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  1. #851
    I would trade Ingram in an instant if we could get back a really good scorer and a proper 3 and D wing

    If neither Ingram or Zion care about defense at the 3/4, that's a real problem

    Ingram + Kira + picks for Dame and RoCo somehow

  2. #852
    You dont trade Ingram now for two 50 cent pieces. He is the chip you trade eventually for the major upgrade.

    If Lillard were available, you would have a better chance getting him with Ingram as the centerpiece than if you had that scorer and 3-and-D guy you are talking about.

    While those guys might help you win more regular season games next year (I emphasize might), they dont get you closer to landing the major piece. You keep Ingram until that day comes, and who knows, maybe he develops in areas that compliment Zion
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  4. #854
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Including Zion?

  5. #855
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    If Lillard were available, you would have a better chance getting him with Ingram as the centerpiece than if you had that scorer and 3-and-D guy you are talking about.
    That was in the heart of the trade I proposed

    Ingram + various pieces for Dame + RoCo

  6. #856
    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Including Zion?
    Probably not him but at this rate he may leave on his own when he can unless there is dramatic change. Like Phoenix Suns quick change.

  7. #857
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Probably not him but at this rate he may leave on his own when he can unless there is dramatic change. Like Phoenix Suns quick change.
    Everyone should have a price...EVERYONE!!! In the end, his best value to the Pelicans will probably be as a trading chip, IMO.

    BTW: Phoenix was not a quick change contrary to your diatribe. The core has been around for four years or longer (Booker - 6 Years, Ayton - 4 years, Bridges - 4 years).

  8. #858
    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Everyone should have a price...EVERYONE!!! In the end, his best value to the Pelicans will probably be as a trading chip, IMO.

    BTW: Phoenix was not a quick change contrary to your diatribe. The core has been around for four years or longer (Booker - 6 Years, Ayton - 4 years, Bridges - 4 years).
    2 years under GM . First time EVER A TEAM THAT DID NOT MAKE PLAYOFFS LAST SEASON have made Finals this season.

    https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/...e-phoenix-suns


    Hell look at Atlanta Hawks have done once they CHANGED COACH

  9. #859
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara View Post
    You dont trade Ingram now for two 50 cent pieces. He is the chip you trade eventually for the major upgrade.

    If Lillard were available, you would have a better chance getting him with Ingram as the centerpiece than if you had that scorer and 3-and-D guy you are talking about.

    While those guys might help you win more regular season games next year (I emphasize might), they dont get you closer to landing the major piece. You keep Ingram until that day comes, and who knows, maybe he develops in areas that compliment Zion
    Agreed

  10. #860
    Quote Originally Posted by HornetGuru View Post
    Agreed
    Apparently no one can comprehend?

    I literally said Ingram and filler for Dame and RoCo

    If we didn't have to give up NAW and Jax, that would be fantastic

    I'm guessing Portland would start with Ingram, NAW and Jax and various 1sts

    I could live with Ingram and NAW and 10 going out
    Last edited by AusPel; 07-01-2021 at 02:08 PM.

  11. #861
    Ingram wallpaper removed off pelicans.com ? Well at least they have new Zion wallpaper

  12. #862
    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    Ingram wallpaper removed off pelicans.com ? Well at least they have new Zion wallpaper
    Wat

  13. #863
    Quote Originally Posted by AusPel View Post
    Apparently no one can comprehend?

    I literally said Ingram and filler for Dame and RoCo

    If we didn't have to give up NAW and Jax, that would be fantastic

    I'm guessing Portland would start with Ingram, NAW and Jax and various 1sts

    I could live with Ingram and NAW and 10 going out
    If you go back and read your post I think you will see where the confusion lies. The top part seems like you are saying two.role players would be nice and then you also would be happy with a bigger Lillard package as well

  14. #864
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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    First time EVER A TEAM THAT DID NOT MAKE PLAYOFFS LAST SEASON have made Finals this season.
    What about the Lakers just last season???

    Edit: They mention that, as well as the Celtics in 2007, and there are probably several other examples.

  15. #865
    Quote Originally Posted by AusPel View Post
    Apparently no one can comprehend?

    I literally said Ingram and filler for Dame and RoCo

    If we didn't have to give up NAW and Jax, that would be fantastic

    I'm guessing Portland would start with Ingram, NAW and Jax and various 1sts

    I could live with Ingram and NAW and 10 going out
    No I am saying I agree with his logic, wasn’t saying I did not understand or agree with yours. I don’t think you’re comprehending me. And I say that respectfully

  16. #866
    Quote Originally Posted by AusPel View Post
    Apparently no one can comprehend?

    I literally said Ingram and filler for Dame and RoCo

    If we didn't have to give up NAW and Jax, that would be fantastic

    I'm guessing Portland would start with Ingram, NAW and Jax and various 1sts

    I could live with Ingram and NAW and 10 going out
    Dame and RoCo would be fantastic, both would fit around Zion extremely well, especially RoCo for the types of players I want around Zion

  17. #867
    Quote Originally Posted by donato View Post
    What about the Lakers just last season???

    Edit: They mention that, as well as the Celtics in 2007, and there are probably several other examples.
    DavisGate thanks for reminding me. Lebron now recruiting Dame. Now on that note If you want to use the 10 year plan look at them(Suns) now look at us(Pelicans). One is going to the Finals the other may lose its 3rd hall of famer in 10 years.
    Last edited by 13 - 3; 07-01-2021 at 03:38 PM.

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  19. #869
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    Quote Originally Posted by 13 - 3 View Post
    DavisGate thanks for reminding me. Lebron now recruiting Dame. Now on that note If you want to use the 10 year plan look at them(Suns) now look at us(Pelicans). One is going to the Finals the other may lose its 3rd hall of famer in 10 years.

    Seems like sound logic. So, if the FO listens to you we'll go to the finals next year. If not, the Pelicans may lose their 3rd HOF player in 10 years. Also they better hurry up and lose Zion because Chris Paul last wore a Hornets jersey in 2011.

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  21. #871
    Quote Originally Posted by As I See It View Post
    Everyone should have a price...EVERYONE!!! In the end, his best value to the Pelicans will probably be as a trading chip, IMO.

    BTW: Phoenix was not a quick change contrary to your diatribe. The core has been around for four years or longer (Booker - 6 Years, Ayton - 4 years, Bridges - 4 years).
    3 years for bridges and Ayton. 13-3 for some reason gives James Jones credit for drafting Bridges even though by that point he'd been a non GM executive for all of like 2 days.

    Phx definitely has been a mixed bag. Monty, Cam Johnson and Payne were good moves

    CP chose PHX and recruited crowder so you cant give much credit there

    They got bad value for Warren, but def an argument to be made for addition by subtraction

    Dario signing was not so hot

    Jalen Smith over Halibuton is yikes and is only going to look worse as time goes on. He was the perfect fit there too.

    Definitely an above average record. But the core of the roster has nothing to do with James Jones.

  22. #872
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelifan View Post
    3 years for bridges and Ayton. 13-3 for some reason gives James Jones credit for drafting Bridges even though by that point he'd been a non GM executive for all of like 2 days.

    Phx definitely has been a mixed bag. Monty, Cam Johnson and Payne were good moves

    CP chose PHX and recruited crowder so you cant give much credit there

    They got bad value for Warren, but def an argument to be made for addition by subtraction

    Dario signing was not so hot

    Jalen Smith over Halibuton is yikes and is only going to look worse as time goes on. He was the perfect fit there too.

    Definitely an above average record. But the core of the roster has nothing to do with James Jones.
    Agreed

  23. #873
    Quote Originally Posted by Pelifan View Post
    3 years for bridges and Ayton. 13-3 for some reason gives James Jones credit for drafting Bridges even though by that point he'd been a non GM executive for all of like 2 days.

    Phx definitely has been a mixed bag. Monty, Cam Johnson and Payne were good moves

    CP chose PHX and recruited crowder so you cant give much credit there

    They got bad value for Warren, but def an argument to be made for addition by subtraction

    Dario signing was not so hot

    Jalen Smith over Halibuton is yikes and is only going to look worse as time goes on. He was the perfect fit there too.

    Definitely an above average record. But the core of the roster has nothing to do with James Jones.


    https://www.nba.com/news/phoenix-sun...executive-year

    Again if you want to use the 5 to 10 year thing look at them. NOW LOOK AT US. ONE IS IN THE FINALS THE OTHER IS ABOUT TO LOSE ITS 3rd hall of famer in 10 years.

    Need to strike gold this season.

  24. #874
    Don’t want to give Jones credit oh wait lol it gets even better

    https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...s-front-office

    https://arizonasports.com/story/1904...ll-operations/

    You’re boy Bowers is going to Finals

  25. #875
    Another way to look at it we had the tools and we kicked it to the curb. Yes Dell Demps was much to blame.

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