Pelican draft workouts

[PELICANSFAN]

I had started gathering after reading Chad Ford's, Chris Miles's, and McNamara's tweets. It just makes total sense based on what I've heard Dell and Monty say. Please read the link.

So you are basing this "fact" on Ford answering a chat question that they "could" pick him and Miles (extension of Fletcher who jumps on every international player in every draft in an attempt to look smart) and MM who may or may not have inside information on whether the team will pick him?

[BallSoHard]

So you are basing this "fact" on Ford answering a chat question that they "could" pick him and Miles (extension of Fletcher who jumps on every international player in every draft in an attempt to look smart) and MM who may or may not have inside information on whether the team will pick him?

If you read later in the thread, He concedes the point on his wording.

[jsl05]

And you know all of this how?

I don't. I just have an extremely strong feeling about it.

Chad Ford has said that "scouts who REALLY know Europe don't see much difference between Saric and Porter." Dell would qualify; heck, he played for the team Saric played for. Ford has said that the Pelicans are one of the 2-3 strongest suitors for Saric. Look, that's not all, just a small sample size. Read the link.

From everything I have objectively gathered, I am fairly certain Saric will be the pick.

[HornetGuru]

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...t-dario-saric/

Please read this. It clears up so much. I know that practically none of us have watched a game of his, so we're scared. That's normal. I have no doubt in my mind we are taking him. Monty's and Dell's comments have all come together. Don't be upset when we take Saric.

I really enjoyed that article, thanks.

[HornetGuru]

looks like the only way we don't take Saric is if otto porter, oladipo or mclemore fall, which they won't, we will most likely take saric, allowing us to have 2 combo guards at PG and SG since saric is such a great passer, i expect to see a rivers/gordon or tyreke/gordon or rivers/tyreke backcourt combo with Saric at SF, looks like now all we have to do is package GV and Lopez for a starting center.

[Eman5805]

This is the best video I've seen that shows off Burke's quicks.

A pity he'll only be as good as Jameer Nelson.

At best.

Because that's what a ceiling means. At BEST...

My God, what a funky bunch of comparisons. I've seen Burke called another Vasquez, another Travis Best, and now a poor man's Jameer Nelson.

Edit: I mean, look at what he does at 2:30 to get open, create space. That's an NBA move right there. It's almost exactly like the move Kemba Walker did versus Pittsburgh a couple years ago. And his quickness was never challenged.

[saintsinNO]

A pity he'll only be as good as Jameer Nelson.

At best.

Because that's what a ceiling means. At BEST...

My God, what a funky bunch of comparisons. I've seen Burke called another Vasquez, another Travis Best, and now a poor man's Jameer Nelson.

Agreed. I don't see how anyone who has watched the kid play can say these things. Not quicker or faster than GV??? If GV were Burke's size he couldn't play in the NBDL. Burke is a baller.

GV was guarded by Kendrick Perkins and was contained....PERKINS...KENDRICK PERKINS...and could not beat him.

[PELICANSFAN]

I don't. I just have an extremely strong feeling about it.

Chad Ford has said that "scouts who REALLY know Europe don't see much difference between Saric and Porter." Dell would qualify; heck, he played for the team Saric played for. Ford has said that the Pelicans are one of the 2-3 strongest suitors for Saric. Look, that's not all, just a small sample size. Read the link.

From everything I have objectively gathered, I am fairly certain Saric will be the pick.

Dell played for that team for one season 15 years ago. I think it is a weak argument in the article that he may still have a great relationship with the team.

[jsl05]

Dell played for that team for one season 15 years ago. I think it is a weak argument in the article that he may still have a great relationship with the team.

That's not the point. The point is that he knows that league and actually knows a little about the team.

[Mr. West]

I see this thread has turned into another "this is my favorite prospect we should take him and yours stinks" thread. Anyone who claims to know who we will take on draft night is wrong. You can be 99% sure, but I can't say for 100% sure that we won't take Jeff Withey with the 6th.

[DefensiveMind]

A pity he'll only be as good as Jameer Nelson.

At best.

Because that's what a ceiling means. At BEST...

My God, what a funky bunch of comparisons. I've seen Burke called another Vasquez, another Travis Best, and now a poor man's Jameer Nelson.

Edit: I mean, look at what he does at 2:30 to get open, create space. That's an NBA move right there. It's almost exactly like the move Kemba Walker did versus Pittsburgh a couple years ago. And his quickness was never challenged.

Hey now! I gave you Mark Price... and nobody thinks Kemba Walker is the answer to anything, but people here think Trey Burke is, hence the higher level of scrutiny.

[saintsinNO]

I see this thread has turned into another "this is my favorite prospect we should take him and yours stinks" thread. Anyone who claims to know who we will take on draft night is wrong. You can be 99% sure, but I can't say for 100% sure that we won't take Jeff Withey with the 6th.

I don't think it's so much that, but I would hope everyone could agree that to say Burke's quickness and speed is on par with GV is utterly absurd.

[Purple Haze]

http://www.bourbonstreetshots.com/20...t-dario-saric/

Please read this. It clears up so much. I know that practically none of us have watched a game of his, so we're scared. That's normal. I have no doubt in my mind we are taking him. Monty's and Dell's comments have all come together. Don't be upset when we take Saric.

Thanks for this, great piece.

This

The biggest red flag offensively across all leagues is his three point shooting. Whether it is in tournaments, in national competition, or in regional leagues, Saric hovers between 30 and 34 percent from deep. He takes about two per game and his form looks fine, he is just very inconsistent. And of course, the biggest worry is how will he perform against NBA caliber athletes on the defensive end? There is no real data available to predict that, but I will say that I have seen a lot of readers give the benefit of the doubt to prospects or free agent targets that they like, saying that they believe in Monty’s ability to teach defense and improve their capabilities within a team concept. I noticed far fewer people giving this kid that benefit of the doubt, and I’ve got to say that it feels like there is a lot of Euro bias.

scares he heck out of me though.

[The JNR]

I'm so susceptible. I read that article on BSS and now I want Saric.

[Eman5805]

Hey now! I gave you Mark Price... and nobody thinks Kemba Walker is the answer to anything, but people here think Trey Burke is, hence the higher level of scrutiny.

I think Burke could be special for reasons that have nothing to do with something you can measure or find a stat for.

[JJackisangry]

Saric impresses me most with his rebounding and passing while Burke impresses me with his scoring ability. I've really warmed up to both of these guys.

[Saints Fan in A]

KCP will be the pick, unless McLemore or Porter fall.

[aas3452]

The pels are blowing smoke and the rest of the league believes they'll stick with rivers as their future PG. I dont buy it....Demps is trying to create a bidding war for any of the available players at 6. But If no bites, then I expect the team to pick BPA...even if its another PG.

[Eman5805]

Really warmed up to KCP lately. Like his stroke and how he can pull up from deep. Surprisingly quick and fast for his size. Likes to board. Good defensive potential.

[Purple Haze]

I'm so susceptible. I read that article on BSS and now I want Saric.

Things like this make me warm a bit to him:

Perhaps more important, Saric has the drive to get better. “He’s a workaholic,” a scout said. “He lives in the gym. With his basketball IQ, you’re talking about a kid with All-Star potential.”

[jhow0036]

Hearing Croatia's Dario Saric leaning toward withdrawing from the NBA Draft. Has until Jun 17 to make it official.

— Chad Ford (@chadfordinsider) June 6, 2013

Saric is projected as a lottery pick by most teams.But wants to get another year of experience in Europe.

— Chad Ford (@chadfordinsider) June 6, 2013

[tdcreator]

I don't think for everything we say has to be supported by a quote from Dell or Monty. This is a forumn to discuss your opinions. I don't think they will draft Burke at least not at 6. I totally believe that if one of the big three ain't there (McLemore, Porter, Olidipo) we will trade out of that spot.

My reasoning for no Burke is because Rivers is going to be given a chance to win the spot and I think they would want a veteran to back him up.

I could see them grabbing Saric at 6 if Dell really likes the guy and can't trade down a few to gather more picks or players.

I don't want either Burke or Saric, I want KCP and I'd be willing to pick him at 6. I'd like to trade down a few spots and get him but if that's the player you want and can't make a trade down to their range that you think they should go, then do like the NFL and get him.

But to clarify, if we did select either player or any player (cause I don't care for Len either). I will proudly root for them. Go Pelicans!!

[MonsterMash]

Well if Saric withdraws, the talent pool just shrunk again (between he and Marcus Smart). If they're as lukewarm on Burke as some seem to think, then 6 looks like a rough spot to be picking.

[HornetGuru]

I don't think for everything we say has to be supported by a quote from Dell or Monty. This is a forumn to discuss your opinions. I don't think they will draft Burke at least not at 6. I totally believe that if one of the big three ain't there (McLemore, Porter, Olidipo) we will trade out of that spot.

My reasoning for no Burke is because Rivers is going to be given a chance to win the spot and I think they would want a veteran to back him up.

I could see them grabbing Saric at 6 if Dell really likes the guy and can't trade down a few to gather more picks or players.

I don't want either Burke or Saric, I want KCP and I'd be willing to pick him at 6. I'd like to trade down a few spots and get him but if that's the player you want and can't make a trade down to their range that you think they should go, then do like the NFL and get him.

But to clarify, if we did select either player or any player (cause I don't care for Len either). I will proudly root for them. Go Pelicans!!

u want KCP for SG correct? what would u do with gordon? trade?

[Purple Haze]

I don't think for everything we say has to be supported by a quote from Dell or Monty. This is a forumn to discuss your opinions. I don't think they will draft Burke at least not at 6. I totally believe that if one of the big three ain't there (McLemore, Porter, Olidipo) we will trade out of that spot.

My reasoning for no Burke is because Rivers is going to be given a chance to win the spot and I think they would want a veteran to back him up.

I could see them grabbing Saric at 6 if Dell really likes the guy and can't trade down a few to gather more picks or players.

I don't want either Burke or Saric, I want KCP and I'd be willing to pick him at 6. I'd like to trade down a few spots and get him but if that's the player you want and can't make a trade down to their range that you think they should go, then do like the NFL and get him.

But to clarify, if we did select either player or any player (cause I don't care for Len either). I will proudly root for them. Go Pelicans!!

So really what you mean is, "so Rivers would be given a better chance to win the starting spot", right?