In Defense of Monty - A Theory

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Please read the post you skipped right above this.

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I read it. Makes sense. We posted at the same time. Hard to see every post and post from a phone.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

There was no drop off from west to Landry. Tbh Landry stepped up and handled his business and Okafor was solid man. Chandler avg 11-11 while Okafor avg 10-10. From top to bottom Monty had the much better roster.

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Chandler was way more efficient than Okafor especially offensively. He gave CP3 alot of easy assists and teams had to watch for that. Raw numbers don't tell the story on how Chandler was way more impactful than Okafor. Also Peja was a force that year and CP3 was so much better as well.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

I read it. Makes sense. We posted at the same time. Hard to see every post and post from a phone.

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I looked at the times of the posts and realized this, which is why I went and edited my post. Knew you wouldn't deliberately skip over a post.

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Originally Posted by FlyGirl

Okay RTB, I gotcha.

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I was just wondering if you heard different that contradicted that original post.

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

Oh I agree, but there are other factors that needed to be considered. Was just pointing them out.

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yea i agree but I'm just pointing out monty could of done more with what he had at the time. the west injury didn't help fopr the playoffs but landry stepped up and averaged west reg season #'s in the playoffs. minus him tho that roster was really deep monty had. his rotations that year were absolutely atrocious as well. sticking it to thornton and pondexter cause they were young. I'm just sick of it man. withey should be playing 25 min a game at this point ATLEAST. considering the guys on the roster at his position. especially considering the few min he does get all he does is produce.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Chandler was way more efficient than Okafor especially offensively. He gave CP3 alot of easy assists and teams had to watch for that. Raw numbers don't tell the story on how Chandler was way more impactful than Okafor. Also Peja was a force that year and CP3 was so much better as well.

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i know that but just pointing out okafor was no slouch at the same time. like i said monty had the much better roster from to bottom.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Chandler was way more efficient than Okafor especially offensively. He gave CP3 alot of easy assists and teams had to watch for that. Raw numbers don't tell the story on how Chandler was way more impactful than Okafor. Also Peja was a force that year and CP3 was so much better as well.

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I decided to check the advanced stats and chandler was slightly better not way more efficient. No way no how. Here is the breakdown.
Chandler/okafor
Ts% 63-59
Efg% 62-57
Orb% 13-12
Drb% 26-24
Trb% 19-18
Ast% 4-3
Blk% 2-5
Stl% 1-1
Tov% 15-15
Usg% 14-15
Ortg% 122-112
Drtg% 104-102
Ows 6-3
Dws 4-4
Ws 10-7
Ws/48 .172-.136
I don't claim to be an expert on advanced stats like these but looking at those numbers the drop off is very small if any. These are the numbers for the 2 playoff runs for each.

I am surprised till now there are still people defending Monty...
It's reasonable to say maybe he should stay till the end of this season. But I think AD deserves to get more wins and stay happy with a new coach.
We are not healthy, in my mind Monty is the partly the reason for the heath issue. If he used young players more, we may have a healthier team now. Except for Ryno, both Smith's and Holiday's injury were sort of accumulated things. What's worse, after those injuries, he has developed a new standard of putting players of court: age orders. That's the only explanation I could come up with for putting Steamer there first, then Ajinca and Withey at last. Maybe that's also why Brian Roberts is start now. Is there an least average age limit in NBA rules that I didn't notice?

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

I think some ppl on here defend Monty to argue for the sake arguing lol.

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THIS.

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Originally Posted by Silverfoxx

THIS.

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I like the signature :hihi:

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Originally Posted by hesterhu

I am surprised till now there are still people defending Monty...
It's reasonable to say maybe he should stay till the end of this season. But I think AD deserves to get more wins and stay happy with a new coach.
We are not healthy, in my mind Monty is the partly the reason for the heath issue. If he used young players more, we may have a healthier team now. Except for Ryno, both Smith's and Holiday's injury were sort of accumulated things. What's worse, after those injuries, he has developed a new standard of putting players of court: age orders. That's the only explanation I could come up with for putting Steamer there first, then Ajinca and Withey at last. Maybe that's also why Brian Roberts is start now. Is there an least average age limit in NBA rules that I didn't notice?

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C'mon I'm all for Monty being gone after the year but now it's his fault for the injuries too??? Wow

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

C'mon I'm all for Monty being gone after the year but now it's his fault for the injuries too??? Wow

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I just think if he use some of the young players early, the team may be healthier. And the young players should be playing more confident and maybe better than they are now.

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I blame Monty for ruining this site. Rabble Rabble!

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Originally Posted by WhoDatPelican

I blame Monty for ruining this site. Rabble Rabble!

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FINALLY. A fair criticism!

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