Game Thread: Warriors @ Hornets

Don't look now, but Harris is showing flashes of being an end of bench guy! He may be able to beat out the esteemed Henry Xavier at the swingman position.

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Ryno getting his shot back.

Harris! I like it!

Who is this Harris guy and can we get more of that defensive hustle?

The defense gets so much better when Harris and Amundson are in. Not surprised hugely, T-rel has always been a great defender and Lou hustles.

Wish I could watch. But St Louis don't show this game.

Gotta like Amunson Hard worker

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Originally Posted by Eman5805

Wish I could watch. But St Louis don't show this game.

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TBH, you aren't missing very much. It's a pretty boring game.

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Jack almost taking our franchise player out for a year.

Damn, Davis just ran the **** over Jack on that fast break. Wonder if it was revenge for the foul on the previous oop attempt.

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No foul on Amundsen

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Originally Posted by Kibner

Damn, Davis just ran the **** over Jack on that fast break. Wonder if it was revenge for the foul on the previous oop attempt.

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Saw that then he just stepped over him and tipped the miss back in. Nice way to get him back.

This defensive philosophy needs to be dumped this off-season. This much help and switching will NEVER work.

If Davis doesn't pan out to be a center and Gordon doesn't do his thing, the Anderson signing won't look so good. He's really a number 3 option at best.

god damn Davis... pump fakes still?

Vasquez waving people off? WTF DUDE!

This team is so hard to watch. This board deserves a "5 reasons why not to watch the Hornets" thread.

Well David, why do they run an iso offense with no iso players? Anyone got the nads to ask Monty?

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

This team is so hard to watch. This board deserves a "5 reasons why not to watch the Hornets" thread.

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More self-loathing is definitely not something we need more of on this board.

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Good news. Monty letting Davis play on bogut and lee but he is getting crushed.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Well David, why do they run an iso offense with no iso players? Anyone got the nads to ask Monty?

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Because our players are even worse at settings screens and utulizing other off-ball movement.

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Originally Posted by Shelbywmccarty

Good news. Monty letting Davis play on bogut and lee but he is getting crushed.

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Great he needs the experience. Bumps and bruises now, success later.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

Because our players are even worse at settings screens and utulizing other off-ball movement.

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If you don't coach it and practice it how can you expect your players to be good at it?

So done with this style of defense. Please show me a contender that runs this defense.

i wouldnt say crushed, him and lee have the exact same stat line

well not anymore...

Oh come on and get this crap over with. Don't call anymore timeouts.

I'm sick of seeing two Hornets players chasing one non all-star opponent. Then it's way out on the perimeter.

Xavier Henry can't even get in during garbage time lol

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Originally Posted by Inner_GI

So done with this style of defense. Please show me a contender that runs this defense.

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Miami.

And I'm sure Monty practices off-ball stuff with our guys. But practice doesn't mean they will be good at it. I bet Aminu shoots a thousand jumpers every day, but he is still terrible at it.

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Originally Posted by Kibner

Because our players are even worse at settings screens and utulizing other off-ball movement.

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I've been saying this all year. They haven't gotten any better. Coach not riding their *** for failure to do so.

Tank picture time.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

I'm sick of seeing two Hornets players chasing one non all-star opponent. Then it's way out on the perimeter.

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You might as well stop watching then cuz that's what we do. :hihi:

In other news.... Boston is trying hard to break the Heat's win streak. Will they accomplish it?

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Miami.

And I'm sure Monty practices off-ball stuff with our guys. But practice doesn't mean they will be good at it. I bet Aminu shoots a thousand jumpers every day, but he is still terrible at it.

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Aminu can practice that broken jumper for 1,000 years and still be terrible. Just like this defense, it's structurally broken to begin with. The offense they run doesn't fit the personnel either.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Aminu can practice that broken jumper for 1,000 years and still be terrible. Just like this defense, it's structurally broken to begin with. The offense they run doesn't fit the personnel either.

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Wait, we run an offense?

Every defense is structurally broken when you put guys like Vasquez, Lopez, Mason, etc etc etc on the court.

Aside from Anthony Davis (and maybe AFA)... who on our team actually plays "defense"? Maybe Gordon but he was off tonight.

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Originally Posted by luckyman

Aminu can practice that broken jumper for 1,000 years and still be terrible. Just like this defense, it's structurally broken to begin with. The offense they run doesn't fit the personnel either.

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What kind of offense do you suggest when we don't have multiple guys who are multi-faceted on offense and no one who can free themselves or others up?

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Originally Posted by DroopyDawg

Aside from Anthony Davis... who on our team actually plays "defense"? Maybe Gordon but he was off tonight.

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Aminu, when he doesn't have mental lapses. Lopez, but he is slow. Miller, but he fouls too much. Etc. Etc.

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I guarantee Aminu, Lopez and Henry will NOT be brought back. I want them off the team so bad. At the same time, I feel sorry for Xavier. The dude can't even get in during garbage time and he's been here 2 years. Smh......:nopity:

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Originally Posted by AD23forMVP

Every defense is structurally broken when you put guys like Vasquez, Lopez, Mason, etc etc etc on the court.

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I agree. Its more about the talent. Outside of Davis and Aminu, most of the guys are below average defensively.

Fact is, this team needs Davis to develop into a 5, a healthy Gordon, Rivers developing, and hitting a home run in next year's draft. That's alot of ifs.

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What kind of offense do you suggest when we don't have multiple guys who are multi-faceted on offense and no one who can free themselves or others up?

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Very fast paced and find the first good open shot. This team is dreadful in a half court setting.

Jeff green about to beat Miami by himself lol.43 pts in the 4th

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What kind of offense do you suggest when we don't have multiple guys who are multi-faceted on offense and no one who can free themselves or others up?

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The point of setting multiple picks and constant movement is to free up players who otherwise can't do it themselves. I'd take my chances with that long before I ask said players to run iso with 5 seconds on the shot clock. I'm sick of hearing that guy yell "threeeeee". GV should not be dribbling the air out of the ball so much.

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Originally Posted by Pelicans78

Very fast paced and find the first good open shot. This team is dreadful in a half court setting.

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But we can't jump shoot well and it would just lead to fast break runouts which we are even worse at on defense.

E: we also lack the ball handlers to play that fast

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Originally Posted by luckyman

The point of setting multiple picks and constant movement is to free up players who otherwise can't do it themselves. I'd take my chances with that long before I ask said players to run iso with 5 seconds on the shot clock. I'm sick of hearing that guy yell "threeeeee".

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Yes, but our screens are terrible and create no separation. Lopez is the only one that sets good screens but we don't want him in the game for a multitude of other reasons.

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Setting screens are fundamental and falls on the coaching. As much as we think they suck these are still NBA players not AAU.

We need an infusion of talent before anybody is gonna take us seriously.

We have a decent PG that can score and assist but is too slow to guard 90% of the PGs in the NBA.
We have a "could be elite" SG that doesn't get enough shots because his PG shoots too much.
We have a SF that can't score, but CAN defend sometimes.
We have a young budding super star at the 4 that rolls to the basket for nothing because his PGs are pounding the rock up top.
We have a 5 that was a solid contributor but now is nowhere to be found.
Our bench has 2 NBA players and a bunch of D-leaguers.

We're not supposed to win many games with this roster. I'm not sure what some folks' expectations are but apparently they're too high for some.

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Setting screens are fundamental and falls on the coaching. As much as we think they suck these are still NBA players not AAU.

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Anderson isn't quick enough to roll or pop off the screen and Davis hasn't learned how to use his size or doesn't have the strength to set a strong one. Lopez isn't quick but uses his huge frame well.

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Lopez would be leagues better in the PnR if his hands weren't made of hard rubber that causes balls to careen wildly out of bounds when he receives anything other than the softest passes.

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Wow...Miami just went up 1 with 2min to go...awesome game going on espn rt now