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    Quote Originally Posted by Smirk View Post

    Second, your other points are only true if you see Burke as having elite level talent.
    Which is of course the real rub here. PF is probably the most saturated position in the league, but I'm sure you, like me, and everyone else was on the Anthony Davis train last year. All depends on how you feel about the player in the end.

    I think Burke is the best player in the draft. Hands down. I would strongly consider Porter over him as I think that's a 10+ year starter at SF(a position lacking serious depth in the league), our weakest position, and a guy that will contribute in many many different ways.

    I would be happy with Len. Very happy.. He's not just your average 7 footer. He's even taller than those guys. He's got good touch, and he's very agile. Working with Monty, I think he could get a ton out of him. And I am ALL for having a cheaper option at center instead of paying some average stiff down the road.

    But a player that will change the culture of the team, that will take the ball and win a basketball game. The difference between winning and losing. I think that's Trey Burke. I've seen enough of him to make most people sick, and he's a special talent.

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    Monty's lack of knowledge about this class is puzzling. He stated after the lottery that he was not up on the players and now he seems just as unprepared. I don't buy that players don't want to work out, as they are working out for other teams. It almost makes me feel that we have every intent on trading this pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Monty's lack of knowledge about this class is puzzling. He stated after the lottery that he was not up on the players and now he seems just as unprepared. I don't buy that players don't want to work out, as they are working out for other teams. It almost makes me feel that we have every intent on trading this pick.
    Not sure how its puzzling... Seems to me, he knows the guys he wants and hes frustrated because they don't wanna workout. For guys who could go #1,2 or 3. It's understandable that they don't wanna work out for Pelicans @ 6 at this juncture. Trey Burke..the guy who needs to establish his floor...is doing so with us (albeit with stipulations) seems to me like we are doing what we can without spinning our wheels or wasting our time. Len and Bennett were probably evaluated with other doctors at the combine... And Like I said, if we need to get KCP, MCW, CJmac and those tier 2 guys in..we can do so at anytime and they will be on the first thing smoking as soon as we call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Monty's lack of knowledge about this class is puzzling. He stated after the lottery that he was not up on the players and now he seems just as unprepared. I don't buy that players don't want to work out, as they are working out for other teams. It almost makes me feel that we have every intent on trading this pick.
    It seems like it's either Burke or a trade is on the horizon....maybe we can move back and take a Euro? Giannis? Or even Saric if he stays in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Monty's lack of knowledge about this class is puzzling. He stated after the lottery that he was not up on the players and now he seems just as unprepared.
    In yesterday's presser he talked about how wide open the draft was.

    We still don't know where we're gonna go yet because it's that kind of draft where they're talking about a guy could be number 1 or he could be 10, I've never seen a draft like that, where a guy could be the 1st pick or he could the 5th pick. It's either he's gonna be 1 or 2. In this draft guys are all over the place. And so you don't know what's going to happen. Draft night should be pretty interesting. I think teams may trade their picks because they just don't understand this draft the way that we did last year.
    http://www.nba.com/pelicans/audio/mo...ssistant-coach

    And he was also quoted in the TP about watching lots of film on prospects.

    Although the Pelicans have not had any predraft workouts, Coach Monty Williams says he’s spent a substantial amount of time watching game tapes of potential draft prospects they are targeting.

    ``I’ve got to look at from a different lens, because I don’t have all the background that (Pelicans General Manager) Dell Demps and his staff might have. I’m trying to look at it how he (draft prospect) fits in our offense, how he can come off a screen and how he’s going to run this pick and roll.

    In their draft evaluations , Williams said they’re always trying to find right fit that blends talent with a players’ ability to fit into his system. The Pelicans have the sixth overall pick in the June 27th NBA draft.
    http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.s...guard_gre.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    Monty's lack of knowledge about this class is puzzling. He stated after the lottery that he was not up on the players and now he seems just as unprepared. I don't buy that players don't want to work out, as they are working out for other teams. It almost makes me feel that we have every intent on trading this pick.
    He's not saying he doesn't know about the players...he's saying he has no idea would will be available when we pick because it is so fluid this year (aka the draft sucks).

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    I'm pretty intrigued with Bennett. He made 74% of his shots at the rim (which seems like a pretty special # ... I think Len was at 63%, and that's considered very good) and shoots the ball well with range. Jumper looks strong, and he's got a good body type to play next to AD ... even if he's not "center", he's got the bulk to handle heavyweights on a lot of nights, freeing up Davis.

    Utah at times had success last season running lineups with all 3 of their bigs. They abandoned ship more or less on that this year, but I'd be interested to see if we could run that lineup with Davis, Anderson and Bennett. Defending the wing would be problematic, of course, but if the other team has a defensive "hiding" spot on the wing it seems like something that could play well. Those2 of those 3 bigs have 3 point shooting range and Davis has a nice jumper, so spacing issues wouldn't be as big of a deal for that team.

    I know the knock on Bennett is that he's just 6'7, but he's a lot bulkier than a Derrick Williams or even a Carl Landry, and he's longer than those guys as well (7'1 wingspan). I think he'll make an impact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smirk View Post
    He's not saying he doesn't know about the players...he's saying he has no idea would will be available when we pick because it is so fluid this year (aka the draft sucks).
    I don't think the draft sucks, aside from not wanting to be one or two. There's no clear cut favorites, but as far as picking where we are, I think the field at six looks pretty good. I think the top tier is just level, no clear cut superstar ... but you never get that at six, (going into it) anyway.
    Last edited by MonsterMash; 06-11-2013 at 01:49 PM.

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    I like Bennett and think he will be a good player, but I do not see us drafting him.

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    Monty "...I’m trying to look at it how he (draft prospect) fits in our offense, how he can come off a screen and how he’s going to run this pick and roll."

    Seems pretty obvious why Burke is on their radar. Given, he's the only scheduled prospect thus far in the draft; and he fits perfectly in the offense imo. Analyzing Monty's comments, it seems that finding a player that can effectively run the PnR is a major priority. Noone's better at that in the draft than burke
    Last edited by RAMIL7; 06-11-2013 at 01:49 PM.

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    Don't know if this was already posted but here are some comments from Monty,


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    Quote Originally Posted by jhow0036 View Post
    I like Bennett and think he will be a good player, but I do not see us drafting him.
    I think he's an underdog for us, to be sure. But he might well be the BPA when we're up, depending on how you feel on Burke or whoever else might fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    Don't know if this was already posted but here are some comments from Monty,


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    "I don't know if people know — I dislocated my pinkie finger. And [Tyreke] told me, 'You wanna go home or you wanna be here?' I want to be here. And he said, 'All right, then go tape it up and let's play. Let's go. We not stoppin' at no stores. Straight gas. That's what we do, just keep going.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSoHard View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAMIL7 View Post
    Monty "...I’m trying to look at it how he (draft prospect) fits in our offense, how he can come off a screen and how he’s going to run this pick and roll."

    Seems pretty obvious why Burke is on their radar. Given, he's the only scheduled prospect thus far in the draft; and he fits perfectly in the offense imo. Analyzing Monty's comments, it seems that finding a player that can effectively run the PnR is a major priority. Noone's better at that in the draft than burke
    Sounds like we should bring Noone in for a workout!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    Sounds like we should bring Noone in for a workout!
    Sounds like we maybe trading down. Monty didn't look to thrilled with what is out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ml wave View Post
    Sounds like we should bring Noone in for a workout!
    That's wasn't what I was implying. Didn't say Burke was the only player they were considering, just judging from his comments I see why their bring him in.

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    Monty definitely wants a vet, I wonder if that is IGGY? Maybe Guru was right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    Monty definitely wants a vet, I wonder if that is IGGY? Maybe Guru was right?
    He will be a FA if he opts out of his player option, so we would not need to give up our draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerPel View Post
    Sounds like we maybe trading down. Monty didn't look to thrilled with what is out there.
    It sounded more like he's frustrated that the top 5 guys aren't coming in. He feels like any one of them can go anywhere from top 5 -top 10. But their agents aren't going to allow them to work out. While I don't think a trade is out of the possibility, I also don't think he's trying to imply that he dislike the class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonsterMash View Post
    I don't think the draft sucks, aside from not wanting to be one or two. There's no clear cut favorites, but as far as picking where we are, I think the field at six looks pretty good. I think the top tier is just level, no clear cut superstar ... but you never get that at six, (going into it) anyway.
    This draft has the best chance of any draft since 2000 to have the fewest impact players. It may end up with a lot of rotation players, but not many difference makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kibner View Post
    This draft has the best chance of any draft since 2000 to have the fewest impact players. It may end up with a lot of rotation players, but not many difference makers.
    You mean impact ever or impact in rookie season? Cause last years draft didn't have a lot of impact either if that's the case. Some guys just take time. There are only a handful of guys in this draft that are NBA ready right now but given time, a lot them could be very good.
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    Looks like you may be right Nola Hornet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GESWhoseBack View Post
    You mean impact ever or impact in rookie season? Cause last years draft didn't have a lot of impact either if that's the case. Some guys just take time. There are only a handful of guys in this draft that are NBA ready right now but given time, a lot them could be very good.
    Impact ever. To quantify that a bit, I mean players good enough to make All-Star and/or All-NBA teams. A star player, basically. Obviously, there also don't appear to be any superstars in this draft, which I define as a player being considered underpaid if they receive a max deal.

    A starter or rotation player is not an impact player in my eyes. You can pick those up in free agency or with later draft picks (in most drafts) relatively reliably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PELICANSFAN View Post
    He will be a FA if he opts out of his player option, so we would not need to give up our draft pick.
    he already did opt out, he is a free agent

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