Free Agency Thread

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

Does anyone know of a reason we or another team like Phoenix would be waiting to make a trade. Say, if we have a deal in place for Bledsoe, is there some reason they would need to wait to announce it. Like cap ramifications or waiting to be able to trade certain players or something? Something has to be happening. Swaggy could not have been the only target this off season.

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Today's the first day we can trade our non guaranteed contracts.

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

Does anyone know of a reason we or another team like Phoenix would be waiting to make a trade. Say, if we have a deal in place for Bledsoe, is there some reason they would need to wait to announce it. Like cap ramifications or waiting to be able to trade certain players or something? Something has to be happening. Swaggy could not have been the only target this off season.

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Just spitballing here, but Bledsoe just got married last Friday. Could they be waiting until he gets back from his honeymoon before announcing they've traded him?

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Originally Posted by AusPel

He looks amazing

If he nets us a great starter so be it, we need to cash our assets in now while we have this core.

I love Diallo and I think he is AD 2.0. But everyone is expendable at the right price

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A D 2.0 ?????? I love the optimism but you can't be serious.

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Originally Posted by redrum

A D 2.0 ?????? I love the optimism but you can't be serious.

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OK but have you seen the similarites?

The soft touch around the rim

The jumper

The length and athleticism

The smooth moveness

They share many facets

Pursuing Nick Young at least showed we're trying to upgrade and add scoring in the backcourt. That's a sign we should have acquired a big scorer by the end of the offseason. I can't see our only acquisitions being Darius Miller, Frank Jackson, and Jrue re-signing, while we have Cousins and AD on our roster. We managed to get Cousins in a trade so something has to be in the works to keep adding big talent. No way we can sit on our hands watching one of the biggest offseasons go by while having two top 5-10 players on our roster

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Originally Posted by P_B_&_G

Does anyone know of a reason we or another team like Phoenix would be waiting to make a trade. Say, if we have a deal in place for Bledsoe, is there some reason they would need to wait to announce it. Like cap ramifications or waiting to be able to trade certain players or something? Something has to be happening. Swaggy could not have been the only target this off season.

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Looking at our past few offseasons we didn't make major moves of note until July 9-21. In 2014, we gave up a first rounder to Houston for Asik on 7/15. We re-signed Asik, Ajinca, Cunningham, and AD on the 9th in 2015. And last year we signed Hill and Moore on 7/21. That's probably looking too deep into things, but there's still time during the rest of this month for the FO to make something happen

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Originally Posted by HoustonPelicans

Idk how to link tweets and don't know if it's against the rules to link tweets with profanity. But MM is spazzing on Twitter at people coming at him for leaking bogus news. I like MM but he is starting to lose all credibility.

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Lol, I went to go check that out. With all the profanity he was using insulting people questioning his sources probably wouldn't be allowed on this board. I don't follow the guy personally, or BSS or any of the "bloggers" they have but reading that childish rant, was very unprofessional. Just solidified my decision not to follow him or BSS.

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Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA

Pursuing Nick Young at least showed we're trying to upgrade and add scoring in the backcourt. That's a sign we should have acquired a big scorer by the end of the offseason. I can't see our only acquisitions being Darius Miller, Frank Jackson, and Jrue re-signing, while we have Cousins and AD on our roster. We managed to get Cousins in a trade so something has to be in the works to keep adding big talent. No way we can sit on our hands watching one of the biggest offseasons go by while having two top 5-10 players on our roster

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I do not want to be the first team in NBA history to have two top 5-10 players on the team, and then screw it up...We have to do something.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

I do not want to be the first team in NBA history to have two top 5-10 players on the team, and then screw it up...We have to do something.

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As long as it's done, will it matter when after the season starts?

It is speculation at this point, but I'm guessing Demetrius Jackson is involved in some form of trade talks. No reason for him not to play.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 9, 2017

Demetrius Jackson now in. So that no PG look was just trying something.

— Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) July 9, 2017

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

As long as it's done, will it matter when after the season starts?

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If we don't make the playoffs, then it's basically "screwing up."

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Originally Posted by lawless522

Just spitballing here, but Bledsoe just got married last Friday. Could they be waiting until he gets back from his honeymoon before announcing they've traded him?

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There's the honeymoon, pass a physical, plus some of of our non guarantee contracts couldn't be traded till today. I still think it'll be the end of summer league before moves are made. Definately don't want a move just to make one and most of the free agents I could careless about. I'm still hoping for a trade with the magic or worst case trade for D Wade.

Crawford has now signed with the Timberwolves.
Look at what a solid Head Coach and front office brings to the table.
This team from Jimmy Butler on down is a huge player now in the West.

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Originally Posted by WhyHornetsWhy

If we don't make the playoffs, then it's basically "screwing up."

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I don't understand. If we make the trade in September instead of July...and we miss the playoffs, will you say it's because we made the trade two months late?

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Originally Posted by AusPel

I feel like Lin is a more likely target

Russell and LeVert are the back court of the future plus they need back into the draft

A 1st to Brooklyn for Lin seems likely to me

And I would love Lin on the team, I think he's bloody great

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Possibly, but at this point there are several guys that would upgrade the team. I would be happy with either but I prefer Bledsoe.

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Originally Posted by 23speedkillz

Today's the first day we can trade our non guaranteed contracts.

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Thought I read that somewhere, thanks.

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Originally Posted by lawless522

Just spitballing here, but Bledsoe just got married last Friday. Could they be waiting until he gets back from his honeymoon before announcing they've traded him?

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I think this is a possibility. Another possibility are guys we aren't even thinking about. Dell is good at that. Did anyone see the Cousins trade coming?

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Originally Posted by SonOfNOLA

Pursuing Nick Young at least showed we're trying to upgrade and add scoring in the backcourt. That's a sign we should have acquired a big scorer by the end of the offseason. I can't see our only acquisitions being Darius Miller, Frank Jackson, and Jrue re-signing, while we have Cousins and AD on our roster. We managed to get Cousins in a trade so something has to be in the works to keep adding big talent. No way we can sit on our hands watching one of the biggest offseasons go by while having two top 5-10 players on our roster

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I don't have proof but there is no way Dell doesn't have several backup contingencies prepared. As far as we know right now Young looked like our main target but if there are trade talks behind the scenes, which Dell likes to keep things, Young may only have been a piece to the puzzle and not the whole thing. We signed 3 guys last year. I expect something similar this year. At least 2 or 3 new guys not including Miller and the rookie.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

As long as it's done, will it matter when after the season starts?

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This, hopefully something gets done before camp starts to at least get everyone acclimated. But as long as something happens by the start of the season that improves the team I can live with it.

Would anyone want Reke back? He can likely be had on the cheap and it appeared that Gentry covets at least one guy on the team with that style, see Stevenson. Can we sign him if we wanted to since we traded him?

Evans is now with Memphis

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

Crawford has now signed with the Timberwolves.
Look at what a solid Head Coach and front office brings to the table.
This team from Jimmy Butler on down is a huge player now in the West.

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Thank God For Minny. Crawford is Garbage. He is older than his 3pt % . He shot 35% from 3 & is scared of the word defense.

Guys as fans everywhere of all sports wants their team to win.
People push the envelope of playoffs playoffs really believing the hype from media and team mgmt.
I hope we realistically improve to .500 this coming season.
40 wins is what this roster is capable of as is.
Taking into account what we have for a Head Coach and GM. Do I wish Darren Erman would get his chance absolutely but for now it's Alvin Gentry. I know I am considered a TROLL because I don't drink the Kool Aid as most on this forum.
I support this ball club as a season ticket holder. I am a fan of the game also. I just don't believe the Hype that most on this forum believe. That don't mean I am against the Pelicans it's just I don't see this massive beast mode ball club as others on here do.
It still don't discount my loyalty to the franchise. I enjoy the games at the Blender and I travel to some road games as well.

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Originally Posted by Buckwheat

Guys as fans everywhere of all sports wants their team to win.
People push the envelope of playoffs playoffs really believing the hype from media and team mgmt.
I hope we realistically improve to .500 this coming season.
40 wins is what this roster is capable of as is.
Taking into account what we have for a Head Coach and GM. Do I wish Darren Erman would get his chance absolutely but for now it's Alvin Gentry. I know I am considered a TROLL because I don't drink the Kool Aid as most on this forum.
I support this ball club as a season ticket holder. I am a fan of the game also. I just don't believe the Hype that most on this forum believe. That don't mean I am against the Pelicans it's just I don't see this massive beast mode ball club as others on here do.
It still don't discount my loyalty to the franchise. I enjoy the games at the Blender and I travel to some road games as well.

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Negative! You are not considered a Troll because you don't drink the Kool aid. You are considered a troll because you constantly push the same negative outlook about just about everything dealing with the team. Lots of members are skeptical about the state of the franchise but to constantly push negativity down the throats of the members that rather just enjoy and appreciate what we do have and feel fortunate to have two top 20 players currently is not necessary. Some of us just enjoy the game and the process. And at the end of the day that's all it is, just a game and some entertainment. Constantly dwelling on the negative brings no excitement. We all know this team, coach, and GM has some flaws but at the same time any team with AD and boogie arguably the best pf and center has reason for excitement.

Sources: Bulls pulled qualifying offer on forward Joffrey Lauvergne, making him unrestricted free agent. Several teams showing interest.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 9, 2017

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Originally Posted by Tinman

Thank God For Minny. Crawford is Garbage. He is older than his 3pt % . He shot 35% from 3 & is scared of the word defense.

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Alright this was funny.

domino #1 for any Lin trade to New Orleans scenario has fallen

Wizards make it official, match Otto Porter Jr.’s offer sheet from the Nets https://t.co/NOg1EbfaXx

— Post Sports (@PostSports) July 9, 2017

edit: maybe not yet

Porter still has to take a physical for Wizards, so the official match won’t happen until early next week. But it’s happening.

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 9, 2017

the BKN money may still be tied up until the physical is done and dusted

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Originally Posted by rt0307

domino #1 for any Lin trade to New Orleans scenario has fallen

Wizards make it official, match Otto Porter Jr.’s offer sheet from the Nets https://t.co/NOg1EbfaXx

— Post Sports (@PostSports) July 9, 2017

edit: maybe not yet

Porter still has to take a physical for Wizards, so the official match won’t happen until early next week. But it’s happening.

— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) July 9, 2017

the BKN money may still be tied up until the physical is done and dusted

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We're you like the only one that paid any attention to Brooklyn's faux (make Washington pay) offer sheet. I pretty sure this is what most on this forum knew was going to happen. Doesn't change anything.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Why do people who have a pessimistic outlook always insist they're the ones who see reality and the rest are in denial?

Jesus, get over yourself. You're talking about sports. It's escapism. None of this is reality.

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I'll offer this, because some of us have rooted for terrible teams for years on end and know exactly what it looks like. Year after year fans attempt to convince themselves this season will be better and like clockwork it turns out to be bad.

Now you can hope and pray and wish all you want. Don't get all mad because others dont put much of a premium on hoping.

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Originally Posted by Tinman

We're you like the only one that paid any attention to Brooklyn's faux (make Washington pay) offer sheet. I pretty sure this is what most on this forum knew was going to happen. Doesn't change anything.

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we all knew this was going to happen

just saying that the domino has or is in the process of falling

for those asking about a possible Lin trade

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Originally Posted by rt0307

we all knew this was going to happen

just saying that the domino has or is in the process of falling

for those asking about a possible Lin trade

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So, when you say the domino is falling on a Lin trade. What exactly is your position? Are you saying this is a good move for the Pels chances or a bad move?

Toronto has traded DeMarre Carroll, a future first-round and second-round pick to Brooklyn for Justin Hamilton, league sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 9, 2017

For Toronto, this was a salary dump of the $30M owed Carroll across next two seasons. Both picks to Nets are 2018. https://t.co/AcK98wnLzp

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 9, 2017

Carroll can become Nets starting small forward in short-term. Kenny Atkinson coached him in Atlanta, loves getting chance to do it again.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 9, 2017

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Originally Posted by Tinman

So, when you say the domino is falling on a Lin trade. What exactly is your position? Are you saying this is a good move for the Pels chances or a bad move?

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I'm neutral... just trying to report actual news

just saying that if the rumors of the Pels being interested in Lin are true... the Nets needed to free up the money from the Porter offer sheet... which happened or is about to officially happen

then BKN is going to throw an offer at KCP

should he sign there... that should make Lin expendable and the Pelicans can make the play

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Originally Posted by SilkySlim

I'll offer this, because some of us have rooted for terrible teams for years on end and know exactly what it looks like. Year after year fans attempt to convince themselves this season will be better and like clockwork it turns out to be bad.

Now you can hope and pray and wish all you want. Don't get all mad because others dont put much of a premium on hoping.

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Yeah. You're still doing it.

Who said anything about hope? What, like I don't know we've got issues from the top down? I'm not talking about the team's future outlook. I'm talking about what you're focusing on and how I always see people with a negative opinion of things who insist they're the only ones who can accept the truth. And the fact that you actively hold your view over others like it's superior.

You don't need to hope. To each their own.

So on the flip side of to each their own, do you need to tell other people that their actions are a waste or will turn out badly? If it was an act of altruism, that'd be one thing. In my experience, it's more for the negative type's own benefit in some nihilistic way.

Why are we so worried about getting Lin? He is not going to make or break the team. Unless we are offloading Asik then it's not even worth the worrying.


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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Yeah. You're still doing it.

Who said anything about hope? What, like I don't know we've got issues from the top down? I'm not talking about the team's future outlook. I'm talking about what you're focusing on and how I always see people with a negative opinion of things who insist they're the only ones who can accept the truth. And the fact that you actively hold your view over others like it's superior.

You don't need to hope. To each their own.

So on the flip side of to each their own, do you need to tell other people that their actions are a waste or will turn out badly? If it was an act of altruism, that'd be one thing. In my experience, it's more for the negative type's own benefit in some nihilistic way.

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Originally Posted by rt0307

I'm neutral... just trying to report actual news

just saying that if the rumors of the Pels being interested in Lin are true... the Nets needed to free up the money from the Porter offer sheet... which happened or is about to officially happen

then BKN is going to throw an offer at KCP

should he sign there... that should make Lin expendable and the Pelicans can make the play

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On top of going after KCP, Nets need a Center now after trading Justin Hamilton. Mosgov is the only one on the roster. Their other bigs are strictly PF's. That could set up for a Asik-Lin swap with our first rounder included

Nobody is trading for Asik. Let it go.

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Originally Posted by TPDG22

Nobody is trading for Asik. Let it go.

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Nobody was trading for Rashard Lewis either...or Emeka Okafor for that matter.

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Originally Posted by TPDG22

Nobody is trading for Asik. Let it go.

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It's not likely. Doesn't mean it won't happen. I mean, not like teams trade for players then buy them out. I mean, Jamal Crawford was due a not insignificant sum of feta wasn't he? How much more did the Hawks eat than a team would eat if they bought out Asik right now?

No matter how bad you guys want to move on from him it boils down to another team wanting to take him. Asik has 0 trade value.

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Originally Posted by Harvey

Are you kidding? I'm a New Orleans native. There is nothing about the Charlotte Hornets I give a darn about.

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Oh man oh man. I've missed you.

But how did you know we posted about you? Hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Mr. West

Wow. Congrats on the huge life change. Holy hell. Stick around. We'd love to see you more often if you can find the time.



Put "remember me" into the browser and stick around, captain :hihi:

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It's definitely an interesting life. Lol

And I am back saved in here until my next phone upgrade.

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Originally Posted by MistaWhoDat

MM has been on Twitter guaranting a trade will happen by today now someone called him out on it and he's now saying by training camp . If nothing happens today I hope this clears up the MM has insider info phenomenon but If something does happen today then he deserves credit . We'll see


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I really dislike MM. I would probably choose Buckwheat over him, to be honest. But even if the trade happens he could still have inside info. Like someone said earlier, he could be hearing that we are trying insanely hard to get someone and then it just doesn't work out.....so the trade doesn't happen but he still had inside info.

Asik lost a lot of weight. Maybe he worked on his stroke. Got his 3pt % into the 40s and can play SF.

Cost of dumping Carroll was lottery protected first and late second rounder. But he still can play. And is owed 30 millions.
Asik is owed 25 nad cannot play recently.
I think that to dump him you will need top-10;protected first and second rounder.
Which means attaching him to Lin you will need probably two firsts. And Bledsoe? Jeez...
I'd rather stretch him and use AA and QPon in a trade

btw. is Asik fit again ? did not hear anything after his bacterial infection

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Originally Posted by Austrian_Pelican

btw. is Asik fit again ? did not hear anything after his bacterial infection

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I haven't seen or heard any news on him since march or so. Someone said they had caught sight of him at a restaurant with a few ladies still looking very skinny. I imagine he isn't in good shape, otherwise the Pels would be doing their best to pump out the positive spin on him in hope of trying to move him. I think a buyout is the best option, that way we keep our pick (which its going to cost at least a first and second) and just wear the money side of things - but he needs to agree obviously.

All this trade talk for bledsoe... is this simply this board making this up as a 'I wish this will happen' or is there some substance to it?

When healthy that dude is a superb player and we'd end up with 4 quality starters.

What about getting Wes Mathews and dare I say Harrison Barnes from the Mavs. I think that is exactly what this team needs. Barnes as a 3rd/4th option with Jrue. Barnes is younger then Gordon Hayward and much cheaper while having just as good of a season if not better with absolutely no help. Barnes did exactly what many hear doubted and consistently created his own shot shooting a very good FG%. He was literaly the only players teams were worried about hurting his 3pt% but here that would. It be an issue. Having 2 bigs like AD and Boogie would be an even better fit for Barnes then GS imo. While Mathews is the perfect 3 and D SG for this team to start with Crawford off the bench. I don't know if the Mavs want to be that bad for Dirks last 2 years though. Never know sometimes teams go into sell mode so it's hard to predict how available they even are. Acquiring those 2 guys would give us a squad I would feel very good about

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Hmmmmm......

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Hmmmmm......

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Hmmmmm......

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He is in Fresno now

Not that I don't appreciate knowing what the league is doing, but it is more or less reminding Pelican fans of what is not happening for the Pelicans. It is becoming evident the team invested money in fringe players who have little or no value on trade day. I am at a point where you put the young guys out there with the big three and see what you have. Asik has no business on this team, and I am not a fan of some of the other veterans either. I go with the youth.

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Originally Posted by MSU-Sousaphone

I really dislike MM. I would probably choose Buckwheat over him, to be honest. But even if the trade happens he could still have inside info. Like someone said earlier, he could be hearing that we are trying insanely hard to get someone and then it just doesn't work out.....so the trade doesn't happen but he still had inside info.

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Honestly I don't question the fact that he has a good source with legitimacy regarding the knowledge of the thniking of the FO. But every single time he comes with a new (and false) inside info regarding a move, I question more and more the quality of the info. I suspect that the front office use MM to throw rumors around to test fan reactions and also to create smokescreen.

Not related but I have to confess, I'm impress by Sean Marks. He went into a terrible situation and turn it around with patience.

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I haven't seen or heard any news on him since march or so. Someone said they had caught sight of him at a restaurant with a few ladies still looking very skinny. I imagine he isn't in good shape, otherwise the Pels would be doing their best to pump out the positive spin on him in hope of trying to move him. I think a buyout is the best option, that way we keep our pick (which its going to cost at least a first and second) and just wear the money side of things - but he needs to agree obviously.

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As of July 3rd, my ticket agent told me that Asik was still NOT medically cleared to play!