Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

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Originally Posted by Big-EZ

Tyreke's brothers' twitter accounts say a lot

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What are they

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

What are they

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https://mobile.twitter.com/Bluprintceo
He is tweeting that they have love for Sac area, yet retweeting Pelican fans about how we are excited and ready for him to become a Pelican

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Originally Posted by Big-EZ

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bluprintceo
He is tweeting that they have love for Sac area, yet retweeting Pelican fans about how we are excited and ready for him to become a Pelican

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Doesn't he have a few brothers though? I keep losing track in the mess.

I predicted that by this page we'd have our answer...

Tch. I might've undershot it by about 20 pages.

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Originally Posted by Big-EZ

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bluprintceo
He is tweeting that they have love for Sac area, yet retweeting Pelican fans about how we are excited and ready for him to become a Pelican

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Another CJ Paul huh! LOL

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Originally Posted by The Pelican Fan

Doesn't he have a few brothers though? I keep losing track in the mess.

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3 older ones. They are basically mentor/managers to him.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Another CJ Paul huh! LOL

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Our luck could possibly be that bad.

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m

Earlier story clearly pointed in this direction, but just heard Pelicans & Tyreke Evans are indeed now in process of finalizing offer sheet

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) tweeted at 8:33 PM on Wed, Jul 03, 2013:
Earlier story clearly pointed in this direction, but just heard Pelicans & Tyreke Evans are indeed now in process of finalizing offer sheet

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0b7aXmHYJI

You can see more about his brothers and the relationship he has with them here.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine) tweeted at 8:33 PM on Wed, Jul 03, 2013:
Earlier story clearly pointed in this direction, but just heard Pelicans & Tyreke Evans are indeed now in process of finalizing offer sheet

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I'm trying not to smile b/c I know that all of these negotiations will go to shreds if Sacramento decides to match our offer sheet.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Another CJ Paul huh! LOL

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:eek::help: lol please don't say that lol

Kings fan saying Vasquez is as good of a defender as Evans:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...h-or-not/page2

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...every defensive metric I can find points to Vasquez being an on-par defender with Reke. He's also an equally good rebounder. Think a bigger prime Andre Miller if you want a comparison.

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Originally Posted by PelsFan2313

I'm trying not to smile b/c I know that all of these negotiations will go to shreds if Sacramento decides to match our offer sheet.

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Indeed. Agreeing to sign is only the conclusion to act 1. When he signs it is the start of act II. The end of that act will be if the Kings match.

We aren't even half way through this dang thang.

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Originally Posted by donato

Kings fan saying Vasquez is as good of a defender as Evans:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...h-or-not/page2

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The grass over there sure looks green...

Oh yeah Kings, he's a real lock down defender.

Evans brother's twitter has nothing of us on it. He's simply using all of the publicity his brother is getting right now to pimp his ventures. He's simply retweeting others comments and saying nothing other than "we don't hate Sac."

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Originally Posted by donato

Kings fan saying Vasquez is as good of a defender as Evans:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...h-or-not/page2

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Oh god. What if they're right and we've had it all wrong this entire time!?!?!?!?!? Vasquez = Evans and is cheaper. . . . #panicbutton.

We got the verbal agreement!

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

We got the verbal agreement!

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Sweet!

Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick 3m
Tyreke Evans has given the New Orleans Pelicans a verbal agreement that he'll sign the four-year, $44 million offer sheet, I'm told.ESPN 1st

Remember, verbal agreement means we have to trade Lopez now, even if we find out Sacto plans to match. Dangerous game

IMO, the NBA and players need to come to an agreement to restructure free agency. This **** is ridiculous! You can negotiate 10 days before signings are allowed.

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Originally Posted by GameBreaker

IMO, the NBA and players need to come to an agreement to restructure free agency. This **** is ridiculous! You can negotiate 10 days before signings are allowed.

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And then teams have that long to decide if they wanna match or not.


Also, holy crap. I was right!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Remember, verbal agreement means we have to trade Lopez now, even if we find out Sacto plans to match. Dangerous game

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Why?

Nice. But I'd still rather a sign and trade because it guarantees he comes here rather than us dumping a player or two to make room for him, only to have Sacramento match.

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Originally Posted by Pantazis76

Why?

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I suppose it's because we need the cap space, but I don't actually know.

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Originally Posted by GameBreaker

IMO, the NBA and players need to come to an agreement to restructure free agency. This **** is ridiculous! You can negotiate 10 days before signings are allowed.

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I wonder what the original intent of this was? Makes no sense that he has to wait until the 10th and then kings get three days to match n the entire time the pelicans have to act like its already spent $. Giving up players in case kings don't match. Dumb policy IMO

I'm okay, after much deliberation, with the deal itself. But if we lose Robin Lopez for absolutely nothing, I'd be pretty upset.

BTW can we get some topic title editing here? It hasn't been a rumor for three days and we've just taken the next step.

Does anyone think that the Kings are forced to match given that they have a new ownership group and have to show they're serious about putting a good product out on the court?

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Originally Posted by bradael

Nice. But I'd still rather a sign and trade because it guarantees he comes here rather than us dumping a player or two to make room for him, only to have Sacramento match.

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we still have time to pull something off via S&T....a little less time than they have to match...

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Originally Posted by Jackaveli

I wonder what the original intent of this was? Makes no sense that he has to wait until the 10th and then kings get three days to match n the entire time the pelicans have to act like its already spent $. Giving up players in case kings don't match. Dumb policy IMO

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Yeah, I thought it was dumb last year. Now I think it's really dumb.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

BTW can we get some topic title editing here? It hasn't been a rumor for three days and we've just taken the next step.

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I wouldn't be calling for that just yet. According to sources, no one knows what the hell is going on, and someone may come in at the last minute like a thief in the night. The Kings could also just ruin the party themselves, because they may feel like they don't want to disappoint their fanbase with a empty-handed FA period.

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Originally Posted by Primetime

Does anyone think that the Kings are forced to match given that they have a new ownership group and have to show they're serious about putting a good product out on the court?

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This very well could be the case after their whiff on Iggy. This definitely will cost us at least Vasquez who the Kings still may not want.

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse985

I wouldn't be calling for that just yet. According to sources, no one knows what the hell is going on, and someone may come in at the last minute like a thief in the night. The Kings could also just ruin the party themselves, because they may feel like they don't want to disappoint their fanbase with a empty-handed FA period.

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Thread is still not about a rumor anymore. But eh.

This is all a diversion.

We're going to actually just swoop up Dwight.








Back when Anthony was 6'3" they decided to play together. So Dwight gave him some of that growth harmone he's been using.

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Originally Posted by bradael

Nice. But I'd still rather a sign and trade because it guarantees he comes here rather than us dumping a player or two to make room for him, only to have Sacramento match.

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I wonder if our offer prohibits a S&T. I say that because there has been a lot of speculation that the structure of the contract includes a trade kicker to dissuade the Kings from matching (in case they think they can match and deal him elsewhere). If indeed it does have a kicker in the structure, once the Kings sign him (as he would want the same structure we offered) and try to trade to us, I would think that the kicker would activate making him much more expensive to us.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

I wonder if our offer prohibits a S&T. I say that because there has been a lot of speculation that the structure of the contract includes a trade kicker to dissuade the Kings from matching (in case they think they can match and deal him elsewhere). If indeed it does have a kicker in the structure, once the Kings sign him (as he would want the same structure we offered) and try to trade to us, I would think that the kicker would activate making him much more expensive to us.

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I don't see why you can't remove the trade kicker if we do a S&T.

BTW, Arn Tellem is the agent for Robin Lopez, Quincy Pondexter, Greivis Vasquez, Tyreke Evans, and Anthony Davis. I'd say he can pretty much dictate what happens here.

Wow! before Evans agreed we had 80 pages. Now that he did we barely got 4 pages!

Mods can we start a part 2 of this thread.....


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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Wow! before Evans agreed we had 80 pages. Now that he did we barely got 4 pages!

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Because we still don't really know if he's going to be a Pelican or not. It's up to the Kings now.

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Originally Posted by TxAggie713

BTW, Arn Tellem is the agent for Robin Lopez, Quincy Pondexter, Greivis Vasquez, Tyreke Evans, and Anthony Davis. I'd say he can pretty much dictate what happens here.

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Indeed. It behooves us to use greatest care here.

This also is...peculiar. Every. Single. Player.

Can someone please clear this up?

If we don't decline Lopez which I think is too big a risk, can we still have Evans sign the offer sheet?
Then once the Kings don't sign, can't we just trade both Vasquez and Lopez for what ever we can to get under the cap?

Or does our current cap situtation not allow us to even offer this to Evans?

Thank you

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

Can someone please clear this up?

If we don't decline Lopez which I think is too big a risk, can we still have Evans sign the offer sheet?
Then once the Kings don't sign, can't we just trade both Vasquez and Lopez for what ever we can to get under the cap?

Or does our current cap situtation not allow us to even offer this to Evans?

Thank you

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When Lopez's contract becomes fully guaranteed, the Pelicans will not have the cap space to sign Evans. If it does comes to that, we HAVE to have a trade partner before Evans sign that contract.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

When Lopez's contract becomes fully guaranteed, the Pelicans will not have the cap space to sign Evans. If it does comes to that, we HAVE to have a trade partner before Evans sign that contract.

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I have no doubt we can find a taker for Lopez at that contract even if it is fully guaranteed. Heck, the Sixers could use Lopez at least until Nerlens "Sam Bowie Greg Oden" Noel comes back around New Years.

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

When Lopez's contract becomes fully guaranteed, the Pelicans will not have the cap space to sign Evans. If it does comes to that, we HAVE to have a trade partner before Evans sign that contract.

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Why do we have to take the risk of losing Robin Lopez by declining the option on his contract? The NBA salary cap is a soft one. Tom Benson has got enough money to cover our butts if Tyreke Evans signs and we still have Lopez on the books; luxury tax, smuxury tax! This is not George Shinn's Hornets any longer. WE ARE PELICANS!!! Spend that money, Tom --- make it rain!

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Originally Posted by Nola Hornet

When Lopez's contract becomes fully guaranteed, the Pelicans will not have the cap space to sign Evans. If it does comes to that, we HAVE to have a trade partner before Evans sign that contract.

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Originally Posted by TxAggie713

I have no doubt we can find a taker for Lopez at that contract even if it is fully guaranteed. Heck, the Sixers could use Lopez at least until Nerlens "Sam Bowie Greg Oden" Noel comes back around New Years.

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So we are pretty much #$#%@^ then?

I wouldn't take the risk.
The Kings will sign him IMO.

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Originally Posted by Spec3333

Why do we have to take the risk of losing Robin Lopez by declining the option on his contract? The NBA salary cap is a soft one. Tom Benson has got enough money to cover our butts if Tyreke Evans signs and we still have Lopez on the books; luxury tax, smuxury tax! This is not George Shinn's Hornets any longer. WE ARE PELICANS!!! Spend that money, Tom!

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You have to be under the cap to sign free agents and be under or at the cap after the deal. You can go over the cap by doing trades, utilize exceptions, or signing your own free agents.

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Originally Posted by Spec3333

Why do we have to take the risk of losing Robin Lopez by declining the option on his contract? The NBA salary cap is a soft one. Tom Benson has got enough money to cover our butts if Tyreke Evans signs and we still have Lopez on the books; luxury tax, smuxury tax! This is not George Shinn's Hornets any longer. WE ARE PELICANS!!! Spend that money, Tom --- make it rain!

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That's what I was thinking but I don't think the rules allow us to even if Mr Benson would go into the lux.

Can anyone confirm this?

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