Andre Iguodala opts out

[GeauxPelicans]

Why not? He could help out the young guys and fill in at small forward until we get the right guy. He's looked good so far and is an excellent passer. I'd rather him for $1 million than Iguodala for $15 million.

LOL. I'm speechless. This isn't 2005. Since when has he get been a veteran leader? Dude had never even been out if the 1st round of the playoffs until this year with the Spurs. No thanks.

[GuardianAngel25]

Im with Mac on this if it came down to it and he was gonna get paid that much $ for us to get him I say do it. I don't see us getting anybody better in the years on his contract and to think he is old is so stupid. If anything he is only going to get better and better by learning from the best in team USA. Iggy might turn the corner and be a dominant scorer with a great shot for remainder of his career. What I saw in the playoffs was potential to be a 20 ppg a night scorer easily while shooting 40%.

[GeauxPelicans]

what does then?
you have to quantify his "impact" in some manner

the easy way is wins...
denver got better, philly got worse
but...was it iggy?

now here's a didyaknow:
iguodala's WS and WS/48 last year were career lows, by far

Could b age, or it could b he was playing out of position (he played the 2 alot last season) and on a fast pace team for the first time in his career?

[Eman5805]

LOL. I'm speechless. This isn't 2005. Since when has he get been a veteran leader? Dude had never even been out if the 1st round of the playoffs until this year with the Spurs. No thanks.

We should pick up Adam Morrison then. He won a title with the Lakers.

[kclaboy504]

We should pick up Adam Morrison then. He won a title with the Lakers.

[PowerPel]

We maybe competing with Dallas for Iggy if Dallas loses the CPME/Dhoward sweepstakes.

[Shelbywmccarty]

Harrison is not below-average

Yes that was a dumb statement. He is going to be good. Could see it at end of playoffs.

[jsl05]

Yes that was a dumb statement. He is going to be good. Could see it at end of playoffs.

He wasn't good until the playoffs.

Average means like the 15th best small forward. I don't think he's better than 15th best.

[Trell]

Lol..I would never get any of you guys as my GM if you wouldn't pick up Iggy when he's needed on this team. With him we are a playoff team. This guy will help us get to the playoffs while our young group grow, guys like Rivers, Ad and whatever rookie being brought in. That's how guys like Duncan, Parker and rondo succeeded. If we keep on losing we will stay with high picks, leading to raw rookies drafted with them high picks and keep waiting for them to develop and pushing our break out season back. Why can't we make that jump now with Iggy? Perfect fit, I just hope it gets done so some can just deal with it.

[Big Fan]

I would give Iggy the contract to help build the culture and show AD we are serious about building a winner. Our real window will be in AD's second contract, but we gotta get him to sign it first

YES.
plus it helps fill the seats and build up the fan base.
And the winning - even though no championships are won - helps bring in better free agents in phase 2 of the AD era.

Building for the long term means realizing that players come and go.

[Tomdda]

If Andre Iguodala can play small forward at 6'6" 207, why can't Tyreke Evans play the position at 6'6" 220?

Iggy: age 29, 6'11" wingspan & 8'9.25" reach
Career stats: 15.1 ppg, 5.8 rpg, 4.9 apg, 1.8 spg

Tyreke: age 23, 6'11.25" wingspan & 8'8" reach
Career stats: 17.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.4 spg

I think they look pretty similar stat wise with Tyreke scoring more and Iggy rebounding more. Tyreke mostly played guard, so by moving to small forward his rebounding numbers would likely increase. I would rather add the younger player with room to improve instead of an older player that will not improve much if at all.

You make an interesting (and compelling) proposition, but I don't know enough about basketball to give reasons why it wouldn't work. But I will say this; Monty seems to be enamored with length. He had a 6'6" PG and a 6'9" SF starting for him last season. Not that they were great players and they seemed to be the best options given the other players on the roster. On the other hand, GV did play some at the 3 at the end of the season, so maybe you're onto something.

[Pelicans78]

After the season Iggy had last year, he's not worth a huge contract. He was average last season outside of the playoff series against the Warriors. Didn't shoot well from the arc, awful FT shooter and overall his defense wasn't up to his usual standards. Now he's gonna be 30 when the season starts and he deserves a big time contract of 11+ million? I don't think so, especially when athleticism is a huge part of his success and that's not getting any better. If he can regain his form from the previous season then he is worth a big contract, but he won't put the team over the top. If Gordon isn't healthy, then signing someone like Iggy is useless.

[AD23forMVP]

I'd rather Martell Webster honestly.

[Pelicans78]

I'd rather Martell Webster honestly.

Me too. Cheaper, younger, can flat out shoot and a good fit.

To get max out of Ryno, the SF and SG need to be able to hit 3's as well. Having a SF who can't shoot makes it easy to cheat on Ryno from beyond the arc.

[da ThRONe]

If we are trying to win as many games as possible as soon as possible signing Iggy makes sense. I prefer to take more time plus I think Iggy will be far too expensive.

[Pelicans78]

If we are trying to win as many games as possible as soon as possible signing Iggy makes sense. I prefer to take more time plus I think Iggy will be far too expensive.

Iggy will help us win games in the short term, but long-term doesn't do anything for me.

[tyler]

He wasn't good until the playoffs.

Average means like the 15th best small forward. I don't think he's better than 15th best.

The dude is nice... maybe a lil stiff but is still nice

[tyler]

To win championships we can't be cheap... And if we can't get Iggy who else do you think would want to play here

[da ThRONe]

Iggy will help us win games in the short term, but long-term doesn't do anything for me.

I agree. I don't want quick minimal success I want big time sustainable success. To me that comes with long term patience and planning.

[Pelicans78]

To win championships we can't be cheap... And if we can't get Iggy who else do you think would want to play here

Any decent SF who wants start in the NBA. Not hard to upgrade that position on this team. Quit being self-defeating.

[da ThRONe]

To win championships we can't be cheap... And if we can't get Iggy who else do you think would want to play here

And as a small market we can't be frivolously either.

[Pelicans78]

And as a small market we can't be frivolously either.

I agree. We should have learned our lesson at the Peja signing. He filled a big need at the time but at what cost? I wouldn't mind signing Iggy to 8-9 million a season, but that's it. We still don't have an established core yet. Davis is developing and Gordon is unreliable right now.

[da ThRONe]

I agree. We should have learned our lesson at the Peja signing. He filled a big need at the time but at what cost? I wouldn't mind signing Iggy to 8-9 million a season, but that's it. We still don't have an established core yet. Davis is developing and Gordon is unreliable right now.

I think this is the main thing I see people seem to ignore about this team. Outside of Davis you have any consistency about our core. Honestly we still don't know what Davis will or won't be. The next guy I see spoken about as part of our core is Anderson and I've seen several fans (me included) that for the right trade would deal Anderson.

I agree if we can get Iguodala for around that price I'm all in but an 8 figure a year deal just seems too much for a team with so many question marks.

[NMThreeMVP]

I think this is the main thing I see people seem to ignore about this team. Outside of Davis you have any consistency about our core. Honestly we still don't know what Davis will or won't be. The next guy I see spoken about as part of our core is Anderson and I've seen several fans (me included) that for the right trade would deal Anderson.

I agree if we can get Iguodala for around that price I'm all in but an 8 figure a year deal just seems too much for a team with so many question marks.

Iguodala will make everyone of the young guys better and help establish a winning culture.

The OKC model for building a team was luck. The Miami model requires a beach, Cubans, and an established star.

You have to believe the Spurs model is what we're following, and Duncan benefitted a ton from vets and the establishment of a winning culture early in his career. Winning is something you learn how to do from winners.

How does this young team develop that if they don't bring in the right vets that can lead and give them a realist playoff goal to compete for every year?

Tis is my biggest problem with Gordon (other than injuries). At $15m a year he's not a leader and doesn't establish culture.

I'd give Iggy whatever it takes. Iggy, Gordon, and Ryno will all create cap space when they expire for us to build around AD and the other young guys when the championship window really opens up. But over the next 3 years, the young guys need to learn what it means to play meaningful spring basketball, competing for a spot in the playoffs.

[Trell]

I agree. We should have learned our lesson at the Peja signing. He filled a big need at the time but at what cost? I wouldn't mind signing Iggy to 8-9 million a season, but that's it. We still don't have an established core yet. Davis is developing and Gordon is unreliable right now.

??? Peja <<<< Iggy ... This is no comparison, Peja was nothing be a good jump shooter who definitely received to much money for his skills. Iggy is an all around guy who does everything. C'mon man it would be great to sign him for 8-9 million but that's unrealistic, it'll be a surprise if he accepts an offer that cheap.