1st March - New Orleans Pelicans VS Los Angeles Lakers - 26-33

Oh look.... it’s a bird... it’s a plane.....

Nope..... it’s just Jrue SUCKING AGAIN in another big game

11 points with 2 turnovers and a -7.

Way to go bud. Cant wait for you to put up 30 against a crappy team!

Really glad we kept you!

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

Oh look.... it’s a bird... it’s a plane.....

Nope..... it’s just Jrue SUCKING AGAIN in another big game

11 points with 2 turnovers and a -7.

Way to go bud. Cant wait for you to put up 30 against a crappy team!

Really glad we kept you!

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Just keep beating that dead horse...

Endgame Statlines

Zion: 35 points, 7 rebounds. 12/16 shooting (75%), and 11/13 from FT line (83.6%). 6 turnovers, 2 fouls*
Ingram: 15 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists. 5/23 shooting (21.7%), 1/9 from 3 (11.1%). 3 turnovers, 5 fouls.
Jrue: 11 points, 5 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals. 4/10 shooting (40%), 2/6 from 3 (33.3%). 2 turnovers, 2 fouls.
Favors: 12 points, 14 rebounds, 1 steal, 1 block. 5/12 shooting (41.7%). 1 foul.
Lonzo: 19 points, 9 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals. 7/15 shooting (46.7%), 1/7 from 3 (14.3%). 3 turnovers, 0 fouls.


Bench

Hart: 7/6/3, 3/5 shooting, 1 turnover, 1 foul.
Melli: 10pts, 2 boards, 2/8 shooting, 0 turnovers, 0 fouls, 1 tech
Moore: 5/3/3, 2/4 shooting, 0 turnovers, 0 fouls
Frank: 0/2/1, 0/2 shooting, 2 turnovers.


*At least 2 of Zion's turnovers were uncalled fouls tho, let's be real :hihi:

Lebron- 34 and the win; Zion-35. I don't want to say wasted effort by Zion with the loss but he's going to knock Lebron off his throne once he's surrounded by a team that supports him better.

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Originally Posted by sterlr

I told you BI craps in the bed against good competition...not worth the max. Dude gets overpowered too much, that's the reason he loses the ball so much. Team is just too small to play the ball needed to compliment Zion. Also, the basketball IQ of the team is less than 20, Lakers played through Lebron the whole Qtr. but the Pelicans refuse to do the same with Zion? That's on the head coach...too bad we don't have one worth a crap.

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Terrible night for him but this is definitely an overstatement.. You don't average 25PPG on high efficiency, while doing a solid job on the boards, and assists for a wing for the entirety of a season, and warrant the critique you leveled.

Sh*t on our fan base. We had to deal with this all last season and then to just get swept. PATHETIC!

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Originally Posted by HartOfaPelican

Oh look.... it’s a bird... it’s a plane.....

Nope..... it’s just Jrue SUCKING AGAIN in another big game

11 points with 2 turnovers and a -7.

Way to go bud. Cant wait for you to put up 30 against a crappy team!

Really glad we kept you!

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Jrue 4-10..... Ingram 5-23 3TO


You guys love to punch at Jrue but defend Ingram with your last breathe.

We just need more experience. That’s it. More seasoning will go a long way.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Just keep beating that dead horse...

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I will. Every single time! Till all the Jrue lives get it that he’s not a big game or a clutch player.

Lonzo, Zion and Melli played their butts off tonight..too bad the rest of the team didn't show up. Hope Mrs. Benson doesn't keep Gentry next year, I don't know if the fan base can take much more of this coaching staff's style.

I think Zion could have handled Zion on the block during that stretch where the Lakers pulled away.

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Originally Posted by sterlr

I told you BI craps in the bed against good competition...not worth the max. Dude gets overpowered too much, that's the reason he loses the ball so much.

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I've said it before: I hope to god Ingram doesn't make an all-NBA team this year. If he does, he qualifies for the 30% max. He is absolutely not worth that.

The 25% max is expensive, but he's a legitimate scorer and plays a position of need, and his shooting is valuable around someone like Zion. But 30% with 8% increases is a no-go for me.

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Sh*t on our fan base. We had to deal with this all last season and then to just get swept. PATHETIC!

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...that's a team that could win a title out there we just go swept by. That's hardly pathetic. I know, uber hyperbolic is your thing, but yeesh...

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Originally Posted by boot318

Jrue 4-10..... Ingram 5-23 3TO


You guys love to punch at Jrue but defend Ingram with your last breathe.

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How old is BI? Who just went to the All Star game?

I don’t even talk about BI at all. However, to compare the two is laughable!

Whatever man.

Just whatever.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

...that's a team that could win a title out there we just go swept by. That's hardly pathetic. I know, uber hyperbolic is your thing, but yeesh...

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I know. Moral victories is your thing. Sheesh.

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Originally Posted by boot318

Jrue 4-10..... Ingram 5-23 3TO


You guys love to punch at Jrue but defend Ingram with your last breathe.

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Try using Twitter after one of these games.

Many of the Lakers fans who came over after the AD trade are fine. But there are a certain subset of them who believe that Lonzo is secretly Magic Johnson and Ingram is basically Jesus, and they can do no wrong; meanwhile, Jrue sucks, Zion needs to accept he's 2nd fiddle to Ingram, Favors is garbage, etc etc.

Ingram is the least of our worries. Ingram is 22 friggin' years old. My God...

And I was President of the "Tatum > Ingram" club. Got an award for "Most References of Ingram to a Beanpole" somewhere buried under shoes in my closet.

We need Jax to develop into a solid Rim Protector

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Terrible night for him but this is definitely an overstatement.. You don't average 25PPG on high efficiency, while doing a solid job on the boards, and assists for a wing for the entirety of a season, and warrant the critique you leveled.

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If you only want to win against lower tier teams then keep that attitude. Most of the fan base want the team to be relevant when it counts. Do you want to strive for championships or for the playoffs only. I want higher aspirations for this team.

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Originally Posted by UNO Gracias

We just need more experience. That’s it. More seasoning will go a long way.

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Mehhhh... I really don't think the complementary pieces that mesh well. We got a lot of dudes that do one or two things well, but that aren't how good teams are built. Like your two starting guards being non-factor streaky shooter. Lacking size and defense at wing. And let's not talk about our situation at 5s.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Try using Twitter after one of these games.

Many of the Lakers fans who came over after the AD trade are fine. But there are a certain subset of them who believe that Lonzo is secretly Magic Johnson and Ingram is basically Jesus, and they can do no wrong; meanwhile, Jrue sucks, Zion needs to accept he's 2nd fiddle to Ingram, Favors is garbage, etc etc.

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Actually a lot of Laker fans couldn't wait to get rid of Zo, thought he was too passive, and he couldn't shoot while he played with the Lakers. He's playing better here though.

and its obvious we need JJ badly

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I know. Moral victories is your thing. Sheesh.

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Hardly. We just got beat by a team I despise. But it's not pathetic. It's an expected outcome. Pathetic would being getting swept by the Warriors right now or losing by 50 points.

Oh wait. We did the last one.

All we need is a different coach. That’s it! This team is competing by talent alone. Imagine if they actually had an offense or coach that didn’t constantly put them in a defensive mismatch.

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Originally Posted by AtlPelsFan

I HATE THIS ********ING TEAM ..FIRE THE GM AND THE COACH.. WHY DO WE PLAY LIKE ************** VS THE LAKERS.

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JUST SHUT THE F UP MAN , GO CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK

Zion is a force unlike any recent rookie in the NBA, but Lebron is just on a different level with his control of the game. I have a hard time saying we should win any game against that dude when he's playing like this--- when they want to, they can go to an iso with him and it will produce a layup, a foul, or an open shot, and he keeps their turnovers down. Zion's handle isn't at a place where he can do that, and BI (especially) and Jrue were both bad, and that isn't Lonzo's game.

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Originally Posted by sterlr

If you only want to win only against lower tier teams then keep that attitude. Most of the fan base want the team to be relevant when it counts. Do you want to strive for championships or for the playoffs only. I want higher aspirations for this team.

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Your premise is off. It just simply isn't true that he only plays well against lower tier teams. So your conclusion is derived from a fallacy.

I will agree that he played poorly this game.. but you don't average what he's averaged this season at 22 years old and not be deserving of a max. Nor do you push a narrative that he's been poor against good teams.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Hardly. We just got beat by a team I despise. But it's not pathetic. It's an expected outcome. Pathetic would being getting swept by the Warriors right now or losing by 50 points.

Oh wait. We did the last one.

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Also blew a 20 pt lead to the Warriors

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Originally Posted by PelicanNation

and its obvious we need JJ badly

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You forgot about how much he scored last time against them? 1 point......

[QUOTE=Fedupfan;1525758]Sh*t on our fan base. We had to deal with this all last season and then to just get swept. PATHETIC
Getting FED UP with you fedup

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Hardly. We just got beat by a team I despise. But it's not pathetic. It's an expected outcome. Pathetic would being getting swept by the Warriors right now or losing by 50 points.

Oh wait. We did the last one.

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I’m just not with the excuses for Alvin anymore. He isn’t cutting it and that’s holding this team back.

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Originally Posted by Pelicanidae

Try using Twitter after one of these games.

Many of the Lakers fans who came over after the AD trade are fine. But there are a certain subset of them who believe that Lonzo is secretly Magic Johnson and Ingram is basically Jesus, and they can do no wrong; meanwhile, Jrue sucks, Zion needs to accept he's 2nd fiddle to Ingram, Favors is garbage, etc etc.

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What a laughable remark.

Nobody here believes Zion is second fiddle to BI! We are clearly better with favors! Zo was one assist and one rebound short of a triple double.... and he’s been playing amazing.

And we all know Jrue sucks when it counts except for you and a few others!

Lebron has done this forever

Snatches souls and conquers

He traded them other lakers cause they didnt have the heatt the playoffs

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Your premise is off. It just simply isn't true that he only plays well against lower tier teams. So your conclusion is derived from a fallacy.

I will agree that he played poorly this game.. but you don't average what he's averaged this season at 22 years old and not be deserving of a max. Nor do you push a narrative that he's been poor against good teams.

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What he thinks he's saying is he's done poorly in national televised marquee matchup games. And he has more than he hasn't.

To act like Ingram is a problem and imply he's not worth retaining is ludicrous. First decent SF we've had in over a decade? We're keeping him until a better option presents itself.

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Originally Posted by boot318

You forgot about how much he scored last time against them? 1 point......

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he plays more of a decoy role because he attracts alot of attention with his movement offball. He affects the game even if he isnt hitting shots a floor spacer.

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Originally Posted by Speakthetruth

Lebron has done this forever

Snatches souls and conquers

He traded them other lakers cause they didnt have the heatt the playoffs

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I can accept LeBron doing us dirty. I just wish we put up a bigger fight and made it at least look like he needed to try hard.

[QUOTE=djrnno;1525784]

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

Sh*t on our fan base. We had to deal with this all last season and then to just get swept. PATHETIC
Getting FED UP with you fedup

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I’m glad you aren’t my wife or paying my mortgage. Then I would care.

Gentry has such a loser mentality

We have guys you build around. You have

Zion
BI
Jrue
Zo
Melli
Hart

Those are 5 guys who can play key roles on a championship team. They need experience in order to build up to being winners. Getting to the playoffs will help in that growth. A sweep is inconsequential to me as it still gives them experience.

Obviously we need to fill in parts of this roster with pieces to get them to the promised land, but we don’t control that aspect, we do control the guys under contract, and we need to get those guys on this team all the seasoning we can get them.

Cnat even blame the refs tonight

Zion took. More free throws than the entire laker team

And as a team we took 33 free throws and they took 10

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Originally Posted by Freyfamilyreuni

Gentry has such a loser mentality

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He absolutely does. He blames the players. Never himself.

So no Zion Wednesday vs the Mavericks?

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Originally Posted by Fedupfan

I’m just not with the excuses for Alvin anymore. He isn’t cutting it and that’s holding this team back.

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Oh you and me are of one accord here. Alvin Gentry needs to be relocated to a purely strategy and overseeing position. When his offense works the first 80% of the game, it's glorious and fun. But he isn't a game manager. His after time outs plays suck doodle, and I think there's something to be said for a new face calling the shots.

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Originally Posted by Nichols

Your premise is off. It just simply isn't true that he only plays well against lower tier teams. So your conclusion is derived from a fallacy.

I will agree that he played poorly this game.. but you don't average what he's averaged this season at 22 years old and not be deserving of a max. Nor do you push a narrative that he's been poor against good teams.

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He played poorly last game against the Lakers...dude doesn't see the floor like he should. He still seems to be in competition with Zion. Being 22 yrs old is not an excuse...he's been in the league enough years to develop.

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Originally Posted by Freyfamilyreuni

So no Zion Wednesday vs the Mavericks?

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Why wouldnt he play

Gentry isnt the reason nobody can defend lebron

In more positive news, Zion has now extended his All-Time Record 20 point games by a teenager streak to 11. The previous record, remember, was 9, held by rookie Melo.

The longest streak of 20 point games by any rookie regardless of age since 2000 is 14 games, held by rookie Blake. Zion's well on his way towards grabbing that record too.

He now has a career total of 362 points in 15 games. That makes an average of 24.1 per game. He is now 19th in total points scored by a rookie despite playing only 15 games.

24.1 points per game is 17th in the NBA, 1st among rookies (Ja Morant is in 2nd place there with 17.7 per game).

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Originally Posted by Speakthetruth

Why wouldnt he play

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Back to back

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Originally Posted by Speakthetruth

Why wouldnt he play

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We got told when he came back that he wouldn't play back to backs. So unless they've changed their mind on that, we shouldn't expect him to play.