Pelicans finalizing trade for Asik

My gut is that it will be Hopson and Babbitt

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I know the original plan was to get Hopson. He and Babbitt would be enough.

I don't know what it will be, but I am sure we will find out soon.

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I guess we'll see, wanted to keep Babbitt but I'll take Casspi. Think he's a nice fit

Like the left hand finishes in traffic.

I am officially calling it an upgrade :)

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

I guess we'll see, wanted to keep Babbitt but I'll take Casspi. Think he's a nice fit

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I think the original plan was in place and this Ariza thing came along. Dell said to help do it, he wanted Casspi and is essentially trading Babbitt for Casspi in this scenario. Which fits better if they need a backup 3

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

My gut is that it will be Hopson and Babbitt

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I'm going with B. Bob's S&T..timing seems to fit. .

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

My gut is that it will be Hopson and Babbitt

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I'm going with B. Bob's S&T..timing seems to fit. .

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Originally Posted by SaintPelican225

I'm going with B. Bob's S&T..timing seems to fit. .

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That would be my 2nd guess.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Per Mason we still have to send out 2.3mil additional in salary for the trade to work (besides Ely+Gee).

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Rivers makes about 2.3 doesn't he?

Just got Hopson. Looks like him and Babbitt most likely

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

Just got Hopson. Looks like him and Babbitt most likely

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There are conflicting reports on Hopson's salary. I am hoping it is just him. But we will know soon enough. We still haven't heard any word that Babbitt will definitely be included. Have been told Hopson this whole time.

BTW - I am sorry about the Frodo's kid clue. I thought his name was Hobson. Hobbit Son - Hobson.

Sorry, I am terrible at clues

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

There are conflicting reports on Hopson's salary. I am hoping it is just him. But we will know soon enough. We still haven't heard any word that Babbitt will definitely be included. Have been told Hopson this whole time.

BTW - I am sorry about the Frodo's kid clue. I thought his name was Hobson. Hobbit Son - Hobson.

Sorry, I am terrible at clues

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Yay, not Jimmer!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

There are conflicting reports on Hopson's salary. I am hoping it is just him. But we will know soon enough. We still haven't heard any word that Babbitt will definitely be included. Have been told Hopson this whole time.

BTW - I am sorry about the Frodo's kid clue. I thought his name was Hobson. Hobbit Son - Hobson.

Sorry, I am terrible at clues

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LOL - hope we can keep Babbitt but not a huge deal either way.

shamsports has hopson at 1.45MM

So we are not keeping Hobson?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

There are conflicting reports on Hopson's salary. I am hoping it is just him. But we will know soon enough. We still haven't heard any word that Babbitt will definitely be included. Have been told Hopson this whole time.

BTW - I am sorry about the Frodo's kid clue. I thought his name was Hobson. Hobbit Son - Hobson.

Sorry, I am terrible at clues

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Just disappointed it wasn't 9 finger

so either Babbitt or ajinca have to go
who ya got?

I say keep Babbitt in case ryno is slow to come back

Apparently we don't have to trade Babbitt, another point for Dell!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

There are conflicting reports on Hopson's salary. I am hoping it is just him. But we will know soon enough. We still haven't heard any word that Babbitt will definitely be included. Have been told Hopson this whole time.

BTW - I am sorry about the Frodo's kid clue. I thought his name was Hobson. Hobbit Son - Hobson.

Sorry, I am terrible at clues

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You gotta admit. The Gerald green correlation was pretty legit


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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

Apparently we don't have to trade Babbitt, another point for Dell!

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I want to see the counter arguments for this offseason now. Lost Morrow, Roberts, and Aminu. Gained Asik, Casspi, Smith, Young, and another SF is coming. Kept every single core piece and all the prospects with upside. This team is super deep, young, and still has room to make moves.

Dell worked magic this summer. Hats off.

So we kept Babbitt? B/c that's all I really care about now that I realized that we apparently can't even trade Rivers for a Gatorade cooler.

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Originally Posted by TBlaze

So we kept Babbitt? B/c that's all I really care about now that I realized that we apparently can't even trade Rivers for a Gatorade cooler.

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Looks that way. This team is super deep. 5 very good guards, 7 legit big men. Casspi and now just need to add another SF via the Room exception. Looking good.

So, does Dell get to grandstand about math and analytics at the Sloan Conference this year, or is he still not smart enough for that crowd?

Because it looks like he took their Godfather to the cleaners this offseason.

My guess is guys like Pelton will have no clue everything it took to pull this off, going back to last season. Months of work. Finding the nooks and crannies of the CBA. Props.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Looks that way. This team is super deep. 5 very good guards, 7 legit big men. Casspi and now just need to add another SF via the Room exception. Looking good.

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Great moves..now everyone can breath. So, let's speculate on who Dell brings in with the exception..

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Originally Posted by Nin10doe

So, does Dell get to grandstand about math and analytics at the Sloan Conference this year, or is he still not smart enough for that crowd?

Because it looks like he took their Godfather to the cleaners this offseason.

My guess is guys like Pelton will have no clue everything it took to pull this off, going back to last season. Months of work. Finding the nooks and crannies of the CBA. Props.

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I'm sure having Loomis around helps a bit too. That man made miracles happen with the Saints this offseason.

McNamara, I see Houston used Casspi mainly as a perimeter four last season. I've thought of him as a SF. Thoughts?

Awesome. I really like Babbitt coming in to play Ryno when he's out. I really think that guy can be just a solid 3pt shooting stretch 4. Play like 10 minutes a game or so.

I just really can't understand why people are all over Marion right now. I just think we need more offense, preferably shooting from the SF spot now w/ the paint safe and sound w/ AD/Asik.

I'd rather someone like Hamilton than Marion. But I can see the leadership aspect and "been there done that' playoff mentality of The Matrix.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Looks that way. This team is super deep. 5 very good guards, 7 legit big men. Casspi and now just need to add another SF via the Room exception. Looking good.

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A couple questions...

First, do you think Casspi will start or SF that we get. Second, who's inactive if everyone is healthy... Russ, Patric, or maybe Babbitt? I believe we'd have to make 2 of the 14 inactive, correct?

I think Russ, Babbitt, Ajinca/Young have to be interchangeable on that list.

Plus if we give another D-League guy a shot. You'd have to think that with our guard plethora they'll sit one and then one of the bigs.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I want to see the counter arguments for this offseason now. Lost Morrow, Roberts, and Aminu. Gained Asik, Casspi, Smith, Young, and another SF is coming. Kept every single core piece and all the prospects with upside. This team is super deep, young, and still has room to make moves.

Dell worked magic this summer. Hats off.

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Only if I could have shipped out Rivers and kept Morrow. [We will never know what Morrow wanted.] Either way, pending the SF we sign via the Room MLE, this looks like a grade A off season.

Is Jason Smith gone, too? If so, we are losing our top three veteran leaders: Morrow, Roberts, and J. Smith.

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Originally Posted by TBlaze

I just really can't understand why people are all over Marion right now. I just think we need more offense, preferably shooting from the SF spot now w/ the paint safe and sound w/ AD/Asik.

I'd rather someone like Hamilton than Marion.

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Marion shot better from the 3 (35.8%) than Hamilton (35.4%) and Casspi (34.7%). He's also a MUCH better defender.

According to a report we aren't bringing Smith back.

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Originally Posted by RekeHavoc

A couple questions...

First, do you think Casspi will start or SF that we get. Second, who's inactive if everyone is healthy... Russ, Patric, or maybe Babbitt? I believe we'd have to make 2 of the 14 inactive, correct?

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We can have 13 active+2 inactive.

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Originally Posted by greewe

We can have 13 active+2 inactive.

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Yeah wasn't sure if it was 12 or 13.

Check out where Marions 3s are coming from too.
We have guys who can hit threes from the wings. We need corner threes.
http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=1890

Can't think of Marion as a 3pt shooter, dude made less than 1 per game last season.

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Originally Posted by TBlaze

I think Russ, Babbitt, Ajinca/Young have to be interchangeable on that list.

Plus if we give another D-League guy a shot. You'd have to think that with our guard plethora they'll sit one and then one of the bigs.

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Frenchy should have a spot IMO. Withey woud be the inactive big

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Can't think of Marion as a 3pt shooter, dude made less than 1 per game last season.

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Good catch. Thanks.

I just want to see the press conference where Mr. Demps says those beautiful words "Yesterday, we acquired Center Omer Asik from the Houston Rockets."

That'll make me happy.

any idea what the first round protection is on the pick?

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Can't think of Marion as a 3pt shooter, dude made less than 1 per game last season.

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I don't think we need a deadly 3 point shooter there that will launch them at every chance, but rather a guy that can hit it if left open and keep the floor spread for our top scorers. Marion fits that role perfectly and brings great defense and leadership as well.


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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

I don't think we need a deadly 3 point shooter there that will launch them at every chance, but rather a guy that can hit it if left open and keep the floor spread for our top scorers. Marion fits that role perfectly and brings great defense and leadership as well.


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I agree I like Marion for this team.

now if we had lebron, we'd be a title contender.

i am predicting a ryno for a legit SF trade. Casspi and Asik are his replacements. I still think there's a major Ryno/EG trade in the books before mid season.

So theoretically next offseason we could let Asik walk and his 8.5 mill, use that money for a legit SF AND offer deandre Jordan max contract with EG gone? If so sign me up now.

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Originally Posted by MMEmbreno

So theoretically next offseason we could let Asik walk and his 8.5 mill, use that money for a legit SF AND offer deandre Jordan max contract with EG gone? If so sign me up now.

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Why max Deandre Jordan. Guy is a black hole on offense. Great rebounder. Overrated defender. Low basketball IQ. He's a product of CP3 and Doc Rivers. Take him off that team and then what? I'd take Asik over him without blinking.

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Originally Posted by pelafanatic

I don't think we need a deadly 3 point shooter there that will launch them at every chance, but rather a guy that can hit it if left open and keep the floor spread for our top scorers. Marion fits that role perfectly and brings great defense and leadership as well.


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Agree with this. With Jrue, Gordon, Evans, Anderson, and Davis, we don't need a guy who shoots a ton. We need a guy who can space the floor and be a threat to knock down a 3. Throw in his experience, defense, and rebounding and this team would go from one of the worst to one of the best in just 1 year.

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Originally Posted by MMEmbreno

So theoretically next offseason we could let Asik walk and his 8.5 mill, use that money for a legit SF AND offer deandre Jordan max contract with EG gone? If so sign me up now.

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No, everyone seems to forget that we're going to have to offer AD a max contract under the Derrick Rose rule as soon as EG is gone

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Originally Posted by Writhe

No, everyone seems to forget that we're going to have to offer AD a max contract under the Derrick Rose rule as soon as EG is gone

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First. AD hasn't qualified for the DR max yet. We don't know that he will, odds are he actually won't. But the other point is AD's contract doesn't kick in until the 2016-2017 season. Next offseason he will count for right at 7M against the cap.

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Originally Posted by Mythrol

First. AD hasn't qualified for the DR max yet. We don't know that he will, odds are he actually won't. But the other point is AD's contract doesn't kick in until the 2016-2017 season. Next offseason he will count for right at 7M against the cap.

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I'm actually wondering if AD being named an All star versus being voted one changes. If it doesn't matter i'd say the odds are for him getting it.

Dealer Demps, what a guy. The way he's got it going we'll be able to underplay for players soon the way contenders do.

Good job Demps!