Official Fire Monty Thread

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

So why did he agree to extend his contract then?

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Wouldn't be the first time a coach gets canned a year after getting an extension. Not uncommon at all.

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Originally Posted by AUSSIE_PELICAN

So why did he agree to extend his contract then?

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Because he got caught up in the hype of Monty being the next great young coach in this league. We all got caught up in it which is the only reason I can figure out how their are still people on this forum that continue to support and defend his coaching. It's difficult because Monty is a good man and believe me I would love to see him have success here but I have been around this game long enough to know he is in way over his head. To all the people that defend Monty's coaching please give some substance to your position in the form reasoning? Where do you see his stong suits , is it managing a game, fundamentals, strategy, substitutions? Personally I am sick of this team sucking and would be happy seeing us at least heading in the right direction but it seems like unless Benson is ready to clean house and go find him a good proven GM and let him hire a proven quality NBA coach we will continue in this mess we have been subjected to for the last 4 or 5 years now.

Guys it isn’t going to happen anytime soon. There are many roads that lead to success, and you can argue till the cows come home about which one is shorted, or smoother or even the one with the prettier scenic view, but doesn't change the fact that you are not driving the car. Thankfully we have a solid front office that doesn't sway in the breeze.

Bump

How did this make it to the 3rd page?

lol @ page 43.

Rev up this train.

Fired Monty hire John Calipari

We have a team full of dumb players coached by a dumber coach and worse part it will be the same team next year Dell would never fire his friend Monty and just put the bad coaching on injuries.

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Originally Posted by 504ByrdGang

We have a team full of dumb players coached by a dumber coach and worse part it will be the same team next year Dell would never fire his friend Monty and just put the bad coaching on injuries.

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There maybe 5 players with high basketball IQ's on this team, 2 are injuried, 2 on the bench & AD. We need to keep AD happy b4 another CP3 starts. So go hire John Calipari and us his World Wide West connections and keep AD happy.

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I think we'll keep Monty and I don't think it will be much better next year either. Of course, I've said this many, many times before. We're just delaying the inevitable firing.

This horse has been beaten to a bloody pulp... but its too entertaining. Monty ain't going anywhere... not after THIS season anyway. The team he's playing with have about as much basketball brain matter as this banana/peanut butter smoothie I'm drinking, and when your highest/"best" player can't make a clutch free throw... you have threads like this. Never mind the royal screw job we got from the refs.

The scripture of my 2k my career reads 4/2/14
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Originally Posted by dcoop

The scripture of my 2k my career reads 4/2/14
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A glimpse into the future!

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Originally Posted by dcoop

The scripture of my 2k my career reads 4/2/14
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Your profile pic describes how i would feel

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Originally Posted by dcoop

The scripture of my 2k my career reads 4/2/14
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i really hope this happens

I'm officially on board.

I don't know Schmidt, but if Schmidt happens I hope it is some good Schmidt. Maybe we need Schmidt for brains. Then, if we can stop having such Schmidty luck with injuries, we might even make the playoffs....

Can we get Sean Payton and Rob Ryan as our coaches?

i think Keith Smart is the worst coach ever till i know Monty.

39 seconds left, with the ball, down 1 point, and we'd be throwing it in from the Bobcats' side of the court. I said to myself that if we don't take advantage of a 2 for 1 opportunity, that I would be on board for Monty being fired, as I'm sick of all of these blown 2 for 1 opportunities.

And what happens... A shot goes up with 24 seconds left. Now we have to foul since we missed the shot. Game basically over.

Easy to just say Fire a guy, but if we are stuck with him, here is a suggestion for his rotations:

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...tys-rotations/

Some small changes could go a long way IMO. He needs to get out of the 80's and 90's with his philosophies and look at the team Dell has assembled for him and use it properly.

You should send it to Monty.

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Originally Posted by FlyGirl

You should send it to Monty.

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I know Dell reads everything we write. Not so sure about Monty, but hopefully it will get passed down the chain.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Some small changes could go a long way IMO. He needs to get out of the 80's and 90's with his philosophies and look at the team Dell has assembled for him and use it properly.

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I don't see Monty as the adapting type. If I had to put a percentage on this I would say 2%. You?

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Easy to just say Fire a guy, but if we are stuck with him, here is a suggestion for his rotations:

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...tys-rotations/

Some small changes could go a long way IMO. He needs to get out of the 80's and 90's with his philosophies and look at the team Dell has assembled for him and use it properly.

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You lost me at Brian Roberts getting 35 minutes and Austin getting 13.

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Originally Posted by HalfBreed

You lost me at Brian Roberts getting 35 minutes and Austin getting 13.

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Agreed. I don't think Davis needs 39 minutes per game either. Only one player in the league plays that much and it's Melo at 39.1. Just seems excessive. I'd like to at least split Steamer's minutes with Withey, and perhaps shave a couple minutes from Ajinca for Withey as well. Morrow could use a bit more than 13 minutes also. I really like the article though!

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I know Dell reads everything we write. Not so sure about Monty, but hopefully it will get passed down the chain.

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Wait...you're serious?

That's awesome!

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Originally Posted by HalfBreed

You lost me at Brian Roberts getting 35 minutes and Austin getting 13.

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If the goal is to win games, then yes. If the goal is to develop for the future, then I agree the minutes should be different. But, as much as I dislike Roberts, he helps you more right now. When Jrue comes back, its a moot point, though.

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Originally Posted by Soundwave

I don't see Monty as the adapting type. If I had to put a percentage on this I would say 2%. You?

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The thing is, that he might adapt to save his job but I don't think he would ever be fully on board. And if he isn't fully on board, eventually he will resort to his old ways. And I don't think Dell changes course and builds Monty the type of team that he would be good at coaching. So....

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Originally Posted by donato

Agreed. I don't think Davis needs 39 minutes per game either. Only one player in the league plays that much and it's Melo at 39.1. Just seems excessive. I'd like to at least split Steamer's minutes with Withey, and perhaps shave a couple minutes from Ajinca for Withey as well. Morrow could use a bit more than 13 minutes also. I really like the article though!

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He doesn't average 39 mpg does he? Melo actually averages 39 this season. Davis is like at 35-36. How many minutes does Davis need in your opinion?

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Originally Posted by donato

Agreed. I don't think Davis needs 39 minutes per game either. Only one player in the league plays that much and it's Melo at 39.1. Just seems excessive. I'd like to at least split Steamer's minutes with Withey, and perhaps shave a couple minutes from Ajinca for Withey as well. Morrow could use a bit more than 13 minutes also. I really like the article though!

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Garnett averaged 38.9 at the same age and if you take out the lockout season, had averages of 39.3, 40.0, 39.5, 39.2, 40.5, and 39.4 in the next six seasons. If you have a talent like that, and a drop off as big as the Pels do to the next guy, you gotta feed him heavy minutes at this age.

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Originally Posted by FlyGirl

He doesn't average 39 mpg does he? Melo actually averages 39 this season. Davis is like at 35-36. How many minutes does Davis need in your opinion?

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I was referencing MMcN's rotation suggestion of 39.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

Garnett averaged 38.9 at the same age and if you take out the lockout season, had averages of 39.3, 40.0, 39.5, 39.2, 40.5, and 39.4 in the next six seasons. If you have a talent like that, and a drop off as big as the Pels do to the next guy, you gotta feed him heavy minutes at this age.

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Maybe so. I definitely will plead ignorance on positives / negatives of that amount of minutes. Perhaps he should play that much.

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Originally Posted by donato

Maybe so. I definitely will plead ignorance on positives / negatives of that amount of minutes. Perhaps he should play that much.

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And Durant at same age - 39.0 per game. Next season, went up to 39.5. Lowest since rookie season at 38.2 this year, but that is partially because of so many blowouts where he sits the 4th quarter.

Young studs like that should get 38-40.

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Originally Posted by dcoop

The scripture of my 2k my career reads 4/2/14
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bg9KAMwCcAEDnZu.jpg

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:hihi:

But seriously, the guy gotsta go...

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

If the goal is to win games, then yes. If the goal is to develop for the future, then I agree the minutes should be different. But, as much as I dislike Roberts, he helps you more right now. When Jrue comes back, its a moot point, though.

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I'd argue that rivers does everything better than Roberts except in the shooting department. Same as tyreke compared to Gordon debate we had a few weeks ago. If Reke is the better player in that debate then rivers is the better player in this one. Can't work one way and not the other. Sorry I just don't see Roberts getting 35 min being our best way to win. No way no how. For every 2 pts he gets us. He will give up 6 on the other end. His scoring does not over compensate for his atrocious defense. Why do u think he gives us the better chance to win? I'm curious. Cause I think rivers defends MUCH better, he has better vision and can actually thread the needle on some passes when needed. Rivers spot up shooting is not all that bad either. The more I watch him play. The more I'm becoming a believer that this kid can and will be a starter for us one day in 3-4 years. I think he's gonna take a little longer than most rookies to get to that level but I truly believe he will get to a high level one day. He does have his moments where u wonder what he was thinking but that goes back to where I think it's just taking him a little longer to get it than most, but with that said. I say he is still a better option than Roberts at running the point at this very moment. Roberts on the other hand? I'm sorry but all he does is pound the air out the ball and has horrible vision. He misses pass after pass. I mean it was so bad the other night. I remember the entire arena screaming at him to make the wide open pass that he did make but not until the arena put him on notice. It was pretty embarrassing actually. He is a silky smooth spot up shooter and is pretty decent at the dribble pull up as well. Everything else tho...meh. He is not a pg in no way shape or form. He is a 2 guard and Monty is playing him out of position. IMO.

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I'm on board.

Fire Monty.

The second this season ends, fire him and conduct an extensive search. First three guys I call are Shaka Smart, Fred Hoiberg, and David Fizdale. Pick the best one and let's move on.

Why was Roberts on Wall after the timeout coach?
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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I'm on board.

Fire Monty.

The second this season ends, fire him and conduct an extensive search. First three guys I call are Shaka Smart, Fred Hoiberg, and David Fizdale. Pick the best one and let's move on.

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This is huge to hear you say this. Cant wait to hear you and Mr. Ryan thoughts on the next Podcast.

Leaving ROBERTS in to Cover Wall on last possession broke this camel's back ! JUST A TERIBLE DISPLAY OF SITUATIONAL COACHING ! um, I dont think EVANS had went to the locker room yet, heh ! PUTRID

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

I'm on board.

Fire Monty.

The second this season ends, fire him and conduct an extensive search. First three guys I call are Shaka Smart, Fred Hoiberg, and David Fizdale. Pick the best one and let's move on.

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Shaka smart, stan van gundy, Jeff van gundy, George Karl, John calipari, and George Marshall.

At the end of the half, we made MULTIPLE substitutions to fit the situation. However, in an endgame situation he leaves on of the worst on ball defenders on the floor with AR25 & 'Reke on the bench. No words and no explanation other than this being an game coating mistake. Unbelievable, and I too am starting to turn.

I'm on board. Tonight was too much. Fire Monty.

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Originally Posted by MichaelMcNamara

The thing is, that he might adapt to save his job but I don't think he would ever be fully on board. And if he isn't fully on board, eventually he will resort to his old ways. And I don't think Dell changes course and builds Monty the type of team that he would be good at coaching. So....

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This I agree with! Dell brought in Jrue, Morrow, and Evans who are great players for a fast pace offense with AD (who is a big man that can run the court). Monty on the other hand wants a half court offense with Brian Roberts walking the ball down the court.

Never thought I'd see some of you in this thread...

#Monty4prez

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Wait...you're serious?

That's awesome!

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Everything they write at BSS, not every stupid post we make I am sure.

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Originally Posted by dcoop

Never thought I'd see some of you in this thread...

#Monty4prez

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It's nice to see people catching on.