Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

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07-03-2013, 10:51 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Honestly I woulndn't offer any more than GV, Lopez' contract is more valuable and the kings are going to lose Evans for nothing if they do not match.

Depends on what they would want. They may be happy with a nice TPE by sending them a low cost asset like Roberts.
07-03-2013, 10:51 AM
Mount Zion

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I would go as high as offering Lopez and Roberts in a S&T. Use Vasquez to trade for a SF or C. Use room exception to trade for the other piece.

What are the odds that the Pelicans can't replace Lopez with a player equal in ability to Lopez? I would think that's a pretty good chance. Vasquez, while good, is a luxury piece and I can accept him being moved, but I'm concerned that replacing Lopez with a satisfactory center will be more difficult.
07-03-2013, 10:52 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Actually they can't.

That would have to be done by July 5th. Can't trade Lopez until the 10th.

Pelicans can cut Lopez, but a team trading for Lopez can not. His deal will be guaranteed by then

His contract is still more valuable then GVs
07-03-2013, 10:52 AM
Smow-

Probasketballdraft had us thinking for a few mins that Gordon was traded to Phoenix too. Stuffs been going down.
07-03-2013, 10:53 AM
Coughka

Every time I fall in love with the Tyreke signing, some hazy news comes out about Sac maybe resigning him.

Every time I resign myself to a Tyreke-less fate, rumors abound that they won't match.

kings plz
07-03-2013, 10:55 AM
RaisingTheBar

^^^ for real
07-03-2013, 10:56 AM
The JNR

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Originally Posted by Coughka

Every time I fall in love with the Tyreke signing, some hazy news comes out about Sac maybe resigning him.

Every time I resign myself to a Tyreke-less fate, rumors abound that they won't match.

kings plz

ranadive pls
07-03-2013, 11:00 AM
lsutigers33

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

You gotta work a S&T with Kings. Too risky not to.

The second Tyreke agrees to that offer, you have to trade Lopez for space. Even if you find out 10 minutes later that the Kings will match. Gotta clear space to give him that offer sheet.

If you move Lopez or waive him, then Kings match Tyreke, you are left there holding the bag. Lose Lopez and get nothing in return.

Too risky. Hope Dell is on the phone right now, working out a S&T

Sign and trade who? Lopez in a separate deal to open up space or Lopez in the sac deal?
07-03-2013, 11:02 AM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by Zombiewoof

What are the odds that the Pelicans can't replace Lopez with a player equal in ability to Lopez? I would think that's a pretty good chance. Vasquez, while good, is a luxury piece and I can accept him being moved, but I'm concerned that replacing Lopez with a satisfactory center will be more difficult.

You are getting rid of Lopez regardless. No way to keep him. Only way is if you sacrifice Vasquez and either Jason Smith or Rivers.

I think Dell is more found of Rivers or Smith than Lopez, so that is why he is gone.
07-03-2013, 11:04 AM
MichaelMcNamara

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

Sign and trade who? Lopez in a separate deal to open up space or Lopez in the sac deal?

I said that is as high as I would go. If push came to shove and Kings would match unless I include Lopez.

I would prefer just giving them Roberts or even Vasquez, then move Lopez in a seperate deal, but if I had to, I would give them a slow footed big who can't rebound to get this deal done
07-03-2013, 11:08 AM
RaisingTheBar

IMO that is too much for a team that probably isn't going to match. We would essentially be giving them Lopez for free. They are bluffing us and I hope Demps isn't stupid enough to fall for it.
07-03-2013, 11:09 AM
lsutigers33

Tks

Ever think about doing live chats online at BSS?
07-03-2013, 11:12 AM
Smirk

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

IMO that is too much for a team that probably isn't going to match. We would essentially be giving them Lopez for free. They are bluffing us and I hope Demps isn't stupid enough to fall for it.

The alternative being that they aren't bluffing, and they match...and then we are in some trouble.
07-03-2013, 11:14 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by Smirk

The alternative being that they aren't bluffing, and they match...and then we are in some trouble.

We wouldnt be in trouble, we would have the cap space to sign someone else. This signing is not going to make or break us.
07-03-2013, 11:14 AM
Smow-

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

IMO that is too much for a team that probably isn't going to match. They are bluffing us and I hope Demps isn't stupid enough to fall for it.

You also gotta factor in that the longer Evans tiptoes around the more targets we mis out on. Gotta play it smart.
07-03-2013, 11:14 AM
ramsters60

is Yardbarker a site that you can put your trust in? or, have I missed this being reported already? I personally have my doubts, but they have reported that Evans signed the offer sheet we extended to him.... NBA Free Agency: Tyreke Evans signs offer sheet with Pelicans, Tiago Splitter 4-years-$45 million
07-03-2013, 11:15 AM
lsutigers33

Pulling the iggy deal doesn't help us get TE.

Just can't see sac wanting to make tat move with new direction.
07-03-2013, 11:18 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by ramsters60

is Yardbarker a site that you can put your trust in? or, have I missed this being reported already? I personally have my doubts, but they have reported that Evans signed the offer sheet we extended to him.... NBA Free Agency: Tyreke Evans signs offer sheet with Pelicans, Tiago Splitter 4-years-$45 million

i saw that too

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Tyreke Evans Welcome to day two of NBA free agency. Check out some of the moves being made. Kings point guard Tyreke Evans has reportedly agreed to a 4-year offer from the New Orleans Pelicans worth between $40 million and $44 million.

http://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articl...llion/13959997
07-03-2013, 11:19 AM
Eman5805

Until I see it said by Woj or Marc Stein, not gonna buy it. Never even heard of Yardbarker.
07-03-2013, 11:19 AM
AD23forMVP

I have to think we're discussing a S&T.
07-03-2013, 11:21 AM
PELICANSFAN

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

IMO that is too much for a team that probably isn't going to match. We would essentially be giving them Lopez for free. They are bluffing us and I hope Demps isn't stupid enough to fall for it.

Maybe, but if we are backed into a corner on July 5 with teams knowing we have to unload him, we are going to get pennies on the dollar or be stuck buying him out for $500,000.
07-03-2013, 11:21 AM
ramsters60

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Until I see it said by Woj or Marc Stein, not gonna buy it. Never even heard of Yardbarker.

no argument from me there, Eman.....just sharing what I saw....
07-03-2013, 11:24 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Maybe, but if we are backed into a corner on July 5 with teams knowing we have to unload him, we are going to get pennies on the dollar or be stuck buying him out for $500,000.

That's not a bad worse case scenario, buy him out and gain 4.5mil mil in cap space. But my preference would be to keep Lopez.
07-03-2013, 11:25 AM
Eman5805

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

I have to think we're discussing a S&T.

It seems the only logical solution. Benefit both sides. We get what we want and they get something for their trouble.
07-03-2013, 11:25 AM
Smirk

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

We wouldnt be in trouble, we would have the cap space to sign someone else. This signing is not going to make or break us.

There won't be any targets left worth anything on the 13th. We'll have to look for trades.
07-03-2013, 11:31 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by Smirk

There won't be any targets left worth anything on the 13th. We'll have to look for trades.

O-K then we are doomed. I mean really.
07-03-2013, 11:32 AM
Smirk

I don't think we are doomed. But it is certainly not great if they match.
07-03-2013, 11:34 AM
RaisingTheBar

I think Demps is smart enough to plan ahead, if not fire him.
07-03-2013, 11:42 AM
The JNR

Just to clarify, if Reke actually signs the offer, a S&T would be impossible, right? The S&T has to be done first?
07-03-2013, 11:44 AM
Spaniard

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Originally Posted by The JNR

Just to clarify, if Reke actually signs the offer, a S&T would be impossible, right? The S&T has to be done first?

If he were to sign, then either the Kings match or not. If they match, he can't be traded back to us(at least for a year).

But he can't truly sign a thing until July 10th. All he can do right now is agree to sign, and we'll negotiate with the Kings until that 10th deadline when we'll ultimately have to deal Lopez and get him signed up.

PS- for those that don't know, a sign and trade is a literal type of contract. If we agree to a sign and trade, Tyreke would sign a contract that is named a "sign and trade contract" as oppossed to a normal contract of an offer sheet.
07-03-2013, 11:45 AM
Vinny6420

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Originally Posted by The JNR

Just to clarify, if Reke actually signs the offer, a S&T would be impossible, right? The S&T has to be done first?

Yessir
07-03-2013, 11:49 AM
lsutigers33

Does this thread hit 100 before we find out??
07-03-2013, 11:50 AM
Spaniard

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

Does this thread hit 100 before we find out??

god I hope not
07-03-2013, 11:54 AM
RaisingTheBar

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Originally Posted by lsutigers33

Does this thread hit 100 before we find out??

Most definitely.
07-03-2013, 11:59 AM
Eman5805

I'm gonna bank that when we get to page....83 a definitive move will take place. But we DEFINITELY will get to page 100 well before July 10th.
07-03-2013, 12:16 PM
P Raff

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

I'm gonna bank that when we get to page....83 a definitive move will take place. But we DEFINITELY will get to page 100 well before July 10th.

Let's break a record. What's the highest page count out there?

Could this be the biggest free agent we've ever (potentially) signed? Peja was big, but Reke could be better.
07-03-2013, 12:18 PM
AD23forMVP

85 pages
07-03-2013, 12:19 PM
Purple Haze

Page 88!
07-03-2013, 12:20 PM
RealPelicans Fan

96 pages
07-03-2013, 12:26 PM
IamQuailman

I'm at 92 on tapatalk lol
07-03-2013, 12:32 PM
jhow0036

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 2m
It is possible Tyreke Evans never signs the proposed $44M offer sheet with Pelicans, sources tell Y! Sports. Still a fluid scenario
07-03-2013, 12:32 PM
GeauxSaints53

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

I'm gonna bank that when we get to page....83 a definitive move will take place. But we DEFINITELY will get to page 100 well before July 10th.

At this rate (about 75 pages over 2.5 days of FA), with 6.5 days left, we're looking at 300 pages on July 10. :help:
07-03-2013, 12:33 PM
Purple Haze

S&T it is
07-03-2013, 12:33 PM
saintsinNO

Woj is saying now it's possible he never signs at all and it's very fluid per his twitter.
07-03-2013, 12:34 PM
GeauxSaints53

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Originally Posted by Purple Haze

S&T it is

Yeah I don't see it any other way unless the Kings want too much and end up fine with giving Evans that contract.
07-03-2013, 12:34 PM
AD23forMVP

That doesn't bother me one bit, if Dell is looking to dump Lopez I'm sure he has something on the table.
07-03-2013, 12:34 PM
i am cow lolz

Time to move on.
07-03-2013, 12:35 PM
Spaniard

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Originally Posted by jhow0036

Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 2m
It is possible Tyreke Evans never signs the proposed $44M offer sheet with Pelicans, sources tell Y! Sports. Still a fluid scenario

What does that even mean? Talk about a report with no substance.
07-03-2013, 12:35 PM
greewe

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Originally Posted by Spaniard

What does that even mean? Talk about a report with no substance.

I think that means we either have an S&T or will lose him completely to Sacramento.
07-03-2013, 12:36 PM
Purple Haze

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Originally Posted by i am cow lolz

Time to move on.

No, it just won't be as easy as him signing our offer.

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