Pelicans to meet with Tyreke Evans (offer has been made)

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

He didn't. The PER backs that up. But it also says that he wasn't any good defending power fowards, which I agree with as well.

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PER is a made up statistic that has it's flaws just like every other stat in a certain context. It's great for evaluating 2 players with similar skill sets, but saying how much PER per game someone gave up, come on now.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

It's looking like AFA may be back; just makes sense and he's gotten no FA buzz yet (even though his tier is usually later).

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Aminu's best chance of staying on the floor in the NBA is playing in a faced pace lineup with enough shooters to space the floor for him. His ideal frontcourt partner is Anderson, who has the offensive skillset of a sharpshoting wing but lacks skills to defend the perimiter. Aminu is his exact contrast, having the offensive skillset of a reboudning, put-back bigman but better suited at defending the perimter.

Offensively, Anderson would play the "3" and Aminu would play the "4."

Defensively, Anderson would play the "4" and Aminu would play the "3."

Combine that with a mobile bigman like Smith who is kinda a middle ground to both of their skillsets, and you have the makings of a great rotation of the two.

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Originally Posted by greewe

I'm guessing there's a Gordon-for-Deng swap on the table. I'd be pleased if we could roll into opening day with the following:

Holiday/Roberts/Jackson
Evans/Rivers
Deng/Budinger OR Copeland/Miller
Davis/Anderson/Thomas
Lopez/Smith

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Good call, I was just thinking of this mutual trade as probably the best we can get for Gordon at this point and Deng fits the SF need and provides that veteran leadership that people talk about with the Iguodala option.

Even after the signing and trade, I think Kevin Martin would still be a great affordable option if he would agree to come off the bench in a 6th man role. He's a lights-out 3-pt. shooter, and Pels need a second reliable specialist other than Anderson. Maybe a S&T with Lopez could clear up some cap room for it, and Thunder could use a capable 7ft. Center in Lopez. Re-sign ol' boy Aminu for a better-suited back-up energy PF/SF; and maybe a cheap 3rd string C option.

Davis/ Smith/ Amundson
Anderson/ Aminu
Deng/ Miller/ Athlete
Evans/ Martin/ Mason Jr.
Holiday/ Rivers/ Jackson

I don't think the Kings will let him go for the price the reports are coming out with.

Here's the deal, we have an owner in place who wants to win not in the future, but now. He's up there in age and would like to see his NBA team become as successful as his NFL one has. He's going to spend some money doing it.

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

If he averages 30+ mpg that means we will be paying Gordon 14 million to average 18- mpg...........me not like that idea. I'd rather trade gordon.

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I think you are missing the concept that we're signing him as a SF. We would sign a cheap SF to start (maybe bring back Aminu), then bring Evans off the bench at the 3. He'd also play the 3 for us during crunch time at the end of games (last 5 minutes or so).

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Originally Posted by tyler

What happened to jrue???

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attaboy tyler!

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Loomis has been terrible with the saints lately

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Say what?

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

PER is a made up statistic that has it's flaws just like every other stat in a certain contest. It's great for evaluating 2 players with similar skill sets, but saying how much PER per game someone gave up, come on now.

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Most used lineup with Davis @ PF gave up 1.08 PPP
Most used lineup with Davis @ C gave up 1.08 PPP

is that better?

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Originally Posted by tyler

What happened to jrue???

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You're right... I forgot about him. He'll definitely get his 30+ minutes... that's for sure. The main point being that whoever gets the nod at the 3 will be playing less minutes than Lopez... almost like a true 6th man minutes somewhere around 15-18 per game. Lopez could also see a solid 5 minute cut from the 28-30 he was averaging to almost under 25. Which is still good.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Hope Aldridge is wrong. He is also the one who reported that NBA sources confirmed we sent Noel to Philly for Holiday, Philly's 2014 1st rounder (1-3 protected) and Phily's 2013 1st rounder (#11 overall).

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We've been on the same page all day. I was JUST about to post this. I totally agree - I definitely don't trust Aldridge's "sources."

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
The New Orleans Pelicans' offer sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years and $48 million, according to @sam_amick. Wow.

WHAT THE **** MAKE IT STOP

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I think you are missing the concept that we're signing him as a SF. We would sign a cheap SF to start (maybe bring back Aminu), then bring Evans off the bench at the 3. He'd also play the 3 for us during crunch time at the end of games (last 5 minutes or so).

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HE SAID HE DOES'T WANT TO BE A SF

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Originally Posted by nolaslim213

I think you are missing the concept that we're signing him as a SF. We would sign a cheap SF to start (maybe bring back Aminu), then bring Evans off the bench at the 3. He'd also play the 3 for us during crunch time at the end of games (last 5 minutes or so).

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Well I was operating under the assumption that he (or his agent) said that he would not sign with any team that plans on using him primarily as a SF. That notion as since been corrected. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by BallSoHard

Loomis has been terrible with the saints lately; why does everyone slurp this dude?

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Lol he is really good at scouting acl tears

STOP THE TWEETS BEFORE ITS MAX BEE!

Yeah I'll just stop reading until the 10th....lol

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Originally Posted by tyler

HE SAID HE DOES'T WANT TO BE A SF

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Where?

4/48 is insanity. Pure insanity.

They are moving Gordon. No ifs ands or buts about it.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
The New Orleans Pelicans' offer sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years and $48 million, according to @sam_amick. Wow.

WHAT THE **** MAKE IT STOP

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Lmao, it's getting higher and higher...

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
The New Orleans Pelicans' offer sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years and $48 million, according to @sam_amick. Wow.

WHAT THE **** MAKE IT STOP

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Lol what the heck is happening, somebody shut down the Internet

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
The New Orleans Pelicans' offer sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years and $48 million, according to @sam_amick. Wow.

WHAT THE **** MAKE IT STOP

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Thats insane. Now $44mil looks a WHOLE lot better.

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Originally Posted by tyler

HE SAID HE DOES'T WANT TO BE A SF

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Originally Posted by RaisingTheBar

Well I was operating under the assumption that he (or his agent) said that he would not sign with any team that plans on using him primarily as a SF. That notion as since been corrected. Carry on.

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Wasn't that tweeted out by some no-name beat writer with 0 credibility?

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Most used lineup with Davis @ PF gave up 1.08 PPP
Most used lineup with Davis @ C gave up 1.08 PPP

is that better?

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Well what I guess I am failing to see is that you said defensively Davis was better at center than PF. This is saying per possession they were equal. Which one of these stats that tries to prove your point am I supposed to believe. Again I watched the game and it was my opinion that Davis struggled when he was defending starting caliber centers.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
The New Orleans Pelicans' offer sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years and $48 million, according to @sam_amick. Wow.

WHAT THE **** MAKE IT STOP

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Absolutely ridiculous if true. Maybe it took Tyreke this long to agree to it because he was too busy laughing at the offer thinking it was a joke. Hopefully this is not true. If it is, I am getting concerned that Demps may need Stern to slap him back to reality again.

Now it's $48 million?!

I'm not sure if I believe it's that much. If it was, he would have agreed then and there. I think 44 is the max we offer him.

Seems like no one really knows.

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Originally Posted by Bee-Fense

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA 1m
The New Orleans Pelicans' offer sheet to Tyreke Evans is four years and $48 million, according to @sam_amick. Wow.

WHAT THE **** MAKE IT STOP

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No!!!!!!!!!! Lolol

Here's a recently published article saying it's 4 years/$40 million, and he's coming off the bench at SF.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Absolutely ridiculous if true. Maybe it took Tyreke this long to agree to it because he was too busy laughing at the offer thinking it was a joke. Hopefully this is not true. If it is, I am getting concerned that Demps may need Stern to slap him back to reality again.

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God help us if we are giving Tyreke Evans 48 million. I was upset with 4/40, now I'm PISSED at 4/48. Dell has lost his mind

I wonder if they can trade Gordon cleanly to a team with the cap space and maybe sign all 3 of Evans, Iggy and Budinger.

You could play Budinger basically whenever any of Jrue, Iggy or Evans sit because all 3 can defend 1-3 in stretches and handle the ball.

Would solve a lot of floor spacing issues. Budinger in that role essentially becomes our real 6th man (since I consider RYNO more of a "starter" since he plays more than Lopez).

Maybe his agent is leaking the numbers to drive up other offers... IDK

Why did my professor assign a test during the first two days of free agency.

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Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN

Absolutely ridiculous if true. Maybe it took Tyreke this long to agree to it because he was too busy laughing at the offer thinking it was a joke. Hopefully this is not true. If it is, I am getting concerned that Demps may need Stern to slap him back to reality again.

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I really can't see Dell going that high, especially with Loomis looking over his shoulder. Loomis is famous for setting a number and not budging. I'm more than sure he is preaching this approach to Dell right now.

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Originally Posted by GeauxPelicans

God help us if we are giving Tyreke Evans 48 million. I was upset with 4/40, now I'm PISSED at 4/48. Dell has lost his mind

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His numbers last season were pretty good. If he signed him a year ago to this, then I'd be with you.

48 does seem extreme.

Hopefully we have a deal lined up with a cost-effective SF.

That's a ton and is overpaying, but I don't mind it.

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We need to stop outbidding ourselves... Who the **** has that much capspace that is interested in him?

:clap::biglol::hihi::rotfl::lol:

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Originally Posted by jcamp5

Maybe his agent is leaking the numbers to drive up other offers... IDK

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Agreed.

If the offer is actually 4 yrs 48 million it's time to get a new GM

rotoworld is saying 4 years 44 mil

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

We need to stop outbidding ourselves... Who the **** has that much capspace that is interested in him?

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All the teams that are bringing him in including his current team who can match the contract. Since he's a RFA, this has to be a strategic offer. Has to be more than what other teams will offers including Sacramento.

I absolutely would mind. That's an absurd price for Evans, absolutely ridiculous.


I thought 4/40 was a little high, but I would be ok with. I would not be ok with this offer. I hope those numbers are incorrect.

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Originally Posted by JJackisangry

We need to stop outbidding ourselves... Who the **** has that much capspace that is interested in him?

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Pistons, I guess.

At USAT: Tyreke Evans may be heading to New Orleans after Pelicans offer four-year, $44 mil deal - http://t.co/lNO6AmCI1G

— Sam Amick (@sam_amick) July 1, 2013

Man twitter is killing the Pelicans for offering Evans 10+ mil a year. The "general" public seemed to like the addition of Jrue.

how is 11 million for a 23 year old guard who is capable of 20-6-5 too much?

I want Evans... The price is a frightening factor though