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    Quote Originally Posted by AusPel View Post
    Let's check out a few mocks and see where they rated Herro (and Jax), shan't we?

    Bleacher Report (Jax @ 8)



    Business Insider (Jax @ 10)



    NBA.com (Jax @ 12)



    Sam Smith (Jax @ 10)



    Common threads:

    Jax - Is a project. That's pretty much it

    Herro - We've got him low, but he has a very desirable skill and we'll probably look stupid in the future

    Pretty much how it played out in reality

    jax was mock to go top 10...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    jax was mock to go top 10...
    Yeah, which gives you an idea of the range that the media thinks guys should go at with none of the interviews, combine testing or any sort of stuff the real inner sanctum has access to

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    Kushner calling him out



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    The biggest proof of after a turnover or bad play, Chris Paul sprints back and is trying to steal the ball or make a defensive play immediately.

    Lonzo Ball just stood around and was the last man back. I used to see Zion do they. Not so much but he needs to step it up as well.

    Whole team needs an injection of someone who refuses to “bow down” and is good enough to do something about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    The biggest proof of after a turnover or bad play, Chris Paul sprints back and is trying to steal the ball or make a defensive play immediately.

    Lonzo Ball just stood around and was the last man back. I used to see Zion do they. Not so much but he needs to step it up as well.

    Whole team needs an injection of someone who refuses to “bow down” and is good enough to do something about it.
    Yeah. It feels like a team without a clear on-court leader. Who's the "Alpha" because it doesn't feel like it's Lonzo or BI. We need someone who has a mentality like Rondo or Chris Paul to keep the rest of the team in check when things start slacking.

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    They are absolutely mind boggling, no question about that. Friday night was the kick in the face for me. It's tough.

    That said, I am not sure why anyone expected any better after 29 games. I would have been happy with 15-14 and we are 12-17, lumped in with the 6 teams you'd have expected us to be around. Maybe their plan sucks but you have to give them time to execute it.

    I get the frustration but let's see what happens with any trades and the rest of the season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherNLU View Post
    I get the frustration but let's see what happens with any trades and the rest of the season.
    That's my plan.

    We suck. I expected us to be not-great, I didn't quite expect us to be this bad, but it is what it is and we're terrible.

    Part of that has been due to bad luck. We give up about the same number of open 3s per game as the Knicks, but opponents are shooting 31% on those shots against NY while shooting about 40% on them against us: that's just bad luck. They're both wide open threes, it has nothing to do with defensive scheme. If we had the Knicks' 3pt opponent efficiency, we'd be 16-13 or something lmao.

    But beyond that luck, there is the practical on court element: we are just not a very good team. Serious problems in terms of both roster construction, effort, and coaching. The end result is that we aren't very good, which is fine at this point in our re-structuring of the team around Zion. The concern will come more strongly if nothing is done about it.

    There has to be moves. If there aren't at least two trades of reasonable size at the deadline, then I'm going to switch from concerned to genuinely annoyed. But I've got to give it until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelicanidae View Post
    That's my plan.

    We suck. I expected us to be not-great, I didn't quite expect us to be this bad, but it is what it is and we're terrible.

    Part of that has been due to bad luck. We give up about the same number of open 3s per game as the Knicks, but opponents are shooting 31% on those shots against NY while shooting about 40% on them against us: that's just bad luck. They're both wide open threes, it has nothing to do with defensive scheme. If we had the Knicks' 3pt opponent efficiency, we'd be 16-13 or something lmao.

    But beyond that luck, there is the practical on court element: we are just not a very good team. Serious problems in terms of both roster construction, effort, and coaching. The end result is that we aren't very good, which is fine at this point in our re-structuring of the team around Zion. The concern will come more strongly if nothing is done about it.

    There has to be moves. If there aren't at least two trades of reasonable size at the deadline, then I'm going to switch from concerned to genuinely annoyed. But I've got to give it until then.
    We can't just assume it's bad luck. It's not just a matter of leaving a guy open it's a matter of who is being left open. Maybe the Knicks leave marginal shooters open and that's why their open 3pt makes are so low compared to ours. That why stats without some serious context can be very misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    We can't just assume it's bad luck. It's not just a matter of leaving a guy open it's a matter of who is being left open. Maybe the Knicks leave marginal shooters open and that's why their open 3pt makes are so low compared to ours. That why stats without some serious context can be very misleading.
    There is absolutely a degree of bad luck to it. We've been lit up by guys like Coby White, who was shooting 34% from 3 on the season coming into that game. Meanwhile the Knicks have given up 14 three point attempts to Steph Curry and had him shoot under 35% (I think he went something like 4 of 14?).

    I'm not saying it's all bad luck, of course that's not the case. That's why I said ''part'' of it, in the initial post: even accounting for bad luck, we play awful perimeter defense. But there definitely has been an element of bad luck, as there basically always is when you're so outlier bad at a particular thing. We are currently giving up the most 3pt makes per game in NBA history by about 2.5 makes a game: we're bad, I don't think we're bad enough to be considered the worst perimeter defense of all time by such a huge margin.

    My worry is that, as always happens with bad luck, the law of averages will come into play and we'll have a few games where everyone shoots below their averages and people will declare the defense improved and move on, when in reality that won't be the case.

    Of course I hope the FO won't be so quick to fall for that mistake, but who knows, honestly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeatherNLU View Post
    They are absolutely mind boggling, no question about that. Friday night was the kick in the face for me. It's tough.

    That said, I am not sure why anyone expected any better after 29 games. I would have been happy with 15-14 and we are 12-17, lumped in with the 6 teams you'd have expected us to be around. Maybe their plan sucks but you have to give them time to execute it.

    I get the frustration but let's see what happens with any trades and the rest of the season.
    THis sums up where I'm at.

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    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pelicans are waiving Sindarius Thornwell, a team source confirms.

    Pelicans are making the move for tax line reasons with the guarantee date on his contract looming - team is $502k below the luxury tax.

    Also frees up a spot for possible trade.
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    whats the deal...trade or bringing someone in?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6warddude View Post
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Pelicans are waiving Sindarius Thornwell, a team source confirms.

    Pelicans are making the move for tax line reasons with the guarantee date on his contract looming - team is $502k below the luxury tax.

    Also frees up a spot for possible trade.
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    whats the deal...trade or bringing someone in?...
    Probably just creating a little more cap flexibility. A player on a 10-day can offer what he brings rather than guaranteeing his salary.

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