Quote Originally Posted by luckyman View Post
I'm not talking about at impact. I'm talking about people who actually witnessed the thing in the air before that. I said "before the crash." Plus what little data is available confirms the same.

Not arguing any of your valid points. I have no doubt that this guy isn't being truthful but what he thinks he saw or heard might not jibe with what actually happen. NTSB will take into account every witness they can. I wouldn't be surprised if a security camera caught this on film. Again, people want quick answer but the NTSB operates at their own speed...very slow.