Blake Griffin outworked Brook Lopez on the boards 14-5.
    Yep. Going to tough to stop the Nets

  17. #492
    Quote Originally Posted by Taker597 View Post
    I wouldn't touch Bucks with a 50 foot pole. Nets are playing like they actually wanna win a championship.
    I do think Bucks win a home game.

  18. #493
    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Blake Griffin outworked Brook Lopez on the boards 14-5.
    Blake playing well was surprising...best game as a net for him i think... Brook has always been a bad rebounder though even when he was with the nets where he played inside most of the time.

  19. #494
    https://twitter.com/outsidethenba/st...929582597?s=20


    Bud really hasn't learned anything.

    Nets in 6.

  20. #495
    Quote Originally Posted by Taker597 View Post
    https://twitter.com/outsidethenba/st...929582597?s=20


    Bud really hasn't learned anything.

    Nets in 6.
    He's a clown. 82 game coach.

    Great at designing relatively good, all-purpose gameplans for the regular season. Garbage at adjusting to the specificities of the playoff game.

  21. #496
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    He's a clown. 82 game coach.

    Great at designing relatively good, all-purpose gameplans for the regular season. Garbage at adjusting to the specificities of the playoff game.
    I guess I woke up in a reality where Kobe, Jordan, and Lebron didn't average 41 minutes a game in the playoffs while Giannis is constantly capped at 35 minutes for no logical reason.

  22. #497
    James Harden got an MRI. That is a large piece of the puzzle if it is something

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikemaz...s-mri-results/

    We saw what playing an injured Davis did to Lakers
    Last edited by 13 - 3; 06-06-2021 at 10:19 AM.

  23. #498
    Quote Originally Posted by Taker597 View Post
    I guess I woke up in a reality where Kobe, Jordan, and Lebron didn't average 41 minutes a game in the playoffs while Giannis is constantly capped at 35 minutes for no logical reason.
    Giannis is 26 years old. He's averaging exactly 36.0 minutes per game these playoffs. Last year, aged 25, he averaged 30.8 minutes per game in the playoffs. Bud's refusal to play him serious, heavy minutes, is absurd. He's not injury prone, he's not unwell, he's not old, and he's not whiny. There's zero reason to hold him down to 36 and under almost every night. Here's the kind of minutes other all-time greats were playing in the post-season at the ages of 25 and 26. I've included players from different eras and across different positions to show that this isn't just a weird thing where only PGs play heavy minutes like this, or that it was only a thing that happened in the 90s.

    Jordan:
    Age 25: 42.2 mpg
    Age 26: 42.1 mpg

    Lebron:
    Age 25: 41.8 mpg
    Age 26: 43.9 mpg

    Shaq:
    Age 25: 38.5 mpg
    Age 26: 39.4 mpg

    Garnett:
    Age 25: 43.3 mpg
    Age 26: 44.2 mpg

    Tim Duncan:
    Age 25: 42.2 mpg
    Age 26: 42.5 mpg

    John Stockton:
    Age 25: 43.5 mpg
    Age 26: 46.3 mpg

    Larry Bird:
    Age 25: 40.8 mpg
    Age 26: 40.0 mpg

    Chris Paul:
    Age 25: 41.7 mpg
    Age 26: 38.5 mpg

    Dwyane Wade:
    Age 25: 40.5 mpg
    Age 26: 40.7 mpg

    It's just absurd that Giannis seems to have a firm minutes cap around 36mpg in this situation. Like I said, if he was old or had a long catalogue of injuries, I'd get it, but neither of those things are true. There's just no real explanation for it. Bud keeps saying it's to keep them fresh and well rested, but if they don't win who cares? If they don't play more minutes now, there won't be any minutes later for them to be fresh for. Does Bud think he's keeping Giannis well rested for Cancun or something?

  24. #499
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    Giannis is 26 years old. He's averaging exactly 36.0 minutes per game these playoffs. Last year, aged 25, he averaged 30.8 minutes per game in the playoffs. Bud's refusal to play him serious, heavy minutes, is absurd. He's not injury prone, he's not unwell, he's not old, and he's not whiny. There's zero reason to hold him down to 36 and under almost every night. Here's the kind of minutes other all-time greats were playing in the post-season at the ages of 25 and 26. I've included players from different eras and across different positions to show that this isn't just a weird thing where only PGs play heavy minutes like this, or that it was only a thing that happened in the 90s.

    Jordan:
    Age 25: 42.2 mpg
    Age 26: 42.1 mpg

    Lebron:
    Age 25: 41.8 mpg
    Age 26: 43.9 mpg

    Shaq:
    Age 25: 38.5 mpg
    Age 26: 39.4 mpg

    Garnett:
    Age 25: 43.3 mpg
    Age 26: 44.2 mpg

    Tim Duncan:
    Age 25: 42.2 mpg
    Age 26: 42.5 mpg

    John Stockton:
    Age 25: 43.5 mpg
    Age 26: 46.3 mpg

    Larry Bird:
    Age 25: 40.8 mpg
    Age 26: 40.0 mpg

    Chris Paul:
    Age 25: 41.7 mpg
    Age 26: 38.5 mpg

    Dwyane Wade:
    Age 25: 40.5 mpg
    Age 26: 40.7 mpg

    It's just absurd that Giannis seems to have a firm minutes cap around 36mpg in this situation. Like I said, if he was old or had a long catalogue of injuries, I'd get it, but neither of those things are true. There's just no real explanation for it. Bud keeps saying it's to keep them fresh and well rested, but if they don't win who cares? If they don't play more minutes now, there won't be any minutes later for them to be fresh for. Does Bud think he's keeping Giannis well rested for Cancun or something?
    It's more concerning that with Harden getting hurt and Bud flat out refused to pounce on it before the Nets can regroup before half time. Let them hang around... Just soft.

  25. #500
    Quote Originally Posted by Taker597 View Post
    It's more concerning that with Harden getting hurt and Bud flat out refused to pounce on it before the Nets can regroup before half time. Let them hang around... Just soft.
    I mentioned it earlier in this thread, but the Bucks starters only logged 13 minutes together the entire game. They won those minutes, even with Jrue and Middleton shooting like garbage.

    The minute Harden went down, it should have been like blood in the water. Bud should have immediately realised the importance of stealing this game, and piled those minutes on. Those starters should have logged 25 minutes together, and the Bucks should be up, having stolen one on the road.

    But this is the difference between regular season and post-season coaching. Post season coaches desperately need to be able to adjust on the fly, improvise, change game plans, take advantage of anything that comes up. You can't just walk in with your game plan set in stone before opening tip off, that's how you lose winnable games. That's all Bud does.

    Sometimes it feels like Bud could just send in a piece of paper to the refs detailing when in the game clock he'd like to make substitutions and not even show up to the game. He's about as inventive and dynamic as the paper would be.

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