Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by Harvey

Are you kidding? I'm a New Orleans native. There is nothing about the Charlotte Hornets I give a darn about.

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Ha, that's awesome. I'll never forget Harvey giving us a heads up on the Peja signing and Tyson trade. That was a great offseason. Post more Harvey.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

IMO, the problem isn't financial it's that you probably have to give up picks in order to get Bledsoe even if you also take back Knight. I really don't see players passing up the super max. Wall will sign it. Which means we'd have to trade for him after he signs it in order to get him, but we won't really have valuable picks.

Only way I see us getting Wall is if players on our team up their value. Holiday, Hill, Diallo, whoever. It sounds crazy now, but if Holiday is healthy and balling and Hill takes a leap... then we have a chance. But then we probably would be less interested in Wall for $40m per.

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In Phx eyes, Knights contract is nastier than Asik. If we took Knight, a 1st rounder would possibly be taken off the deal. Asik,Ajinca,Q-pon, Crawford, Moore & all unguaranteed's xould all be put on the table plus a 1st round unprotected. Maybe. Thus- Negotiations

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Originally Posted by Tinman

In Phx eyes, Knights contract is nastier than Asik. If we took Knight, a 1st rounder would possibly be taken off the deal. Asik,Ajinca,Q-pon, Crawford, Moore & all unguaranteed's xould all be put on the table plus a 1st round unprotected. Maybe. Thus- Negotiations

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I'm not sure I agree. But, "thus- negotiations".

I would take knight over the corpse of Asik. At least he can score. He's better than anything currently on our bench.

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

I would take knight over the corpse of Asik. At least he can score. He's better than anything currently on our bench.

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But the Asik mistake will go away sooner than Knight's would

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

But the Asik mistake will go away sooner than Knight's would

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If you had to bet on one of these two players becoming a valuable contributor to a team with playoff hopes, it's easily Brandon Knight. He's being paid backup guard money. If he's healthy I'd easily take him.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

If you had to bet on one of these two players becoming a valuable contributor to a team with playoff hopes, it's easily Brandon Knight. He's being paid backup guard money. If he's healthy I'd easily take him.

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My money is on the player we get from the $21 million extra dollars we have to spend.

Asik for Knight is classic "Cost vs. Upside" with a hint of "grass is greener."

I think Knight having a borderline all star season with Milwaukee is worth taking a flyer on IF the cost is Asik. I could also see Phx being done with Knight, his best days obviously aren't in the Arizona, and the opportunity to get out of that deal sooner while they rebuild being valuable.

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

My money is on the player we get from the $21 million extra dollars we have to spend.

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$21m? Where's that coming from?

And basically you're betting on unknown player X, who wants to sign in NOLA, being signed in 2 years by Dell Demps who has a track record that features Gordon, Asik, Hill and Moore.

Nah...
No thanks.

MM has been on Twitter guaranting a trade will happen by today now someone called him out on it and he's now saying by training camp . If nothing happens today I hope this clears up the MM has insider info phenomenon but If something does happen today then he deserves credit . We'll see


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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

MM has been on Twitter guaranting a trade will happen by today now someone called him out on it and he's now saying by training camp . If nothing happens today I hope this clears up the MM has insider info phenomenon but If something does happen today then he deserves credit . We'll see


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I wouldn't be upset or happy if he was found to be right (or wrong). I work in IBanking, deals fall apart at the closing table all the time. In the NBA where you have more variables I imagine deals die more often.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

$21m? Where's that coming from?

And basically you're betting on unknown player X, who wants to sign in NOLA, being signed in 2 years by Dell Demps who has a track record that features Gordon, Asik, Hill and Moore.

Nah...
No thanks.

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That's the difference between the $24 million Asik has left vs the $45 million Knight has left.

I'd guess a trade would happen after summer league. Showcase our lesser contracts and make sure no injuries happen along with axel being able to be traded I think in a couple days.

I think as for knight, we look to be surrounding AD and DC with combo guards that can shoot and play defense. I think knight can do that. My thing is at least we can play him and if we can miraculously trade for a maxed out Wall, we can trade Jrue (25 mil) and knight (15 mil) and whatever else should be enough dollar wise. Maybe a change of scenery helps BK just look at EG, he turned into 6th man of the year.

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

MM has been on Twitter guaranting a trade will happen by today now someone called him out on it and he's now saying by training camp . If nothing happens today I hope this clears up the MM has insider info phenomenon but If something does happen today then he deserves credit . We'll see


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Today is the day that our unguaranteed contracts could be traded. I believe that is what he was counting on. If we don't hear anything by today, I think that tells us the Pelicans haven't had something lined up this whole time. Which means we sat out of free agency in possibly the most important offseason of the franchise, all because of hopes and dreams. How awesome does that sound?

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Ha, that's awesome. I'll never forget Harvey giving us a heads up on the Peja signing and Tyson trade. That was a great offseason. Post more Harvey.

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Originally Posted by NMThreeMVP

$21m? Where's that coming from?

And basically you're betting on unknown player X, who wants to sign in NOLA, being signed in 2 years by Dell Demps who has a track record that features Gordon, Asik, Hill and Moore.

Nah...
No thanks.

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He's getting the 21 million from --We owe Asik 24 guaranteed . Knights contract is 45 million. Not to mention, Asik can be bought out for 3 million in final year. Knight would still be 15 million a year CAP hit. Btw, 15 million is certainly not back-up $$$ . Erwin Moores salary is back-up money. Shawn Livingston is back-up money. NOT 15 million

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

Today is the day that our unguaranteed contracts could be traded. I believe that is what he was counting on. If we don't hear anything by today, I think that tells us the Pelicans haven't had something lined up this whole time. Which means we sat out of free agency in possibly the most important offseason of the franchise, all because of hopes and dreams. How awesome does that sound?

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Let's trade these unguaranteed contracts to Boston for Bradley. Oh wait..

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

MM has been on Twitter guaranting a trade will happen by today now someone called him out on it and he's now saying by training camp . If nothing happens today I hope this clears up the MM has insider info phenomenon but If something does happen today then he deserves credit . We'll see


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Well I spoke to my sources with God and I predict it will rain by next week to this day! I stop listening to this troll who just loves the attention.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Asik for Knight is classic "Cost vs. Upside" with a hint of "grass is greener."

I think Knight having a borderline all star season with Milwaukee is worth taking a flyer on IF the cost is Asik. I could also see Phx being done with Knight, his best days obviously aren't in the Arizona, and the opportunity to get out of that deal sooner while they rebuild being valuable.

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Agreed. This kind of gives me a Howard (Asik)- Plumlee (Knight) vibe where we get rid of a player we clearly don't want on the team in exchange for a player, with a bad contract, but high upside. Knight would never be my first option, but it may be our only. If this happens, I'll be more happy for NM than for us, but I would get the gamble if Asik is moved in the process and nothing better comes along.

Knight had a bad season on a young team in a new system. He is 25, and while he is making $13m, $14m, and $15m over the next 3 years, you get out from that contract while he is still in his 20s.
Call me crazy, but I take that deal. Way to much upside to pass up on. But if gettin Bledsoe and Knight prevents us from landing Wall, then it's a hard pass for me.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

Agreed. This kind of gives me a Howard (Asik)- Plumlee (Knight) vibe where we get rid of a player we clearly don't want on the team in exchange for a player, with a bad contract, but high upside. Knight would never be my first option, but it may be our only. If this happens, I'll be more happy for NM than for us, but I would get the gamble if Asik is moved in the process and nothing better comes along.

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Why would we give up Asiks 25 mill to pay a back-up 15 mill for 3 years. Asik is bought for 3 million in 3 yrs. Knight will still be on the books for 15. Plus, Knights contract would affect the Boogie contract. We still have Oppo to stretch Asik if need be next year to make room for Boogie. But, if we take Knight, there ain't no stretching & that 15 mill could/would impede on Boogie. AD/Jrue/Bledsoe/Hill is 77 million. So, you wanna add Knights 15? How you gonna pay Boogie?

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Originally Posted by PolishFan

Let's trade these unguaranteed contracts to Boston for Bradley. Oh wait..

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You joke, but I worry that may have been our plan. :(

In a vacuum I would trade Asik for Knight. The problem is not for both Bledsoe and Knight. Knight's contract is terrible for us with needing to resign Cousins next year and if we had Bledsoe we'd need to resign him too soon.

Basically, I'd give up the farm for Bledsoe but I'd be hard pressed to want both.

The New York Knicks have $35.52 MILLION (36% of the total cap) locked up on Tim Hardaway Jr. and Joakim Noah next season.

— Hardwood Paroxysm (@HPbasketball) July 8, 2017

Sources with @WindhorstESPN: James Harden and Rockets are progressing toward deal on biggest contract extension in NBA history.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 8, 2017

This will presumably be the 2nd use of the new DVPE. This time in extension form after Stephen Curry became 1st to get a new deal with it. https://t.co/4wjI7Dtf6U

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 8, 2017

68 pages, and all we have to show for it is re-signing Jrue and adding Miller.

C'mon Dell, we're getting inpatient.

Can I change my user to TradeForBledsoe just for this off-season?