Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

Yep I really like the guy because of his attitude, but he's a very bad fit with us.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I'm just shocked that Gravy, who is hated here, is loved by Sac so much. He just said you add Gravy and this team becomes A LOT better.

Also a caller just said he loves Gravy because he does a lot of assist and is a good defender. Lol

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That this shows you they never watch GV play lol, they are in for a shock

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Originally Posted by Broadmoor74

Gravy is hated here? I honestly don't know anyone who hates that guy. I think people just think he's not the guy who's going to take us to where we want to go; or, he's a tradable piece who can net us someone else of need.

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I don't hate him as a person (great dude as for as I know) and I don't hate him as a player... but some things he does on the court I find myself cussing at my TV.

- You can't run a P/R and not even look at your roll man. So many times AD had a clear path for the 'oop and Gravy missed him
- Why do we constantly take shot desperation shots to beat the shot clock.
- Why does he turn the ball over so much?
- He's not the best defender.

Other than that... I don't have a problem with him!

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

I'm just shocked that Gravy, who is hated here, is loved by Sac so much. He just said you add Gravy and this team becomes A LOT better.

Also a caller just said he loves Gravy because he does a lot of assist and is a good defender. Lol

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Also saying gravy is hated here couldn't be the furthest from the truth. We just want the pg position upgraded. Not sure it constitutes hating the guy. Frustrating watching him move like he's in quicksand?? Sure...hate the guy?? Not at all

Man this radio show has been the best thing to happen with the Evans talks. This dude just yelled out a called who asked what the Kings do about their backup PG if Gravy is brought over. He started yelling, "I don't care, you start your best players! I don't care! Isaiah Thomas and Gravy are an awesome one two punch. I don't care about hurting people's feelings. We need to win games!"

Apparently, if we move Gravy in a S&T for Evans the Kings fans will be happy for the cap space and Vasquez.

I love General Greivis, but he doesn't have a spot here anymore.

Bring Tyreke, trade Gordon for someone that will surprise us all. Change Lopez and GV for another surprise.

Get it done Demps.

After looking over the kings roster and cap room. I'd be shocked of they matched this offer sheet. I really would.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Man this radio show has been the best thing to happen with the Evans talks. This dude just yelled out a called who asked what the Kings do about their backup PG if Gravy is brought over. He started yelling, "I don't care, you start your best players! I don't care! Isaiah Thomas and Gravy are an awesome one two punch. I don't care about hurting people's feelings. We need to win games!"

Apparently, if we move Gravy in a S&T for Evans the Kings fans will be happy for the cap space and Vasquez.

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I doubt giving up Vasquez would hold this thing up. I'd like to think dell would quickly sign his autograph on the S&T contract if it meant finalizing Evans being here. If not?? I'd like to talk to dell in a dark alley.

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

Also saying gravy is hated here couldn't be the furthest from the truth. We just want the pg position upgraded. Not sure it constitutes hating the guy. Frustrating watching him move like he's in quicksand?? Sure...hate the guy?? Not at all

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I think the perception is that he is not well liked as a player. I bet if you pull up some of the game threads you'd see people actively hating on the dude. Not everyone but certainly some.

Personally I like Gravy and think he has a ton of room to I prove.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I don't hate him as a person (great dude as for as I know) and I don't hate him as a player... but some things he does on the court I find myself cussing at my TV.

- You can't run a P/R and not even look at your roll man. So many times AD had a clear path for the 'oop and Gravy missed him
- Why do we constantly take shot desperation shots to beat the shot clock.
- Why does he turn the ball over so much?
- He's not the best defender.

Other than that... I don't have a problem with him!

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Only thing I'm not sure about is Gravy turning over the ball so much. I thought he has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio.

I honestly think that Vasquez is a great fit for the Kings and that Evans for Vasquez+cap space seems reasonable.

The issue is that no one knows what Sac really wants ... and from what we saw yesterday not even them. They need to get a plan straight on Evans or a S&T.
If only we did not need them to do it more than they do :s

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Originally Posted by kclaboy504

I doubt giving up Vasquez would hold this thing up. I'd like to think dell would quickly sign his autograph on the S&T contract if it meant finalizing Evans being here. If not?? I'd like to talk to dell in a dark alley.

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Oh I'm sure Sac is trying to get as much as they can for Evans. Probably trying to get multiple people from our roster.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

Only thing I'm not sure about is Gravy turning over the ball so much. I thought he has a 3:1 assist to turnover ratio.

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He did have a 3:1 ratio. It wasn't necessarily the NUMBER of TOs... it was WHEN he turned the ball over. Should have worded it differently.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

I don't hate him as a person (great dude as for as I know) and I don't hate him as a player... but some things he does on the court I find myself cussing at my TV.

- You can't run a P/R and not even look at your roll man. So many times AD had a clear path for the 'oop and Gravy missed him
- Why do we constantly take shot desperation shots to beat the shot clock.
- Why does he turn the ball over so much?
- He's not the best defender.

Other than that... I don't have a problem with him!

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-Why does he play "hero" ball in the 4th quarter

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

He did have a 3:1 ratio. It wasn't necessarily the NUMBER of TOs... it was WHEN he turned the ball over. Should have worded it differently.

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Ah yes. That makes more sense.

This is a really bad move. Since he signed the offer sheet, we can't do a sign and trade now.

and I think the Kings match.

Edit: never mind didn't see 'will sign' in tweet.

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Originally Posted by i am cow lolz

This is a really bad move. Since he signed the offer sheet, we can't do a sign and trade now.

and I think the Kings match.

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He didnt sign the offer sheet. Word is he's possibly given a verbal. He can't do anything official until the 10th.

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Originally Posted by Blackout

-Why does he play "hero" ball in the 4th quarter

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You Sir deserve a cigar. good call.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

He didnt sign the offer sheet. Word is he's possibly given a verbal. He can't do anything official until the 10th.

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My bad. Didn't see 'will sign' in Sportscenter tweet

Anyone remember when Greivis Vasquez took 25 shots and Eric Gordon took 6 in a game against the Wolves?

Cause I do :(

Kings fans have a poll up as to whether or not they should match a signed offer. It also includes a S & T option for Vasquez:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...t-Match-or-not

I can't read comments on ESPN anymore. The ignorant masses irk me. They think it is so funny that we are the Pelicans. Annoying. I really hope this team starts kicking some a&& soon.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Anyone remember when Greivis Vasquez took 25 shots and Eric Gordon took 6 in a game against the Wolves?

Cause I do :(

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Anyone remember when GV tried to take every clutch shot last year.

Chris Sheridan
@sheridanhoops

One of our top 10 #NBA free agents wants to play for the Pelicans. Really.

What a POS ****** bag. What's this dudes problem with our franchise?

and Tyreke is waiting to verbally commit because...?

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Originally Posted by donato

Kings fans have a poll up as to whether or not they should match a signed offer. It also includes a S & T option for Vasquez:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...t-Match-or-not

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29 = "Resign him"
0 = "Let him go"
3 = "S&T"

Sources close to Evans said he is waiting to see if the Kings will make an offer that's bigger than the Pelicans offer after ending their pursuit of Andre Iguodala.

That's likely all it would take for Evans to decline New Orleans' offer.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/07/03/554...#storylink=cpy

-I'd be really skittish if there is no sign and trade here. He's obviously willing to make the jump, but if he was holding out for more, and not equal, money, then there's no reason for the Kings to deal with him aside from matching. "I'll sign with you, but you've gotta do better than they do." "Nah, just sign their deal, we'll take paying you less over paying you more."

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

Chris Sheridan
@sheridanhoops

One of our top 10 #NBA free agents wants to play for the Pelicans. Really.

What a POS ****** bag. What's this dudes problem with our franchise?

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You got a Twitter? Cuss him out... on my behalf.

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

You got a Twitter? Cuss him out... on my behalf.

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Lol, ignorance on Sheridan's part. No talent in place here or anything.

Let everyone clown the name all they want. It won't matter if we win. Even better if we win a Championship and they have to say, "the New Orleans Pelicans are the national Champions." Let them eat on that crow. . .er. Pelican.

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Originally Posted by donato

Kings fans have a poll up as to whether or not they should match a signed offer. It also includes a S & T option for Vasquez:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/show...t-Match-or-not

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They are probably voting the "match it" since they don't want to do a S&T with some player named Grieves Vasquez.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMash

Sources close to Evans said he is waiting to see if the Kings will make an offer that's bigger than the Pelicans offer after ending their pursuit of Andre Iguodala.

That's likely all it would take for Evans to decline New Orleans' offer.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/07/03/554...#storylink=cpy

-I'd be really skittish if there is no sign and trade here. He's obviously willing to make the jump, but if he was holding out for more, and not equal, money, then there's no reason for the Kings to deal with him aside from matching. "I'll sign with you, but you've gotta do better than they do." "Nah, just sign their deal, we'll take paying you less over paying you more."

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It seems all of the reports of him wanting Sac to match our offer are from the sacramento media. Am i right?

That tweet made me mad


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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

You got a Twitter? Cuss him out... on my behalf.

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Same guy who wrote an article on amnestying Kobe.

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Originally Posted by MonsterMash

Sources close to Evans said he is waiting to see if the Kings will make an offer that's bigger than the Pelicans offer after ending their pursuit of Andre Iguodala.

That's likely all it would take for Evans to decline New Orleans' offer.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/07/03/554...#storylink=cpy

-I'd be really skittish if there is no sign and trade here. He's obviously willing to make the jump, but if he was holding out for more, and not equal, money, then there's no reason for the Kings to deal with him aside from matching. "I'll sign with you, but you've gotta do better than they do." "Nah, just sign their deal, we'll take paying you less over paying you more."

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Doesn't make any sense. The Kings have no obligations to sweeten the pot for Evans. Unless we pull our deal, if they want him they just need to match. Unless he signs a qualifying, but no one does that. Kings would have to be incompetent to offer a higher deal. THEY have the edge in retaining him no matter what. It's a deal not suited for them, but all the same.

I don't buy it.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Doesn't make any sense. The Kings have no obligations to sweeten the pot for Evans. Unless we pull our deal, if they want him they just need to match. Unless he signs a qualifying, but no one does that. Kings would have to be incompetent to offer a higher deal. THEY have the edge in retaining him no matter what. It's a deal not suited for them, but all the same.

I don't buy it.

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I ageree, the Kings offer would be matching the Pelicans offer.

More like "Cheridan" he he heeee...

But really though, cuss him out lol

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Originally Posted by wuggie

More like "Cheridan" he he heeee...

But really though, cuss him out lol

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I tweeted at him @Jrue_dat

RT @itsjonsantiago: One other interesting note re: Evans &; #SacKings: I'm told Coach Michael Malone wants very much to have Tyreke in Sacramento next season.

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Originally Posted by Jackaveli

RT @itsjonsantiago: One other interesting note re: Evans &; #SacKings: I'm told Coach Michael Malone wants very much to have Tyreke in Sacramento next season.

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Well it don't matter if he wants Evans. What matters is that if management is willing to pay him!

Well, I'm sure Monty Williams wants Willie Green so...

Jon Santiago*@itsjonsantiago*about 16 minutes agoTyreke Evans to commit to New Orleans Pelicans if*#SacKingsdon’t make move today

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Well, I'm sure Monty Williams wants Willie Green so...

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Too damn funny

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Jon Santiago*@itsjonsantiago*about 16 minutes agoTyreke Evans to commit to New Orleans Pelicans if*#SacKingsdon’t make move today

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This is bad. But I'll reserve judgement

Only move they can make make the same offer to him. Why should they pay a cent more than we are?

It's no different than when we first made the offer. Kings have the final say, unfortunately. Either they match or they don't. Only other thing at play is are they getting Vasquez or Lopez in the deal.

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Originally Posted by Topdawg26

Well it don't matter if he wants Evans. What matters is that if management is willing to pay him!

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If the coach says I don't want him or I can win without him, my guess is management would take that under advisement . Same as if he said I need him. Coach is just one small piece, no one said the coach was paying out his own pocket .

Tyreke's brothers' twitter accounts say a lot

If Sacramento was going to make a move, I feel like they would've already.

@blueprintceo

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Only move they can make make the same offer to him. Why should they pay a cent more than we are?

It's no different than when we first made the offer. Kings have the final say, unfortunately. Either they match or they don't. Only other thing at play is are they getting Vasquez or Lopez in the deal.

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If they did offer one cent more, that would show the continued ineptitude of that organization. That on top of the Iggy offer/retraction would surely look bad for the Kings.