Pelican draft workouts

[Snarly]

he already did opt out, he is a free agent

That's impossible.

[HornetGuru]

That's impossible.

Last week he stated that he will be opting out, maybe he didn't on paper yet but he himself said he is

[Snarly]

Last week he stated that he will be opting out, maybe he didn't on paper yet but he himself said he is

Then that makes your statement false.

[HornetGuru]

Then that makes your statement false.

This is true, regardless he will be a free agent next season

[MonsterMash]

This draft has the best chance of any draft since 2000 to have the fewest impact players. It may end up with a lot of rotation players, but not many difference makers.

Depends on your definition of difference makers. I see little difference between this year and most, aside from the lack of a clearcut top 2. Which is important to grading the class, but irrelevant to us at 6.

[Kibner]

Depends on your definition of difference makers. I see little difference between this year and most, aside from the lack of a clearcut top 2. Which is important to grading the class, but irrelevant to us at 6.

I gave my definition in a later post.

[Shack1212]

Impact ever. To quantify that a bit, I mean players good enough to make All-Star and/or All-NBA teams. A star player, basically. Obviously, there also don't appear to be any superstars in this draft, which I define as a player being considered underpaid if they receive a max deal.

A starter or rotation player is not an impact player in my eyes. You can pick those up in free agency or with later draft picks (in most drafts) relatively reliably.

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Here's something I say whenever the topic of a bad draft comes up. Something like half the stars in the NBA were not expected to be when drafted. Tony Parker, Marc Gasol, Steph Curry, James Harden, Kevin Love, Rajon Rondo, Brook Lopez, Joakim Noah, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, Brook Lopez are all-star caliber players off the top of my head, who weren't drafted with all-star dom in mind.

What it comes down to is that there's two types of stars. There's stars like Rose, Durant, Melo, Griffin, etc. that came into the league expected to be on, then were. Then there's those Curry, George, Noah types who weren't any more highly projected than players picked in similar spots this draft. When a draft is called one without stars, the only thing that's certain is that it lacks the former group. The unpredictable type of star is still very possible. If this draft is full of prospects who take a Harden, Curry, George, Noah, Hibbert, etc. type of path to stardom, it can still be one of the best drafts of the last few decades

Overall the NBA just isn't reliable enough at drafting for the assertion of a bad draft or a good draft before it happens, to mean anything. They're expected to be wrong about half the players and with an error rate that high, it's easily within the margin of error that a bad draft turns into a good draft, like 2009. Put it this way asking the NBA and media to tell you how good a draft is, is like getting a college kid who got 40% on his bio test to tell you what your X-Rays mean, it's just not a trustworthy prognosis

Also I disagree about drafting a starter as not being a big deal. If a team can get Mike Conley, Jr. or Luol Deng out of a draft even if they're not real stars, that improves their future a lot. Not to mention that a young starting caliber player can become a great trade asset, like the LAC pick of Eric Gordon helping them trade for Chris Paul

[Purple Haze]

Monty "...I’m trying to look at it how he (draft prospect) fits in our offense, how he can come off a screen and how he’s going to run this pick and roll."

Seems pretty obvious why Burke is on their radar. Given, he's the only scheduled prospect thus far in the draft; and he fits perfectly in the offense imo. Analyzing Monty's comments, it seems that finding a player that can effectively run the PnR is a major priority. Noone's better at that in the draft than burke

I was about to post just this. Burke come on doooooooooooown.

[PELICANSFAN]

Here's something I say whenever the topic of a bad draft comes up. Something like half the stars in the NBA were not expected to be when drafted. Tony Parker, Marc Gasol, Steph Curry, James Harden, Kevin Love, Rajon Rondo, Brook Lopez, Joakim Noah, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, Brook Lopez are all-star caliber players off the top of my head, who weren't drafted with all-star dom in mind.

What it comes down to is that there's two types of stars. There's stars like Rose, Durant, Melo, Griffin, etc. that came into the league expected to be on, then were. Then there's those Curry, George, Noah types who weren't any more highly projected than players picked in similar spots this draft. When a draft is called one without stars, the only thing that's certain is that it lacks the former group. The unpredictable type of star is still very possible. If this draft is full of prospects who take a Harden, Curry, George, Noah, Hibbert, etc. type of path to stardom, it can still be one of the best drafts of the last few decades

Overall the NBA just isn't reliable enough at drafting for the assertion of a bad draft or a good draft before it happens, to mean anything. They're expected to be wrong about half the players and with an error rate that high, it's easily within the margin of error that a bad draft turns into a good draft, like 2009. Put it this way asking the NBA and media to tell you how good a draft is, is like getting a college kid who got 40% on his bio test to tell you what your X-Rays mean, it's just not a trustworthy prognosis

Also I disagree about drafting a starter as not being a big deal. If a team can get Mike Conley, Jr. or Luol Deng out of a draft even if they're not real stars, that improves their future a lot. Not to mention that a young starting caliber player can become a great trade asset, like the LAC pick of Eric Gordon helping them trade for Chris Paul

Excellent points.

[Eman5805]

That's what makes me salivate most of all. Bring back the Crescent City Connection! Burke to Davis should be just what the doctor ordered. Not to mention that with Davis's burgeoning jumper he can run the pick n pop too.

[Purple Haze]

That's what makes me salivate most of all. Bring back the Crescent City Connection! Burke to Davis should be just what the doctor ordered. Not to mention that with Davis's burgeoning jumper he can run the pick n pop too.

All day long. I envision Burke to Davis being as good or better than Paul to Chandler, and Davis' pick and pop being as effective as West's.

Another in the long list of reasons that I want Burke so badly.

[Davisistheman]

I'm thinking they'll bring back AFA and Darius. Still need a "starter" at the 3 but I can see them bringing those 2 back.

IMO, AFA gets overpaid and walks.

[Mr. West]

Here's something I say whenever the topic of a bad draft comes up. Something like half the stars in the NBA were not expected to be when drafted. Tony Parker, Marc Gasol, Steph Curry, James Harden, Kevin Love, Rajon Rondo, Brook Lopez, Joakim Noah, Paul George, Roy Hibbert, Brook Lopez are all-star caliber players off the top of my head, who weren't drafted with all-star dom in mind.

What it comes down to is that there's two types of stars. There's stars like Rose, Durant, Melo, Griffin, etc. that came into the league expected to be on, then were. Then there's those Curry, George, Noah types who weren't any more highly projected than players picked in similar spots this draft. When a draft is called one without stars, the only thing that's certain is that it lacks the former group. The unpredictable type of star is still very possible. If this draft is full of prospects who take a Harden, Curry, George, Noah, Hibbert, etc. type of path to stardom, it can still be one of the best drafts of the last few decades

Overall the NBA just isn't reliable enough at drafting for the assertion of a bad draft or a good draft before it happens, to mean anything. They're expected to be wrong about half the players and with an error rate that high, it's easily within the margin of error that a bad draft turns into a good draft, like 2009. Put it this way asking the NBA and media to tell you how good a draft is, is like getting a college kid who got 40% on his bio test to tell you what your X-Rays mean, it's just not a trustworthy prognosis

Also I disagree about drafting a starter as not being a big deal. If a team can get Mike Conley, Jr. or Luol Deng out of a draft even if they're not real stars, that improves their future a lot. Not to mention that a young starting caliber player can become a great trade asset, like the LAC pick of Eric Gordon helping them trade for Chris Paul

Very, very solid points here, I have nothing to add except thanks for writing this haha.

[AD23forMVP]

Speaking of workouts:

Jim Eichenhofer @Jim_Eichenhofer
Monty's b-ball camp at Alario Center has begun at 9 a.m. all week, so Pelicans players have been arriving at 7 a.m. to get their workouts in

[kaitos]

Chris Miles ‏@mileswdsu 34m

Team confirms Ben Mclemore will be in New Orleans this weekend for an INTERVIEW not a workout

[Purple Haze]

I guess his agent nixed any further workouts after that "out of shape" deal

[R_Ash]

Chris Miles ‏@mileswdsu 34m

Team confirms Ben Mclemore will be in New Orleans this weekend for an INTERVIEW not a workout

McLemore will be the pick

[RealPelicans Fan]

Pelicans GM Dell Demps is in Washington DC today at a Victor Oladipo workout

— Chris Miles (@mileswdsu) June 21, 2013

[MichaelMcNamara]

McLemore and Oladipo workouts are in response to GM's believing Burke to Orlando at #2 is very, very real. That causes a domino effect that will likely end with one of those SG's still on the board at 6

[Smirk]

If McLemore is there. Wow.

Oladipo...ug.

[Eman5805]

Christ. I don't know which I'd perfer more.

I like Oladipo's ability to make clutch plays. But I also like McLemore's offense, though he doesn't really assert himself.

If Burke goes to Orlando, things will get very, very interesting. It's what's so exciting about this draft. I hope we give KCP a look as well.

[BallSoHard]

If we take mclemore or dipo, Gordon will sulk so hard.

[Smirk]

Gordon can sulk his way to the door if we get McLemore.

[JJackisangry]

Gordon will move to PG... for the Phoenix Suns lol

[donato]

I like Burke but would be much more excited with Oladipo or McLemore.