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Thread: Official Fire Monty Thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    While individually this is true as a collective we have a ton of clot. We buy the tickets, watch the games, and buy the merchandise. While you already know I agree that all the firing talk is way too premature. The collective opinion of the fan base can't and usually isn't ignored.
    While more than a squirrel fart, the bulk of the teams' revenue is not tied to the passionate core fanbase directly. It's the masses that buy merch on whims, support the NBA generally, and are influenced by advertising.

    Most revenue sources are clueless about the finer points of the team and the game, just like Saints fans who watch the games, buy some merch, and yak at work in a small talk sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was joking. Not 100% bc I can't tell tone, but pretty sure.
    Maybe.

    With the more serious talk going on, I'm not taking chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
    For the fans to have clout they have to show a trend of not supporting the team (or product) and last I checked, our ST #'s are up. Now I doubt they're to the level they say they're at, but regardless the fans as a whole are buying in to Dell's moves. I'm one of those fans and don't think it's time to panic. It's common though when a small subset of people feel passionate about an issue and vocalize it (more than the people who are indifferent or are in favor of the current solution) it makes it seem like it's a bigger issue than it is. I mean what, 20-25 people on this forum are saying Monty needs to be fired. 5 saying Dell needs to be fired and now it's mainstay.
    Glad somebody said it.

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    How many games do you think we win in December? This is an important game tonight. Must get the wins while we can!

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    Doing two radio sports shows, I can attest to the feelings of fans, that care to call in, are fairly similar to here. Most want Monty out, others don't. But some of the others just want us to bring in Avery Johnson, so...

    Real glad we all don't have a say in decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eman5805 View Post
    Doing two radio sports shows, I can attest to the feelings of fans, that care to call in, are fairly similar to here. Most want Monty out, others don't. But some of the others just want us to bring in Avery Johnson, so...

    Real glad we all don't have a say in decisions.

    Good point. I don't want Avery as H.C. I know the man sits in Benson's suite at Saints games, has a S.B. ring etc. Maybe they bring in Avery at a office position at best after all-star game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    Good point. I don't want Avery as H.C. I know the man sits in Benson's suite at Saints games, has a S.B. ring etc. Maybe they bring in Avery at a office position at best after all-star game.
    Yes, but people realize that if we do fire Monty, that's an option, right? People make suggestions like only the grass green side of the field is the only possibility.

    "I don't know if people know — I dislocated my pinkie finger. And [Tyreke] told me, 'You wanna go home or you wanna be here?' I want to be here. And he said, 'All right, then go tape it up and let's play. Let's go. We not stoppin' at no stores. Straight gas. That's what we do, just keep going.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42 View Post
    While more than a squirrel fart, the bulk of the teams' revenue is not tied to the passionate core fanbase directly. It's the masses that buy merch on whims, support the NBA generally, and are influenced by advertising.

    Most revenue sources are clueless about the finer points of the team and the game, just like Saints fans who watch the games, buy some merch, and yak at work in a small talk sense.
    Of course the random fan has little understanding of the inner workings. However they do understand winning and losing. We aren't a patient society anymore. Guy who doesn't know jack about jack will still be calling for the head of the coach/GM if "his" team is unsuccessful. Especially when said team has put certain expectations on itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by da ThRONe View Post
    Of course the random fan has little understanding of the inner workings. However they do understand winning and losing. We aren't a patient society anymore. Guy who doesn't know jack about jack will still be calling for the head of the coach/GM if "his" team is unsuccessful. Especially when said team has put certain expectations on itself.
    Of course. Every team says what it needs to say to sell.

    Of course some fans will call for heads.

    Quantitatively, this is amounts to a hill of beans, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42 View Post
    Yeah, it's like measuring pornography in pounds. You can, but what does it really tell you about what you are watching?

    The medium, not the talent . . .
    One of the worst analogies I have ever heard or read. lol

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    Best!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42 View Post
    Best!!!
    Ha! Well, credit for being original.

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    You realize the insanity of the analogy is exactly the point, right?

    The score is, when a title is not on the line, merely a useless, or worse than useless, meaningless, or worse than meaningless, distraction.

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    Question of the night. Which player could cost Monty his job? You may use tonight as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    Question of the night. Which player could cost Monty his job? You may use tonight as an example.
    His name is Alluv Them.

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    George Karl would be a great fit
    "These are my new shoes. They're good shoes. They won't make you rich like me, they won't make you rebound like me, they definitely won't make you handsome like me. They'll only make you have shoes like me. That's it."—Charles Barkley

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    Quote Originally Posted by 42 View Post
    You realize the insanity of the analogy is exactly the point, right?

    The score is, when a title is not on the line, merely a useless, or worse than useless, meaningless, or worse than meaningless, distraction.
    Sure, sure.

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    I said he needed to go 3 years ago and got flamed for it, finally people realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemadden504 View Post
    I said he needed to go 3 years ago and got flamed for it, finally people realize.
    So you gave him what 6 months before you decided this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemadden504 View Post
    I said he needed to go 3 years ago and got flamed for it, finally people realize.
    The only important thing is that you get to say I told you so. So...I hear you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemadden504 View Post
    I said he needed to go 3 years ago and got flamed for it, finally people realize.
    Wow ain't ya a genius now

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevemadden504 View Post
    I said he needed to go 3 years ago and got flamed for it, finally people realize.
    That's a pretty ignorant opinion 3 years ago.

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    Lol fans only giving coaches a few months before their mind is made up, how charming is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOLa. View Post
    Lol fans only giving coaches a few months before their mind is made up, how charming is that?
    It isn't a few months. He was given the benefit of the doubt when he had less talent. With higher expectations, people will be more harsh. Personally, I don't think Monty's coaching style (at least what we have seen so far) is productive with our players. He has continuously made questionable decisions with his rotations. I'm not going to point out all of the major flaws with him, but I believe most of the people calling for his head aren't just judging off of this season. I personally never understood the widespread praise he was given. To be honest, he has given me no reason to consider him one of the best young coaches in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Make It Rain View Post
    It isn't a few months. He was given the benefit of the doubt when he had less talent. With higher expectations, people will be more harsh. Personally, I don't think Monty's coaching style (at least what we have seen so far) is productive with our players. He has continuously made questionable decisions with his rotations. I'm not going to point out all of the major flaws with him, but I believe most of the people calling for his head aren't just judging off of this season. I personally never understood the widespread praise he was given. To be honest, he has given me no reason to consider him one of the best young coaches in the league.
    I think that reply was to the guy (post #393) that said he said Monty needed to go 3 years ago. Which, to me, says he didn't give Monty a chance to begin with. Surely Monty had to have been here only a short time before his decision was already made.

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