Vasquez out against Nuggets

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Jim Eichenhofer ‏@Jim_Eichenhofer 1h
Greivis Vasquez (ankle) won't play tonight vs. Nuggets. Brian Roberts will start at point guard. Backup PG may be combo of Harris/Miller

Jim Eichenhofer ‏@Jim_Eichenhofer 4m
Greivis Vasquez will miss his first-ever game with the Hornets. He played in all 66 games last season and the first 70 in 2012-13

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Darius Miller running the point?

Also, TANK.

This might be anti-tank. Just kidding.

Sucks vasquez is going to miss time. It has been very impressive how durable he is. I know it's something he probably prided himself on.

Looking forward to seeing Harris more....if he can hit a shot he can be a valuable assett

Think Gordon may run point in starting lineup and have Roberts play off the ball?

Darius Miller... the next point forward? It's about that time of the year when miracles happen...

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

This might be anti-tank. Just kidding.

Sucks vasquez is going to miss time. It has been very impressive how durable he is. I know it's something he probably prided himself on.

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Its kind of easy to be durable when you don't run fast, jump high, don't have quick feet, don't play defense or fight for rebounds. To slow to pop or pull a muscle and his slow flat footed pace will never get ahead of his knees or ankles.

And he's also been lucky to not catch any random elbows, knees or step on anybody's foot until now.

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Originally Posted by NemesisKING

Its kind of easy to be durable when you don't run fast, jump high, don't have quick feet, don't play defense or fight for rebounds. To slow to pop or pull a muscle and his slow flat footed pace will never get ahead of his knees or ankles.

And he's also been lucky to not catch any random elbows, knees or step on anybody's foot until now.

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The dude rebounds a lot(#2 for PGs), and is constantly bumped and pushed off balance when going to his patented right hand floater down the lane. Yes, he's slow, but injuries don't come from being fast or athletic.

Why can't people just applaud Vasquez for things he does well? He's been in every game giving everything he has. Whether what he has is good or enough, is another debate that has been burnt out.

Agreed, GI. I'm so over the debate. I wish we could keep him as a backup, he'd be an amazing championship quality backup.

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Originally Posted by NemesisKING

Its kind of easy to be durable when you don't run fast, jump high, don't have quick feet, don't play defense or fight for rebounds. To slow to pop or pull a muscle and his slow flat footed pace will never get ahead of his knees or ankles.

And he's also been lucky to not catch any random elbows, knees or step on anybody's foot until now.

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Um, what?

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

The dude rebounds a lot(#2 for PGs), and is constantly bumped and pushed off balance when going to his patented right hand floater down the lane. Yes, he's slow, but injuries don't come from being fast or athletic.

Why can't people just applaud Vasquez for things he does well? He's been in every game giving everything he has. Whether what he has is good or enough, is another debate that has been burnt out.

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AMEN.

Save Vasquez up for the Heat game when we break that streak!

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

AMEN.

Save Vasquez up for the Heat game when we break that streak!

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Would be nice to break the Nuggets and Heat streak, and totally send the tank crowd into a complete frenzy when we are all of a sudden picking 8th. HAHA I'd love it.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Would be nice to break the Nuggets and Heat streak, and totally send the tank crowd into a complete frenzy when we are all of a sudden picking 8th. HAHA I'd love it.

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Burke train WHOOO WHOOOOOOOOOO

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Would be nice to break the Nuggets and Heat streak, and totally send the tank crowd into a complete frenzy when we are all of a sudden picking 8th. HAHA I'd love it.

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TBH, I don't give a crap about the tank. I want to win tonight, wednesday, and Friday. I want our guys to keep gaining confidence and seeing that this isn't some sinking ship. We can lose out or whatever after that. But I want the players we have now to keep growing that confidence, and winning does that.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

The dude rebounds a lot(#2 for PGs), and is constantly bumped and pushed off balance when going to his patented right hand floater down the lane. Yes, he's slow, but injuries don't come from being fast or athletic.

Why can't people just applaud Vasquez for things he does well? He's been in every game giving everything he has. Whether what he has is good or enough, is another debate that has been burnt out.

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Agreed. I could not believe that comment you quoted. Ridiculous to criticize GV while ignoring facts.

Darius for point! He's the best passer playing tonight:cool:... maybe even on our team in general (and yes i'm serious). We'll just have to see about his other PG skills though lol. Who knows, maybe hes magic johnson:D

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo

Darius for point!

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Ive been waiting for this moment for a while. He always makes at least one killer pass that wows you. I wish he would be more agressive on offense though bc he passes up good looks and often makes one pass too many.

I was over Austin's injury, but now I'm sad again.

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I was over Austin's injury, but now I'm sad again.

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The chance to see Rivers guard Lawson. Man, I wish I could see that. sigh.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

Ive been waiting for this moment for a while. He always makes at least one killer pass that wows you. I wish he would be more agressive on offense though bc he passes up good looks and often makes one pass too many.

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very true

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Originally Posted by NemesisKING

Its kind of easy to be durable when you don't run fast, jump high, don't have quick feet, don't play defense or fight for rebounds. To slow to pop or pull a muscle and his slow flat footed pace will never get ahead of his knees or ankles.

And he's also been lucky to not catch any random elbows, knees or step on anybody's foot until now.

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I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let Greivis Vasquez go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

The dude rebounds a lot(#2 for PGs), and is constantly bumped and pushed off balance when going to his patented right hand floater down the lane. Yes, he's slow, but injuries don't come from being fast or athletic.

Why can't people just applaud Vasquez for things he does well? He's been in every game giving everything he has. Whether what he has is good or enough, is another debate that has been burnt out.

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Thank you.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let Greivis Vasquez go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.

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pahahah

If we were to go on a on a 12 game win streak to finish the season (theoretically speaking), I'd be ecstatic. The tankers would be crushed but the true fan really knows how much confidence that builds for these young guys and how much easier it could make Dell's job this offseason. It'd also help the Monty criticism.

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Originally Posted by IamQuailman

I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let Greivis Vasquez go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will ban you.

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:hihi:

Any other season ticket holders out there get a message today regarding a meeting between Dell and the marketing group? Key things that stuck out to me was.

Regarding the "Team" SF position in priority #1 in the off season and "Definitive core moving forward is Davis, Rivers, Anderson, Vasquez, Lopez, Smith... and "Maybe" Gordon.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Any other season ticket holders out there get a message today regarding a meeting between Dell and the marketing group? Key things that stuck out to me was.

Regarding the "Team" SF position in priority #1 in the off season and "Definitive core moving forward is Davis, Rivers, Anderson, Vasquez, Lopez, Smith... and "Maybe" Gordon.

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I got a call from the rep, but nothing about that.

i sure hope this isn't true... Vasquez and Lopez shouldn't be consider a core of anything.

Depends on what your opinion on what a core is or not.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

i sure hope this isn't true... Vasquez and Lopez shouldn't be consider a core of anything.

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Same as Rivers or Jason Smith. Only reliable core are Davis and Anderson. Gordon is a maybe.

Damnit. Wish Rivers was healthy. This would be a nice game to see what he can do as a starter.

Bench can be part of a core. Trade assets are pieces to a new part of the core.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mojo

pahahah

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Fusion Al -Faryan Anderminu =Championship.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

The dude rebounds a lot(#2 for PGs), and is constantly bumped and pushed off balance when going to his patented right hand floater down the lane. Yes, he's slow, but injuries don't come from being fast or athletic.

Why can't people just applaud Vasquez for things he does well? He's been in every game giving everything he has. Whether what he has is good or enough, is another debate that has been burnt out.

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I never said the "dude" doesn't rebound, he's a 6'6 PG. What i said was that he doesn't fight for rebounds. Again he's 6'6, he gets rebounds, but balls find him, he doesn't find the ball, unless he's trying to get that triple double. On average he has 5-6 inches on the opposing PG on a nightly basis, if they track of PG rebounding, he better be at the top of that list.

With AFA and AD being so active on the boards, there are a lot of balls that are there for others to haul in, with a 7 foot center, balls bounce his way quite often.

And yes i know that any one can get injure regardless of of physical attributes. But the more muscular a guy is, the more prone to pulled muscles they are, the faster a guy moves, the harder it is on the joints to stop and change directions because of the speed he's moving. The collisions when they take place, happen faster and harder, so

A guy who is really active will subject himself to more risk, always fighting for position, hustling on defense, constantly attacking the glass, challenging shots and going up quick and high, means more chances to come down on somebody's foot or catch an elbow. Chasing down loose balls and working hard on defense, means more opportunities for your feet to get tangled and ankles to get turned.

What i'm saying to you GV lovers who seem to get butt hurt every time some one mentions GV and don't praise him is that, because of his lack of physical talent, his chances for injury are limited to the freak accident vs the explosive athlete injury or the hustle injury on top of the freak injuries that often happens. I don't think his great injury history is due to his healthy living, Yoga, therapy and massage treatments.


Durable to me means built to last, he's built with no physical talent, not having any aids him in not getting injured and limits his injury risk to the "freak" injury.

As far as applauding him, his applause is that he's on this team getting a chance that most guys with his level of talent won't, he's getting a chance to earn his paycheck outside of just practice. A chance to play on a rebuilding team with no established talent in front of him and no threat to his playing time behind him, starter minutes to build his NBA reel that will allow him to linger in the league for some years is his applause.

It's the same group of guys that come out to his defense every time, pointing out ever little thing he does in every game thread and you're closed lipped when he looks like the player he is.

Either you were the GV type guys with no talent growing up or you're proud of your heritage and that's why your support of GV is over kill, but either way, I can respect both, but when the clowns who resort to personally insulting people that you don't know on a forum start spitting venom, there is a problem.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Fusion Al -Faryan Anderminu =Championship.

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Yesssir!

Sigh... It would be great if Rivers was healthy right now.

I would be more frustrated if Rivers was healthy since Monty would start Roberts over him. Monty rarely used Rivers right during the season.

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Originally Posted by NemesisKING

I never said the "dude" doesn't rebound, he's a 6'6 PG. What i said was that he doesn't fight for rebounds. Again he's 6'6, he gets rebounds, but balls find him, he doesn't find the ball, unless he's trying to get that triple double. On average he has 5-6 inches on the opposing PG on a nightly basis, if they track of PG rebounding, he better be at the top of that list.

With AFA and AD being so active on the boards, there are a lot of balls that are there for others to haul in, with a 7 foot center, balls bounce his way quite often.

And yes i know that any one can get injure regardless of of physical attributes. But the more muscular a guy is, the more prone to pulled muscles they are, the faster a guy moves, the harder it is on the joints to stop and change directions because of the speed he's moving. The collisions when they take place, happen faster and harder, so

A guy who is really active will subject himself to more risk, always fighting for position, hustling on defense, constantly attacking the glass, challenging shots and going up quick and high, means more chances to come down on somebody's foot or catch an elbow. Chasing down loose balls and working hard on defense, means more opportunities for your feet to get tangled and ankles to get turned.

What i'm saying to you GV lovers who seem to get butt hurt every time some one mentions GV and don't praise him is that, because of his lack of physical talent, his chances for injury are limited to the freak accident vs the explosive athlete injury or the hustle injury on top of the freak injuries that often happens. I don't think his great injury history is due to his healthy living, Yoga, therapy and massage treatments.


Durable to me means built to last, he's built with no physical talent, not having any aids him in not getting injured and limits his injury risk to the "freak" injury.

As far as applauding him, his applause is that he's on this team getting a chance that most guys with his level of talent won't, he's getting a chance to earn his paycheck outside of just practice. A chance to play on a rebuilding team with no established talent in front of him and no threat to his playing time behind him, starter minutes to build his NBA reel that will allow him to linger in the league for some years is his applause.

It's the same group of guys that come out to his defense every time, pointing out ever little thing he does in every game thread and you're closed lipped when he looks like the player he is.

Either you were the GV type guys with no talent growing up or you're proud of your heritage and that's why your support of GV is over kill, but either way, I can respect both, but when the clowns who resort to personally insulting people that you don't know on a forum start spitting venom, there is a problem.

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I'm far from a GV lover, but I'm not a ignorant GV basher like you. Case closed.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Fusion Al -Faryan Anderminu =Championship.

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the post led to me watching 2 hours of dbz videos on youtube.. i miss that **** man

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

Fusion Al -Faryan Anderminu =Championship.

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:rocks::rocks:

Aww man... it might get embarrassing tonight. Can Denver cover a 40-poiint spread? Sheez... no GV and no EG. Not that we were gonna win with them, but this one might get ugly quick.

Anthony Point-Center Davis

I'd like my crow fried with a side of curly fries and a strawberry Fanta.

Great game all-around... Bryan Roberts with a huge game at the point, and Darius Miller had his "coming-out" party.

Great win... man I wish we can end the eat streak on Friday too because I'm tired of hearing about it. But these guys showed me alot tonight. Great win!

^ It was a fun watch. :)

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Depends on what your opinion on what a core is or not.

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Well I'm sure based on ones personal feelings and motivations it can mean just about anything someone wants it to mean. In those cases I wouldn't expect anything to deter that person from their way of seeing things.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

I got a call from the rep, but nothing about that.

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I got an e-mail saying that the marketing team was meeting with Dell and asked for fan questions. Said Dell promised full candid answers to any question posed, (with-in reason). Those comments came from the follow e-mail I received yesterday. Seems like teaser information. Ticket rep said to call him for more in-depth information , (esp. regarding Gordon....) I took it to be bait to get me to renew my season tickets or upgrade. (which I'm not sure I will, My son and I had a blast this season, but really the drive to and from Baton Rouge on week nights was killer. We'll be going to select Pelicans games in 2013-2014 but as far as season tickets, we'll probably be going to the Johnny Jones show at LSU next season.) Anyway i was just wondering if anyone else had gotten an email like that.

btw, along with saying SF was the priority this off season, the E-mail also said that the team plans to be very active in the FA market and is confident that the new training facility will help get over the hump of attracting quality FA's. (Didn't really say it but I get the idea that the lack of said facilities has lost them some players in the past.)

Season ticket reps aren't going to leave out the names of Vasquez & Lopez when talking about the future. They're under contract next year. There's no reason to speculate when it comes to selling tickets. A lot of fans like Vasquez because he plays hard. Plus, the GM isn't going to tell a sales rep if he plans on trading someone.

I still think Vasquez is gone most likely this offseason and that Lopez will be gone by the trade deadline or offseason next year when Davis slides into the Center position.

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Originally Posted by bradael

Season ticket reps aren't going to leave out the names of Vasquez & Lopez when talking about the future. They're under contract next year. There's no reason to speculate when it comes to selling tickets. A lot of fans like Vasquez because he plays hard. Plus, the GM isn't going to tell a sales rep if he plans on trading someone.

I still think Vasquez is gone most likely this offseason and that Lopez will be gone by the trade deadline or offseason next year when Davis slides into the Center position.

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Exactly. And I want Lopez on this team next year.

Just coming off the bench.

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Originally Posted by bradael

Season ticket reps aren't going to leave out the names of Vasquez & Lopez when talking about the future. They're under contract next year. There's no reason to speculate when it comes to selling tickets. A lot of fans like Vasquez because he plays hard. Plus, the GM isn't going to tell a sales rep if he plans on trading someone.

I still think Vasquez is gone most likely this offseason and that Lopez will be gone by the trade deadline or offseason next year when Davis slides into the Center position.

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Originally Posted by Davisistheman

Well I'm sure based on ones personal feelings and motivations it can mean just about anything someone wants it to mean. In those cases I wouldn't expect anything to deter that person from their way of seeing things.

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